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GTA Series => Grand Theft Auto - Vice City => VC Un-Modded Stunting Video Releases => Topic started by: Ltab on February 10, 2012, 01:08:35 PM

Title: Counterfact
Post by: Ltab on February 10, 2012, 01:08:35 PM
Counterfact (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQuWfaVSYCQ#ws)


Trio between Cooper, Turok and BG Hitman, edited by me. DL link cooming soon :P

Download link http://www.sendspace.com/file/lvrcwg (http://www.sendspace.com/file/lvrcwg)

Sorry for delay, internet has been working like crap and well, irl stuff too :P


PS. Both car stunts were done by Cooper and the tankbump done by BG Hitman :happy:

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Danger on February 10, 2012, 01:10:30 PM
First :)
Many stunts liked, especially 1:30 - 1:47. 1:34 is my stunt  :wub:
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: ZeRo_ on February 10, 2012, 01:13:29 PM
Great vid guys, everybody had some funky stunts, BG Hitman stood out for me. :)
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Silw on February 10, 2012, 01:15:41 PM
Cool trio guys and nice clean editing disliked the music though :P
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Sheep on February 10, 2012, 01:15:45 PM
2 last stunts ... :o

also Cooper's car drop-bump2glitched-roof was nice :ajaja:
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Ltab on February 10, 2012, 01:38:04 PM
Download

http://www.sendspace.com/file/lvrcwg (http://www.sendspace.com/file/lvrcwg)
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: BG hitman on February 10, 2012, 01:39:10 PM
You didn't put 1 stunt from Cooper and 1 from me but it's not a problem since they were the worst  :P :D :cc_detective:

great edit Ltab rly liked it ! + expecting a DL link soon  :P
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Ltab on February 10, 2012, 01:44:33 PM
You didn't put 1 stunt from Cooper and 1 from me but it's not a problem since they were the worst  :P :D :cc_detective:

great edit Ltab rly liked it ! + expecting a DL link soon  :P

Yeah :lol: thanks. And look up you'll find the download link lolol
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Arnax on February 10, 2012, 01:53:14 PM
Fresh vid, bad music.
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Max_ on February 10, 2012, 02:08:02 PM
Awesome vid with Great ideas.
Mostly liked bgh's ledge grind to prec in lc ;) that was sexy :D
The edit was great too :)
Great vid overall, enjoyed it GJ
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: TurBo on February 10, 2012, 02:51:45 PM
Nice vid, everyone had solid stuff, some nice standouts too.
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Skuller on February 10, 2012, 02:57:49 PM
Pretty awesome!
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: FTO on February 10, 2012, 07:23:36 PM
Coolio stunts. Didn't like the song tho.
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Syny on February 10, 2012, 07:54:03 PM
Cool stunts. My favorite was the opener  ;)
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Ltab on February 10, 2012, 08:59:29 PM
I didn't choose song, BGH sent me that one and I was too lazy for discuss for another one, and it was no problem for me so.. :P
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Dimension on February 10, 2012, 10:17:35 PM
So much grinds, but most of them were pretty cool. Nice job on the editing. :P
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Metalsoad on February 10, 2012, 10:50:28 PM
amazing  :cheernutz: i enjoyed
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: STREEM on February 11, 2012, 12:07:00 AM
too bad you used unreleased cols hitman >_>
anyway, my favorite was turok's sanchez stuff, woooo
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: TrYp on February 11, 2012, 02:25:38 AM
Cool video overall. There wasn't any stand-out because everybody did a good job. Turok had some old spots though.
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Cooper on February 11, 2012, 08:28:49 AM
thanks adri for inviting me to this :cc_detective:
and thanks ltab for taking the editing job :P i kinda liked the song, didnt really liked the far camera angles cause you can't really see very clear the stunt but w/e oye
about stunting, i liked my stuff only <_<
jk i liked opener alot, so as pre-finisher and my fav is the finisher :wub:
great job guys
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: BG hitman on February 11, 2012, 08:36:14 AM
too bad you used unreleased cols hitman >_>
anyway, my favorite was turok's sanchez stuff, woooo

Why ?
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Shifftee on February 13, 2012, 02:40:18 AM
Nice job, enjoyable trio! ^^
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Raskal on February 13, 2012, 05:06:07 PM
BGH!!! Everyone had great stuff, really sweet video. My only objection is the song choice, a bigger song might have gave the video a bit better of an atmosphere.
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: RedX on February 13, 2012, 06:48:46 PM
Pizzaboy combo and polebump stood out for me. Some lame stunts, many mediocre, a few good, nice editing and an annoying song. Fair video overall.
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Simon on February 13, 2012, 10:01:32 PM
I think you should release the cols or stop using them BGhitman. I don't see a problem with using them, but when you are keeping them for yourself like that it's kind of douchy :P

