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Re: Shadowsniper's NRG Height World Record
« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2011, 01:58:03 PM »
i dont think that was modded, GJ

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Re: Shadowsniper's NRG Height World Record
« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2011, 10:54:54 PM »
Both bumps are pretty intense, but if you put it that way... 3 feet aren't a big difference eh? Technically it's simply just way too unlikely to get that height there as you defo hadn't the required speed. If youre so damn hooked on the replay speed thing then nevermind that one, so shall I map the bush thing to the LS airport and see if you can get 240 ft again? :lol:

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Re: Shadowsniper's NRG Height World Record
« Reply #47 on: July 28, 2011, 07:27:31 AM »
How the hell would you know if I had the required speed? You haven't tested the bump at different speeds and seen what you get on average, or accounted for the fact that I clearly got the 'perfect bump' off this. As for your point about both bumps being intense, you don't seem to understand the difference the size of an object makes to the bump. For example, tell me how easy it is to get something like 190ft off the SF bridge bump? In case you don't know, you can practically get that every couple of tries. Now although you can get 223ft off the LS airport bump, you can't possibly be trying to tell me you can consistently get height like this off that object, because it generally give you more distance due to it's medium level size (hence my point about the 'perfect bump', nobody would have said you could get this height from that bump until someone actually landed it). The SF bridge bump has almost the same amount of runup as this bush bump (disregarding road bumps), and the bush is larger in height so you can get more vertical from it. It doesn't take a genius to see that you're full of shit man :P

So please explain why are you an 'official SA section mod spotter' again?

I never actually expected to agree with Baseline about something but this is the truth. You and MMM have done fuck all against the actual modding in the SA Unmodded Section, and here you are trying to blind me with bullshit. Please leave me alone :P
« Last Edit: July 28, 2011, 07:36:32 AM by Shadowsniper »

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Re: Shadowsniper's NRG Height World Record
« Reply #48 on: July 28, 2011, 09:18:42 AM »
You mad? There's no need to start insulting :lol:


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How the hell would you know if I had the required speed?

It's technically way too unlikely to gain around 290 km/h on the spot due to that curve as I said couple times before, specially not with road bumps. Acceleration won't stay up while you turn the curve, you even lose speed. The 'more vertical' bumping object won't make it up for it that much.


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As for your point about both bumps being intense, you don't seem to understand the difference the size of an object makes to the bump.

Duh... I know bumps are different. The different bumps just tend to rather give you either distance or height. The LS airport and SF bridge one both can give intense heights and distances.


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For example, tell me how easy it is to get something like 190ft off the SF bridge bump? In case you don't know, you can practically get that every couple of tries.

The object just tends to give you rather some height, landing the naval base with 600+ feet distance can also happen as you are able to reach 290 km/h there. There the required speed is available. Off that one those ~220 ft height are possible aswell.


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The SF bridge bump has almost the same amount of runup as this bush bump (disregarding road bumps), and the bush is larger in height so you can get more vertical from it.

These are the distances from the starts to the bumps
SF bridge bump - ~1900 ft
LS airport bump - ~2250 ft
LS bush bump - 2100ft

Do the SF bridge or the LS airport ones have 3 curves and like 6 road bumps? No, they're plain straight so you can reach those ~300 km/h with some constant acceleration. It's technically not going to happen that you reach the required speed on the bush bump because of that curve and as I said, the object won't make it up that much when you'll only bump at like 265 km/h.


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You and MMM have done fuck all against the actual modding in the SA Unmodded Section, and here you are trying to blind me with bullshit.

Sadly I am not a moderator of that section. I actually would've made some moves in case. MMM is not really active these days, so all I can do currently is reporting stuff to him. Mostly I only speak up when I'm sure about modding related stuff. Just like on here - fact is that you won't get the required speed there.

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Re: Shadowsniper's NRG Height World Record
« Reply #49 on: July 28, 2011, 10:27:06 AM »
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How the hell would you know if I had the required speed?

