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Title: Need help
Post by: Kingjad on October 16, 2015, 04:14:19 PM
Hey guys, I need some help deciding something.

I want to play games like Rocket League. Do I buy a PS4, an Xbox One or a gaming laptop? I currently am still rocking with my Xbox 360, and my current PC hasn't got a good enough graphics card to run Rocket League (and since graphics cards can be a bit pricey in themselves, it'd be better probably just to get a brand new modern gaming laptop instead of trying to boost my old PC to meet current standards).

But the Xbox One and the PS4 are probable cheaper alternatives. So feedback would be appreciated folks?

Something to keep in mind is that I'm not actually too active in playing many games, I still have Xbox 360 and I use it only for FIFA 14 and GTA V. If I had a current-gen console, I'd likely get new version of GTA and Rocket League, but that'd probably be about it - laptop option is open to getting older games too.

So feedback would be appreciated guys, your previous King from yesteryear's been very out the loop on such matters and wants to reign supreme in Rocket League (for a game I've never played I know I'd enjoy it haha).
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: bLADE on October 16, 2015, 05:59:42 PM
PS4  :ajaja:
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: PM on October 17, 2015, 03:28:08 AM
I would say that most of GTAS guys moved on to PC in these modern games. So if you also want to play with some of us, it's better if you get a new PC. And for me PC was always more comfortable, I'm not a console guy. I had an old crap PC (20fps in V), made some money, bought a second-hand one for 580€ and now I'm running V in high details at 100fps. A brand new gaming laptop will cost you a fortune, but you will find a great-enough PC at bazaar for sure. :)
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: PawNLighT on October 17, 2015, 10:52:58 AM
I would say that most of GTAS guys moved on to PC in these modern games. So if you also want to play with some of us, it's better if you get a new PC. And for me PC was always more comfortable, I'm not a console guy. I had an old crap PC (20fps in V), made some money, bought a second-hand one for 580� and now I'm running V in high details at 100fps. A brand new gaming laptop will cost you a fortune, but you will find a great-enough PC at bazaar for sure. :)
Your the first guy I've ever heard that bought his pc at a bazaar.
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: NEM on October 17, 2015, 10:56:09 AM
Slovakia is full of surprises :Disgusted:
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: waNEr on October 17, 2015, 11:21:22 AM
PC master race, do not become a peasant  :Disgusted:
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: Rusch69 on October 17, 2015, 06:59:14 PM
waNEr's right actually.

What's your current PC hardware setup? Assuming you could re-use some parts again - upgrading would be my suggestion.
Even though the current gen consoles were released in 2013 (?), they're already waaaaaay behind and rather match a low-mid range desktop.
Laptop devices are also crap from a price/performance perspective. That's only an option if mobility is necessary for you.

A desktop PC is always the bang for the buck solution in my eyes.
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: Kingjad on October 17, 2015, 07:08:01 PM
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Title: Re: Need help
Post by: morbidxxx on October 17, 2015, 07:27:40 PM
I have almost the same setup only with GTX 550 Ti and I even can run V on medium settings. I guess upgrading graphics card would be cheaper, but nothing can beat laying down on a couch and playing ps4  :P
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: Kingjad on October 17, 2015, 07:52:46 PM
What graphics card would be good to get though? Aren't the good ones +£100?
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: Rusch69 on October 17, 2015, 08:29:58 PM
What's your budget? (in € if possible)

Your rig is outdated and the CPU would possibly be a bottleneck in some cases. Most games are rather GPU intensive tho. Are you running DDR2 or DDR3 RAM (the LGA775 socket supports both - depends on your mainboard)?
However, there's also useful GPUs that still can be paired with it.

A GPU + RAM upgrade is an option, assuming low visuals will be fine to you. Consoles won't look any better anyway. Especially used components could make a great bargain.

Personally I'd go with a reliable low/mid tier PC instead of a console any day of the week. You could still use an Xbox 360 controller for FIFA or V without issues if you want a console alike experience.

The Wattage of your power supply could also be an important factor for choosing a proper GPU in order to keep costs low.





This answer + correction took me way too much, too drunk for this shit atm. :lol:
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: Lex on October 17, 2015, 09:59:41 PM
This answer + correction took me way too much, too drunk for this shit atm. :lol:

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: Kingjad on October 18, 2015, 04:58:40 AM
Are you running DDR2 or DDR3 RAM (the LGA775 socket supports both - depends on your mainboard)?
However, there's also useful GPUs that still can be paired with it.
This part hurt my head.