Some cool stunts in this, nice video. I liked some of the car stunt in to the glitched building in VC, it was smart :)
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Skuller on February 14, 2012, 04:34:35 AM
I think you should release the cols or stop using them BGhitman. I don't see a problem with using them, but when you are keeping them for yourself like that it's kind of douchy :P
He can't release somthing that wasn't made by him and he already said it so stop with this.
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Rainbow on February 14, 2012, 06:24:14 AM
Yes, BG definately had some SOLID stuff... oh snap..


Anyway, the cols are nice, tested them fully yesterday  :P But your spots were really nice with them + some of the newer unreleased ones  :euro: . Liked most of the stunts a lot, from everyone.
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: BG hitman on February 14, 2012, 07:11:37 AM
I think you should release the cols or stop using them BGhitman. I don't see a problem with using them, but when you are keeping them for yourself like that it's kind of douchy :P

Some cool stunts in this, nice video. I liked some of the car stunt in to the glitched building in VC, it was smart :)

So it's a problem that I land stunts that people can't land becouse of the cols ? Than I don't see any problem It's not like someone has lost a spot  <_<
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Brainkiller on February 14, 2012, 08:48:29 AM
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Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Genyus on February 14, 2012, 09:06:41 AM
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Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Kai on February 14, 2012, 12:16:44 PM
I think you should release the cols or stop using them BGhitman. I don't see a problem with using them, but when you are keeping them for yourself like that it's kind of douchy :P

Some cool stunts in this, nice video. I liked some of the car stunt in to the glitched building in VC, it was smart :)

So it's a problem that I land stunts that people can't land becouse of the cols ? Than I don't see any problem It's not like someone has lost a spot  <_<

You're having a advantage not many of the community share with each other, that's the problem. You could've just waited till the maker of this mod released the collisions to the mass and not to only a few people.

Good video anyway
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: BG hitman on February 14, 2012, 01:21:08 PM
I think you should release the cols or stop using them BGhitman. I don't see a problem with using them, but when you are keeping them for yourself like that it's kind of douchy :P

Some cool stunts in this, nice video. I liked some of the car stunt in to the glitched building in VC, it was smart :)

So it's a problem that I land stunts that people can't land becouse of the cols ? Than I don't see any problem It's not like someone has lost a spot  <_<

You're having a advantage not many of the community share with each other, that's the problem. You could've just waited till the maker of this mod released the collisions to the mass and not to only a few people.

Good video anyway


Yes you are right but.... EPIC SPOTS lololol omg  :lol: :P !
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Genyus on February 14, 2012, 01:27:41 PM
Yes you are right but.... EPIC SPOTS lololol omg  :lol: :P !
How come I'm not surprised you react like this? Oh right, it's because you and your friends were childish enough to keep those collisions for yourself to begin with.
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Simon on February 14, 2012, 01:52:46 PM
I'll put it as unfair, you have the advantage to find every spot someone might have before they have the chance. So they might have lost a spot they have thought of before but the cols weren't there for it. And the fact that you and others have gotten a hold of it means to me that you could easily have posted a link, but you just seem selfish to just keep them for yourselves landing all the spots...

That's why I think you should either just wait with those stunts or just give everyone a link. It's not like it's going to hurt giving others the link, you are keeping what might be a "fun-boost" for yourself.
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: BG hitman on February 14, 2012, 02:30:14 PM
Genyus and Simon: The guy who made the cols told me not to spread them since they are not finished ! And stop telling me how unfair it is cause u start seem jelous, and this is just a fuckin game + it's not like u are gonna play it 'till the end of your life (lol I don't know is that argument good or what but anyway). Also I would spread the link but I don't want to disapoint the guy who made them and he was good enough to send it to me

You guys are nice I don't know why u react like this not that it's wrong but you kinda make it bigger than it actually is. We are talking about several stunts not for a whole fuckin solo well yeah I have one more stunt with fixed cols which is unreleased but soon people will see it but still that does not change the things

OK if it's such a big problem I won't be stunting with the fixed cols since this is realeased so have it your way !

