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General => General Discussion => Computer Talk => Topic started by: Angel on September 09, 2014, 09:42:57 AM
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Hi , i think to buy a new computer , but i don't know whether the given parameters are sufficient to meet my expectations. I need a computer who work seamlessly with part of the new games like GTA IV for example(which is not so new) . The seller who asked said: '' it's super , it's fine for it'' but they always try to sell their shits .
Tell me what u think about this :
Processor - Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 2.00 GHz
Motherboard - Asus P5K Intel P35 chipset, Dual-channel DDR2 1066/800/667 MHz
RAM - 2GB RAM Kingston Hyper X DDR2 800 2x1
HDD - HDD Hitachi 320Gb SATA 7200 rpm 3
Video Card - NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT Silent 256 MB
Opt. Device - Asus DRW
I'll wait for your opinion.
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Will run GTAIV on 3FPS.
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2GB ram is barely enough to run Windows 7 OS.
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2GB ram is barely enough to run Windows 7 OS.
No it's not? I ran it on a shitty Celeron with 1GB RAM and it was fine.
Also OP don't buy that, it's old as fuck (I'd guess around 2006/2007 parts), and leaves no room to upgrade in the future, plus the video card is passive so good luck running IV or newer games on it.
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Unless you are in a desperate need of a PC and he offers it really really really really cheap I woulden't buy it. Pretty outdated, will run games like BF3 (or BF4) on lowest setting (if it runs it at all) with low FPS. And that is on systems with 4-6GB ram, but this only has 2. So I highly doubt you'll be able to play memory intensive stuff like IV in a decent manner.
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It's very cheaply like 150 euros plus monitor 17' , but im tired of playing everything in lag , not even sony vegas will rend fine with this . There is an opportunity to build one with parts , can you offer me some processors and video cards?(not those of $ 800+)
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Huh dude I have the next components:
- 1GB of RAM (Running Windows 7 Ult 32 bits).
- ATI Radeon Xpress 200m series 254mb (It came by default when the computer was bought first, I can't even run VC with more than 800x600)
- 80GB Hard Drive
- Intel Celeron D proccesor
This PC has been giving me nightmares in editing and yet I still make it happen... I normally record VC and SA with no more than 10 or 12fps and it actually depends what resolution I use for it, normally I use 720p for both games. 5 FPS when I hit F9. So now you better learn you have a nice build and not because your SA running 3x AA, 1080p and Very High details is not going well, now feel happy you can actually open it lol.
- I can't watch previews on Sony Vegas, I'm forced to render them.
- I had a 17" monitor too and it was really cool and didn't make me stop doing stop something because I wasn't feeling comfy. I actually own a 22" one which is cool.
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I'm using a laptop with windows 7 already which run SA very clean , but IV without graphic . 2.4 Ghz , 4GB max memory 8 GB , intel core , GMA HD ...not for games but chat.
I have money for parts , all i need is the best one at an affordable price .
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Yeah then again you have a laptop, which is useless.
Don't think you can ever play games with regular laptops. If you have the money just go for the 800$ self build desktop PC and you'll be able to run games for years ahead.
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And this is what i think to do , i found the video card already :happy: Inno3D GF GTX260 896MB - second hand on best price .
I'll tell you next week what parts i have taken , still u can help with parameters of parts.
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Processor - Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 2.00 GHz - Atleast take a quad core or sixcore
Motherboard - Asus P5K Intel P35 chipset, Dual-channel DDR2 1066/800/667 MHz - idk take something around 100 euros
RAM - 2GB RAM Kingston Hyper X DDR2 800 2x1 - atleast 4GB lesser is shit.
HDD - HDD Hitachi 320Gb SATA 7200 rpm 3 take a SSD it will give you the most difference in loading programs
Video Card - NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT Silent 256 MB - take something with 1GB atleast. newest ATI cards are cheaper then the newest Nvidia's
Opt. Device - Asus DRW - you still use it?
My advice is to go for something were you dont need to upgrade after 1/2 years. ofcourse there are always new parts but get some high standard so you dont need to upgrade in 4 years. spend a bit more money on it.
I bought 5 years ago:
- 4GB ram 800mhz
-ATI 4870HD 1GB
- AMD black edition 9950 2.6 x4
- 650 watt PSU
And can still run some high-end games, well BF series plays with lags mainly due my processor and ram. GTA4 runs smooth at medium settings.
I currently dont have the money to spend on a new pc, otherwise i would planning to...i mean 5 years with a decent build isnt that bad...