It's technically way too unlikely to gain around 290 km/h on the spot due to that curve as I said couple times before, specially not with road bumps. Acceleration won't stay up while you turn the curve, you even lose speed. The 'more vertical' bumping object won't make it up for it that much.

Why do you need 290km/h? I don't know whether I reached that level of speed or not, I don't even know the max speed of an NRG since I don't use speedometers, but you can't say you need that exact amount of speed to reach 226ft, if you've never landed it yourself you couldn't possibly know. Even I don't know, I'm sure it's possible with less speed than I had frankly.

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For example, tell me how easy it is to get something like 190ft off the SF bridge bump? In case you don't know, you can practically get that every couple of tries.

The object just tends to give you rather some height, landing the naval base with 600+ feet distance can also happen as you are able to reach 290 km/h there. There the required speed is available. Off that one those ~220 ft height are possible aswell.

Would you agree that you rarely get the distance required to meet the naval base from that bump? That on average you just get lots of height? This is why I'm talking about the concept of getting the 'perfect bump'. Before this bump the maximum I'd had off that bush bump was something like 170ft, that's why I was so shocked that I landed the roof with that much height. I can understand your skepticism because of that, but saying I used speed mods is a load of bullshit, just look at my replay, when you take into account the different replay speed's I will have had around the same speed as you despite a little curb bump at the start (keep in mind the FPS difference between us as well).

Do the SF bridge or the LS airport ones have 3 curves and like 6 road bumps? No, they're plain straight so you can reach those ~300 km/h with some constant acceleration. It's technically not going to happen that you reach the required speed on the bush bump because of that curve and as I said, the object won't make it up that much when you'll only bump at like 265 km/h.

The curves on the road don't matter much at all as long as you drive through them relatively straight like I did so you can keep leaning forward. As for the roadbumps, I hit a little one at the very start of my runup, and after that I hit none of them (which clearly barely affected my speed), I always avoided them by going in and out of my RAD.

Mostly I only speak up when I'm sure about modding related stuff. Just like on here - fact is that you won't get the required speed there.

The fact is you are wrong. The whole notion that I modded this is just retarded, seriously. I was in SA modifying my ENB settings (the settings you see used on my clip) and once I finished them I decided I'd try this stunt for fun, with FL off. As you know, I don't use FL off stunts in any of my videos, I only use FL on, but I do find it fun to do certain stunts with FL off now and then. So right off the bat I never had any reason to actually use this stunt. However, because I got this bump and PRECISELY because I was shocked that it was so high, I posted it. How could I have pre-determined this would happen and decide to use speedmods just so I could make this video? You ask me if I'm mad, no I'm not but I think you'd be pretty pissed off if every time you post a high stunt all you get is senseless debate about it ;)
« Last Edit: July 28, 2011, 10:30:33 AM by Shadowsniper »

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Re: Shadowsniper's NRG Height World Record
« Reply #50 on: July 28, 2011, 10:43:42 AM »
Wow. this discussion is ridiculous... are we going all math on like the most inconsistent game of all time?

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Re: Shadowsniper's NRG Height World Record
« Reply #51 on: July 28, 2011, 12:57:05 PM »
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Why do you need 290km/h? I don't know whether I reached that level of speed or not, I don't even know the max speed of an NRG since I don't use speedometers, but you can't say you need that exact amount of speed to reach 226ft, if you've never landed it yourself you couldn't possibly know. Even I don't know, I'm sure it's possible with less speed than I had frankly.

You simply roughly need around that speed for that height. There are only couple spots in the SA map which offer a bump at ~300 km/h and the LS bush bump isn't one of those. How do you know the curve doesn't affect it much when you don't use any speedo? You can try to pass through the curves relatively straight, but the speed won't raise as it would on a straight line. Concerning that, you won't arrive the bump with that needed speed (dude trust me, I've been using that speedo for years... try it yourself!). And you even said it yourself, your speed probably should've been around the same as mine, but we're both still way below 300 km/h.