Have a nice day !
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Kai on February 14, 2012, 02:35:26 PM
Well even the guy who made them would've liked you not to release the stunts aslong as the mod is not released yet. Consider that.
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Cooper on February 14, 2012, 02:48:16 PM
Well even the guy who made them would've liked you not to release the stunts aslong as the mod is not released yet. Consider that.
word

anyways its not legit imo
i mean its not a patch from the lc team, its like adding ramps on random places, but w/e
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Genyus on February 14, 2012, 02:55:05 PM
this is just a fuckin game
Exactly, so why are you and your DSS buddies so pumped up to keep this for yourself and not share it with anyone? It seems like for you people it's more than just a game.. :\

I don't know the size of this collision fix, but I've had a lot of spots in my mind that can't be done without collision fixes and from what I've heard this thing you have fixes a lot so in the sense of everyone having fun and this just being a game, the wise thing to do would be share it with everyone.

ps. I'm not blaming you for not sharing it since you didn't make it, hence I blame the creator for keeping it secret. The only blame you get is for participating in keeping it secret.

i mean its not a patch from the lc team, its like adding ramps on random places, but w/e
meh dude, the textures are already there. it's like the LC team was too lazy to fix stuff. collision fixes have been done before and comparing it to adding ramps on random places makes no sense.. :P
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: The Big V on February 14, 2012, 03:12:05 PM
anyways its not legit imo
i mean its not a patch from the lc team, its like adding ramps on random places, but w/e


One of the first LC releases had LOTS of unfixed roofs. Most of the huge roofs you see landed now in stunting videos were unsolid. So someone in GTAS decided to fix them. Its not counted as modding or "adding ramps on random places" as you can see. Same thing with the fixed collisions.

And guys omagash just wait a bit , the mod will be out soon. Be patient  <_<
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: BG hitman on February 14, 2012, 03:15:04 PM
Genyus: I told u If it depends on me I would have shared it already but it's not + the guy how made it did not told me anything about posting stunts with the fixed cols. And do u rly think that we give so much shit about the cols and keep it in secret  :lol: We are not so active in our private chat to discuss and talk about it and I even bet some of the members still remember that we have fixed cols so calm down dude
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Hetfield on February 14, 2012, 03:17:17 PM
@ all of you bitching
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/729/butthurt2.jpg)

Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: The Big V on February 14, 2012, 03:22:13 PM
And its not like we keep the collisions for ourselves. For example take a look at WH and their stoppie method. The community learned about it 2 years later. The collisions arent still finished and you want them like some kind of addicted drug user.
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Kai on February 14, 2012, 03:23:18 PM
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/729/butthurt2.jpg)

Indeed. I am so mad I could swing a cactus at somebody  <_< No but for real just don't do anymore okay :)?
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Gavran on February 14, 2012, 03:41:07 PM
Really nice video you got here BG, really like those stunts where you used MY collision fixes. However I told you not to release any of those stunts until the mod was publicly release because I suspected that this discussion would occur.

To clear everything up to all of you, I am NOT keeping it for DSS, nor am I only keeping it for those who I'd only like to have it. I gave these collision fixes to DSS so they could betatest it for me and give me feedback. So far thanks to them I have found and fixed approximately 60 bugs, and there are still many to be fixed.

At this point I have seen nothing but bitching about the collisions, none of you even posted like "Nice stunts, where did you get the collision? Can you please share a download link.
I am really having second thoughts about releasing this mod now however, I have used over 60 hours creating this and it's about 60% done I'd say, and I have yet to see any appreciation other than those of DSS.
Nobody whined about Daffy's collision fix in VC, nor about Ralleees in Astral, are the stunts really so hard to enjoy because you don't have access to it? Nobody complained about True Story mapmod not being publicly released either.

For now I don't have the motivation to finish it, BG was mainly my boost to get this done (Big V as well).

Also to all of those who might have gotten their hands on this mod somehow outside of DSS(mainly directed at Rainbow) please do not release any stunts with it.

Also a final note, I must warn you that the current version of the mod is heavily unfriendly to stunting. It has loads of bugs, some roofs that normally have collision don't and MANY invisible walls.
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: MtS on February 14, 2012, 03:55:37 PM
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Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Stevex on February 14, 2012, 04:05:21 PM
Really nice video you got here BG, really like those stunts where you used MY collision fixes. However I told you not to release any of those stunts until the mod was publicly release because I suspected that this discussion would occur.