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Sheeptea, you're useless. Just got myself a new laptop yesterday! :a-cheer:
HP ENVY 15.6"
Processor AMD A10-5750M APU (2 MB cache)
RAM 8 GB DDR3
Graphics card AMD Radeon 8750M (2 GB DDR3)
Storage 1 TB SSHD, 5400 rpm
Sound Beats Audio
Speakers - Integrated stereo speakers x 4
- Integrated subwoofer x 2
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Sheeptea, you're useless. Just got myself a new laptop yesterday! :a-cheer:
HP ENVY 15.6"
Processor AMD A10-5750M APU (2 MB cache)
RAM 8 GB DDR3
Graphics card AMD Radeon 8750M (2 GB DDR3)
Storage 1 TB SSHD, 5400 rpm
Sound Beats Audio
Speakers - Integrated stereo speakers x 4
- Integrated subwoofer x 2
Okay tell me how much that cost you? I doubt anything near 1k £$€ wouldn't be enough and yet desktop PC with same price tag on it would be 10x better.
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Okay tell me how much that cost you? I doubt anything near 1k £$€ wouldn't be enough and yet desktop PC with same price tag on it would be 10x better.
:ajaja:
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This has quickly formed into a show off specification topic.
I suggest taking a quad core or six core like mentioned above with at least 2.0GHz (they usually have turbo, in which would boost them to 2.5 or 3 [if lucky]). For GTA IV; I personally believe a 1.25-30GB video memory should do it for decent fps (max settings on IV takes only 1.1GB). A 4GB RAM and at least a 500GB HDD should start your route.
The rest is dependent on what you want to do, soso.
And so along, is what's advised by the folks earlier - someone get Andre Ruschfucking69 here, I'm expecting a post of his soon.
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Okay I quickly build something from newegg less than 800$ like you wanted.
Mobo 124$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157501 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157501)
CPU + Fan 166$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1845769 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1845769)
GPU 149$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121855 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121855)
PSU 64$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028)
RAM 74$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104442 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104442)
HDD 79$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236625 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236625)
Case 49$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139041 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139041)
705$ total and it can pretty much run GTA IV Full HD.
It's even cheaper if you can use some parts from your previous PC like the Case or HDD so minus them it's under 600$
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Thank u for the help , i read everything very carefully and already bought a video card - http://www.pazaruvaj.com/video-karti-c3142/inno3d/gf-gtx260-896mb-512bit-ddr3-pci-e-n260-1ddn-h3iv-p27182542/ (http://www.pazaruvaj.com/video-karti-c3142/inno3d/gf-gtx260-896mb-512bit-ddr3-pci-e-n260-1ddn-h3iv-p27182542/) (second hand on good price) next step is processor that i found 3,5ghz but i'll see it next week and motherboard which my friend suggested - http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P6N_SLI_Platinum.html#hero-specification (http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P6N_SLI_Platinum.html#hero-specification) . I bought only a video card , the rest is not so sure , besides i found some interesting tips and products in your comments so it may take a time .
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(http://forums.drom.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=3887561&d=1356398259)
That's not what we told you to do. You need a better video card with AT LEAST 1GB RAM, but 2gb is highly recommended!
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Yes i found out from ur comments today but i had already bought, i can give the card back that's not a problem . There is no one else to listen but you about that . So i start from 0 again , i will find 2mb card and will write soon.
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Sheeptea, you're useless. Just got myself a new laptop yesterday! :a-cheer:
HP ENVY 15.6"
Processor AMD A10-5750M APU (2 MB cache)
RAM 8 GB DDR3
Graphics card AMD Radeon 8750M (2 GB DDR3)
Storage 1 TB SSHD, 5400 rpm
Sound Beats Audio
Speakers - Integrated stereo speakers x 4
- Integrated subwoofer x 2
Okay tell me how much that cost you? I doubt anything near 1k £$€ wouldn't be enough and yet desktop PC with same price tag on it would be 10x better.
600 quid with 100 quid cashback. :cc_detective:
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Had GTX260, had hard time...
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If you think a laptop is better than a desktop you are deluded.
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If you think a laptop is better than a desktop you are deluded.
I don't know man, Alienware 18 with i7 4900,32 gb ram,dual GTX 780,4.9ghz(turbo boost) is pretty beast for a laptop. Only problem is that would cost around $4,500. Although with a desktop the possibilities are endless :p
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If you think a laptop is better than a desktop you are deluded.
Better is a relative term. Nobody's buying a laptop to beat the best desktop on the market, it's about portability. To a certain degree, the possibilities really are "endless". You just have to take thermal throttling and size into consideration (as well as the magic word, price :D).
As other's have said, the specifications you listed in the first post are way under powered. I would recommend using your budget fully if you want something that's going to last you a good few years. But hell, you could get a better PC than the PS4/Xbone for $500, and given the architecture of next gen, that would set you up well for the PC games coming over the next 2-3 years.