So with your logic that bush bump simply gives more powerful bumps at an actual lower speed right (?) - so if it'd be placed on the LS airport for example where we're actually able to gain almost 300 km/h we should be able to fly even higher eh! There's no bump in SA where you get around 220 feet height with a speed like on the LS bush bump. Weirdly everyone who reached around 220 ft did it on a spot where you're indeed able to gain the required speed eh... except you once again, what a surprise! You've modded some stuff in the past and this once again is way too unlikely because of that simple speed issue. Due to the speedo you really can estimate stuff and that's way out of my range. The bumping object simply won't make it up that much.

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Re: Shadowsniper's NRG Height World Record
« Reply #52 on: July 28, 2011, 01:17:12 PM »
Just watched the rep. Your rad wasn't the best and it looks extremely modded, there are some people who think it's clean tho, so gj(on fooling at least) i guess lol  :P

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Re: Shadowsniper's NRG Height World Record
« Reply #53 on: July 28, 2011, 01:26:13 PM »
Oh god everything was much better when ShadowSniper was not here and everything will better if Baseline was not here  :cheernutz:

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Re: Shadowsniper's NRG Height World Record
« Reply #54 on: July 28, 2011, 01:36:14 PM »
226ft is very possible with 270kmph, also this doesn't look suspicious at all to me... Nice one :cc_detective:

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Re: Shadowsniper's NRG Height World Record
« Reply #55 on: July 28, 2011, 04:07:41 PM »
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Why do you need 290km/h? I don't know whether I reached that level of speed or not, I don't even know the max speed of an NRG since I don't use speedometers, but you can't say you need that exact amount of speed to reach 226ft, if you've never landed it yourself you couldn't possibly know. Even I don't know, I'm sure it's possible with less speed than I had frankly.

You simply roughly need around that speed for that height. There are only couple spots in the SA map which offer a bump at ~300 km/h and the LS bush bump isn't one of those. How do you know the curve doesn't affect it much when you don't use any speedo? You can try to pass through the curves relatively straight, but the speed won't raise as it would on a straight line. Concerning that, you won't arrive the bump with that needed speed (dude trust me, I've been using that speedo for years... try it yourself!). And you even said it yourself, your speed probably should've been around the same as mine, but we're both still way below 300 km/h.

So with your logic that bush bump simply gives more powerful bumps at an actual lower speed right (?) - so if it'd be placed on the LS airport for example where we're actually able to gain almost 300 km/h we should be able to fly even higher eh! There's no bump in SA where you get around 220 feet height with a speed like on the LS bush bump. Weirdly everyone who reached around 220 ft did it on a spot where you're indeed able to gain the required speed eh... except you once again, what a surprise! You've modded some stuff in the past and this once again is way too unlikely because of that simple speed issue. Due to the speedo you really can estimate stuff and that's way out of my range. The bumping object simply won't make it up that much.

Of course you'd be able to get higher at LS airport, it's a better runup. As for the rest, we've talked all that bollocks to death now, all I can say is you're wrong. I never intended to try this stunt or break a world record, this was completely random and why the fuck would I use a speedmod for that? Believe what you want, this is clean and the majority of people know that.

PS. to be fair there's pretty much no bump like the bush bump either, given that you can actually bump something almost as tall as your RAD. And also, Rainbow got 230ft off the SF bridge bump (bailed) and it seems like you can get pretty much the exact same speed there as you can on the bush spot, with a bump which isn't as good for height, so don't even lie about the required speed :P
« Last Edit: July 28, 2011, 04:17:02 PM by Shadowsniper »

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Re: Shadowsniper's NRG Height World Record
« Reply #56 on: July 28, 2011, 04:17:41 PM »
I like trains.

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Re: Shadowsniper's NRG Height World Record
« Reply #57 on: July 28, 2011, 04:25:40 PM »
i dont think that was modded, GJ

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Re: Shadowsniper's NRG Height World Record
« Reply #58 on: July 28, 2011, 04:42:56 PM »
I like trains.

w00T wOO... Shit was crazy SS.

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Re: Shadowsniper's NRG Height World Record
« Reply #59 on: July 28, 2011, 05:04:01 PM »
Close this please!

 

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