To clear everything up to all of you, I am NOT keeping it for DSS, nor am I only keeping it for those who I'd only like to have it. I gave these collision fixes to DSS so they could betatest it for me and give me feedback. So far thanks to them I have found and fixed approximately 60 bugs, and there are still many to be fixed.

At this point I have seen nothing but bitching about the collisions, none of you even posted like "Nice stunts, where did you get the collision? Can you please share a download link.
I am really having second thoughts about releasing this mod now however, I have used over 60 hours creating this and it's about 60% done I'd say, and I have yet to see any appreciation other than those of DSS.
Nobody whined about Daffy's collision fix in VC, nor about Ralleees in Astral, are the stunts really so hard to enjoy because you don't have access to it? Nobody complained about True Story mapmod not being publicly released either.

For now I don't have the motivation to finish it, BG was mainly my boost to get this done (Big V as well).

Also to all of those who might have gotten their hands on this mod somehow outside of DSS(mainly directed at Rainbow) please do not release any stunts with it.

Also a final note, I must warn you that the current version of the mod is heavily unfriendly to stunting. It has loads of bugs, some roofs that normally have collision don't and MANY invisible walls.
Please finish the .cols, it would really help LC and VC stunting in general. About Daffys VC p2b, he did post them in the topic. Dunno about Ralleees bump tho
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Gavran on February 14, 2012, 04:09:30 PM
Yeah I probably will finish it eventually, though I need to learn some more moddeling. I know it will help LC stunting alot, but how on Earth will an LC collision fix help VC stunting?  :cc_detective:

Didn't know Daffy posted them, but anyways was just trying to make a point, and these are the only occurances I could think off.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Stevex on February 14, 2012, 04:10:45 PM
Yeah I probably will finish it eventually, though I need to learn some more moddeling. I know it will help LC stunting alot, but how on Earth will an LC collision fix help VC stunting?  :cc_detective:

Didn't know Daffy posted them, but anyways was just trying to make a point, and these are the only occurances I could think off.  :rolleyes:
I meant that they would bring more p2bs to the VC engine  :euro:
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Genyus on February 15, 2012, 11:02:52 AM
And its not like we keep the collisions for ourselves. For example take a look at WH and their stoppie method. The community learned about it 2 years later.
and I blame WH for that equally as much, keeping something secret like that means you take away the fun for everyone but yourself, which is if you ask me fucking retarded. Share and care with the world is what brings everyone good, right?..

Also Gavran you didn't get the point made I guess, everyone is in fact really happy you are making these colls, that's probably the reason everybody wants them and seeing a mod to be so wanted would motivate me a lot :P (I'd even say it would be the third best mod ever, behind Dannye's SCM and Freeplay). It's just that it almost seemed like it was kept secret for only a few people, but now that you've cleared it up it makes more sense. Sorry for being a bitch earlier.
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Noah on February 15, 2012, 11:28:01 AM
Oh god the extreme butthurt in this topic is so immense I could feel it from 3 sections away. Yeah we have the .cols thanks to Gavran's supreme work, and no it's not giving us any unfair advantages. If you want to land Hitmans spots then bloody just open up an editor of some sort and fix the cols yourself, like so many others have done in the past.

And hating on Hitman for using it? Really? Really??
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Kai on February 15, 2012, 12:25:59 PM
Yes because Gavran didn't allow him to and he still continued. Wouldn't you be upset aswell if you worked on a Mod and told people not to publish anything with it yet, but they do?

Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: The Big V on February 15, 2012, 12:50:23 PM
And its not like we keep the collisions for ourselves. For example take a look at WH and their stoppie method. The community learned about it 2 years later.
and I blame WH for that equally as much, keeping something secret like that means you take away the fun for everyone but yourself, which is if you ask me fucking retarded. Share and care with the world is what brings everyone good, right?..

Oh cmon the mod is not even finished yet. Yeah you are pregnant at the 6th month , but your family wants to see the baby so much. LETS TAKE IT OUT OF THE MOTHER'S VAGINA RIGHT AWAY! No one said we aint releasing the mod, just be patient it is not yet f-i-n-i-s-h-e-d. And as it was already discussed Hitman made a mistake/misunderstood and released some stunts with it. Why you guys wanna flame so much over some collisions? Does that satisfy you in some way or something?

Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Named on February 15, 2012, 12:58:14 PM
Give a stunt to BG, and he will land it, simple haha, good joob guys  :a-cheer:
Title: Re: Counterfact
Post by: Genyus on February 15, 2012, 01:59:29 PM
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You should read the rest of my post
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