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I wouldn't recommend that GTX260... It won't do you much tbh.
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If you think a laptop is better than a desktop you are deluded.
I'd like to see you take your desktop somewhere. Depends on your lifestyle, really. If you like to sit home all day err day then enjoy your desktop. :euro:
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I wouldn't recommend that GTX260... It won't do you much tbh.
True story.
I have the newer GT 750m/1GB(for laptops) and it's just average. Really only good for the older games I play such as SA.
If you want to build a gaming PC you will need a better card than that GTX260 dude. Return that one asap :ajaja:
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I found a Tesla but still 890mb and Radeon Sapphire Hd6770 1GB Gddr5 and still hard to find 2gb good bits card .
....searching.....
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Im searching to buy ASUS GTX750TI-OC-2GD5 G-SYNC Support GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready Video Card from Sheeptea
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1gb card is good for now, you can always upgrade later when you have more money to spend on it. I'm not an expert by far, but I have done a lot of research on video cards and processors. Basically, I only know what's good or not based on what I have purchased and researched. I'm not familiar with Radeon cards though, I only wanted Nividia, so that's what I know about. I'm sure they are good cards though.
Look at the GeForce GT 730 64-bit GDDR5. It's around $60 and will run most games on high with playable frame rates. You can either settle for now on a decent card and wait to upgrade, or just hold out on the build until you have the sufficient funds to build what you really want.
Im searching to buy ASUS GTX750TI-OC-2GD5 G-SYNC Support GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready Video Card from Sheeptea
That video card is way better than what I was recommending, If you can afford it, go for it. :a-cheer:
For laptops I know the GTX 765 is the closest you can get to what would be considered a "high end" video card that is still somewhat affordable for a budget.
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If you think a laptop is better than a desktop you are deluded.
I'd like to see you take your desktop somewhere. Depends on your lifestyle, really. If you like to sit home all day err day then enjoy your desktop. :euro:
Nothing in my life requires me to have a computer with me at all times, as you said on it depends on your lifestyle, however enjoy upgrading components once your laptop becomes outdated, or replacing them if they break.
Oh wait
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If you think a laptop is better than a desktop you are deluded.
I'd like to see you take your desktop somewhere. Depends on your lifestyle, really. If you like to sit home all day err day then enjoy your desktop. :euro:
Nothing in my life requires me to have a computer with me at all times, as you said on it depends on your lifestyle, however enjoy upgrading components once your laptop becomes outdated, or replacing them if they break.
Oh wait
I can do an upgrade for a brand new laptop in a year and I've got free breakdown service + anti-virus for a year so really I'm sorted and I'm happy with a laptop. Don't tell me what's best for me when I'm fine as I am. End of conversation kid.
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If you think a laptop is better than a desktop you are deluded.
I'd like to see you take your desktop somewhere. Depends on your lifestyle, really. If you like to sit home all day err day then enjoy your desktop. :euro:
Nothing in my life requires me to have a computer with me at all times, as you said on it depends on your lifestyle, however enjoy upgrading components once your laptop becomes outdated, or replacing them if they break.
Oh wait
I can do an upgrade for a brand new laptop in a year and I've got free breakdown service + anti-virus for a year so really I'm sorted and I'm happy with a laptop. Don't tell me what's best for me when I'm fine as I am. End of conversation kid.
I laughed at the anti-virus part.... :3
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If you think a laptop is better than a desktop you are deluded.
I'd like to see you take your desktop somewhere. Depends on your lifestyle, really. If you like to sit home all day err day then enjoy your desktop. :euro:
Nothing in my life requires me to have a computer with me at all times, as you said on it depends on your lifestyle, however enjoy upgrading components once your laptop becomes outdated, or replacing them if they break.
Oh wait
I can do an upgrade for a brand new laptop in a year and I've got free breakdown service + anti-virus for a year so really I'm sorted and I'm happy with a laptop. Don't tell me what's best for me when I'm fine as I am. End of conversation kid.
I laughed at the anti-virus part.... :3
They give it, I take it. :mellow:
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If you think a laptop is better than a desktop you are deluded.
I'd like to see you take your desktop somewhere. Depends on your lifestyle, really. If you like to sit home all day err day then enjoy your desktop. :euro:
Nothing in my life requires me to have a computer with me at all times, as you said on it depends on your lifestyle, however enjoy upgrading components once your laptop becomes outdated, or replacing them if they break.
Oh wait
I can do an upgrade for a brand new laptop in a year and I've got free breakdown service + anti-virus for a year so really I'm sorted and I'm happy with a laptop. Don't tell me what's best for me when I'm fine as I am. End of conversation kid.
I laughed at the anti-virus part.... :3
They give it, I take it. :mellow:
Depends, which virusscanner it is...