Anyways, I think a budget of under 400 euros for a desktop could be a good way to go if possible. I wouldn't want to go higher, especially as the consoles are gonna drop in price soon enough too. I want to enjoy some more modern games but I'm still very much a recreational gamer, playing maybe an hour a day to chill.
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: Rusch69 on October 18, 2015, 06:19:17 AM
Oh well I just could've googled for the "imedia s3720" model name in order to find most of the needed info/specs. :cheersad:
I wasn't able to find out what mainboard model is installed. Also I have no clue what the RAM's clock & timings are. Wattage of the power supply also remains unknown for now.
Download CPU-Z and provide screenshots of the "Mainboard" and "Memory" tabs like so please.

(http://abload.de/img/mbrqq4a.jpg)(http://abload.de/img/mem75rdv.jpg)
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: Lex on October 18, 2015, 06:58:18 AM
I died
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: Kingjad on October 18, 2015, 07:30:40 AM
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Title: Re: Need help
Post by: Rusch69 on October 18, 2015, 09:07:07 AM
Okay thank you. Unfortunately I can't find specs of the mainboard model, so I don't know how many RAM slots it has and what it's max capacity would be. Overclocking also is no option in this case at all.



Your RAM is currently running in Single Channel mode, because the capacities (1 GB & 2 GB) of the two sticks are different. You could replace the 1 GB stick with another 2 GB one. A matching stick (clock frequency of 800 Mhz & CL 6 latency) costs about 20-25 € and would make it 4 GB in Dual Channel. Something like this (http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/2GB-Kingston-ValueRAM-DDR2-800-DIMM-CL6-Single_429061.html).

Additionally a new graphics card would boost gaming performance a lot. No need to invest a lot here either since the CPU will be the bottleneck anyway as mentioned earlier. I don't have any information about the installed power supply (connectors & Wattage). Assuming it has no extra 6 pin PCIe power connector and has low Wattage, a GTX 750 Ti could be an option. It has a fairly low power consumption of just ~60 W max. Some designs of NVIDIA's board partners don't even require a PCIe power connector and draw it all directly from the mainboard.

Here's two models:
MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti Twin Frozr (http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/2048MB-MSI-GeForce-GTX-750-Ti-Twin-Frozr-Gaming-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retai_952363.html)
Palit GeForce GTX 750 Ti StormX OC (http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/2048MB-Palit-GeForce-GTX-750-Ti-StormX-OC-Dual-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail_952358.html)

In total a RAM stick + graphics card would be ~150 €. It would be less if you're going with used parts of course.
That could be it, assuming the power supply will handle the graphics card. Otherwise a new power supply would increase the costs a bit.



Performance wise this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz1JWJU1qzw) is the range you'd be in. The FPS are shown in the top right corner.
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: Kingjad on October 18, 2015, 09:57:03 AM
I don't know how best to explain my power supply - I plug the computer in, computer turns on, magic?

If you mean my computer monitor itself and if it can handle the upgrade in graphics, then I may be able to help. Hopefully these random numbers and letters make sense to you:

Power rating: 100-240Vac50/60HZ, 1.5A

If all you recommend is improving the RAM and one of these graphics cards, then I may try to purchase them and get them installed into my current desktop.
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: Rusch69 on October 18, 2015, 10:44:36 AM
Maybe I was just a bit unclear. The connected monitor is completely irrelevant. :P
By power supply I mean the interal unit that draws power from the wall and delivers it to all the PC components.

Something like this:
(http://abload.de/img/psuzxkkt.jpg)
(http://www.thedopeproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Computer-Components-Power-Supply-Unit.jpg)

The sticker on it's side somewhere says how much watts it can deliver. A power supply's performance reduces with time a bit tho.

And yes, RAM + graphics card would be all.
(Additionally maybe a new internal power supply if the current one is not powerful enough to "feed" the new graphics card.)
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: Kingjad on October 18, 2015, 11:42:53 AM
I've consulted google and I think that I would need to get a new power supply - I think I'm currently operating with a 250w power supply as that seems to be the standard figure I've seen when I googled my PC name.

It looks like to get the extra RAM, new graphics card and an improved power supply would cost me over 200 pounds/euros altogether. I got some thinking to do.
Title: Re: Need help
Post by: Rusch69 on October 18, 2015, 03:05:49 PM
A proper power supply (http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/300-Watt-be-quiet--System-Power-7-Bulk-Non-Modular-80--Bronze_822189.html) for a system of this kind starts at around 30 €. 300 W will be enough to power your system already. You could try leaving it out first and see if the current one can handle it all under load. A close call, but it could work. :P
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