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GTA Series => Grand Theft Auto - Vice City => VC Tutorials => Topic started by: Daffy on January 08, 2012, 08:23:19 AM
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Uploading this per request, we (us in WH) have known about this method for a while but never really found any good use for it so the reason I'm posting without checking with boxXx first is just to see what you guys can do with it.
boxXx discovered it sometime during 2007 if I remember correctly.
I'm not uploading it to YouTube due to the racist (joke?) boxXx put in there, feel free to do it yourself.
EDIT: Also didn't post this earlier because it doesn't work for some people, including myself last time I tried so don't be surprised if it doesn't work for you either.
http://www.filesonic.com/file/hjWDQzJ (http://www.filesonic.com/file/hjWDQzJ)
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Downloading, expecting something already known if it's vc tho.
Yeah, I knew it from vcmp, but I still don't get how can it work on singleplayer.
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Wasn't this a glitch caused by Dannye's or some mod?
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I think Red did something pretty cool using this. I think :unsure:
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damn its hard...im trying to get on the bike but i can't....
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I think Boxxx trolled you with his handling changes Daffy.
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I think Boxxx trolled you with his handling changes Daffy.
Yeah seriously why would it work for only few people :lol:
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I think Feron said that it depends on the MAIN.SCM, I haven't tested that theory though but I have been able to do it in VC and LC, I think Dannye's MAIN.SCM v3 or v4 as the most recent version at that time.
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Im pretty sure Hakera did some really long stoppie in VC airport and everyone said he modded. This method reminded me of that. But seriously how does driving your bike behind "the tree" and getting back on it should cause it to do super long stoppie ? :D
And how boxXx got on that high roof near the building site without getting off the bike or at least bailing. I think boxXx is just messing with us :cc_detective:
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Works for me and this also affects the radding :P
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Yes, it gives you SA FL-Off RAD's.
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Can more people post videos? If nobody else can post then I am just assuming a pizzaboy handling line on a PCJ with more speed or something like that :ajaja: And if it affects the RAD then, how come nobody ever landed a high roof with it?
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Because you have to do the "get off pop on" thing after each time you bail which get tiring and you pop out of the RAD's a lot so unless you perfect landing on the back wheel instantly continuing the RAD's a normal RAD's will give you better speeds.
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it works for me in LC, havent tried in VC
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Savatage and/or BK: Please post an ingame clip of it :)
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http://www.mediafire.com/?sa4o9dp7ju09a00 (http://www.mediafire.com/?sa4o9dp7ju09a00) a rep of my first 3 attempts :P
last one also shows the difference between a normal stoppie and this glitchy one
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How do you do this in VC anyway? :hmm: A similar tree? It doesn't work for me with my latest version of the main.scm. Which version do you have Sava?
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You need a shallow space made by a wall and a thin fixed object like a tree or a wooden pole, ex.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/20jfjvs.jpg)
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When red did it, he did it between the pole for the BB that barney lands as the finisher in unorthodox.
I can see if I can find the clip he sent me.
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When red did it, he did it between the pole for the BB that barney lands as the finisher in unorthodox.
I tried that too and it works ;)
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Doesn't work for me, neither on vc or lc.
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didn't boxxx admit that he mods??
anyway trying this tomorow
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First I thought he changed the pizzaboy's dff to the pcj's
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About fucking time. Not sharing this with the community back when it was discovered was just plain stupid. We're all here to have fun, and I'm sure a lot of people would have enjoyed this, and some cool stunts could have been landed if it wasn't for this ridiculous fame-greed. Well at least all that's in the past now.
Oh and it's boxXx I blame, not you Daffy, even though I think simply overriding him wouldn't have been out of place. The only bone I have to pick with you is that you used the method in some WH video without people knowing, which was pretty weak (stairs2stoppie2grind by VC police station).
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Doesn't work for me :/
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The only bone I have to pick with you is that you used the method in some WH video without people knowing, which was pretty weak (stairs2stoppie2grind by VC police station).
(http://i44.tinypic.com/rr1gzr.jpg)
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The only bone I have to pick with you is that you used the method in some WH video without people knowing, which was pretty weak (stairs2stoppie2grind by VC police station).
(http://i44.tinypic.com/rr1gzr.jpg)
What video was that?
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I really have no shit what u guys are talkin about, so im downloading that vid and see what it actually is, will comment later
E: interesting..
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If it works with older scm's try with the original. If it then works then it's legit else it's not.
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Okay I've tried it with original main.scm. Still doesn't work for me. Can someone else try it too just to be sure that it's modded?
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About fucking time. Not sharing this with the community back when it was discovered was just plain stupid. We're all here to have fun, and I'm sure a lot of people would have enjoyed this, and some cool stunts could have been landed if it wasn't for this ridiculous fame-greed. Well at least all that's in the past now.
Oh and it's boxXx I blame, not you Daffy, even though I think simply overriding him wouldn't have been out of place. The only bone I have to pick with you is that you used the method in some WH video without people knowing, which was pretty weak (stairs2stoppie2grind by VC police station).
Hell yeah, exactly my thoughts too. But I think it was a crew decision not to release this method, not just BoxXx.
EDIT to Red : oh, ok then. Not sure about it so I wont insist further.
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No it was pretty much boxXx as far as I've understood from conversations with Daffy.
E: Edga it's worked for me in the past. I remember Barney talking about this in the past, he said that the glitch was discovered much before boxXx found a legal way to perform it. I guess there's an easy way to do it using USCM or something.
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That's old as fuck, you can rey an easy one putting a packer on a side of that fence (the tipical grind for begginers assisted with a packer) at VC fire department. You go through the packer and then you press brakes for a normal stoppie and after 2 seconds you stop and start going fowards. It's kinda hard to explian, I can take a pic or a replay to show but I'm too lazy..
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That's old as fuck, you can rey an easy one putting a packer on a side of that fence (the tipical grind for begginers assisted with a packer) at VC fire department. You go through the packer and then you press brakes for a normal stoppie and after 2 seconds you stop and start going fowards. It's kinda hard to explian, I can take a pic or a replay to show but I'm too lazy..
a replay would be great maybe it will work for me in your way
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Oh sorry, I said that before watching the vid, as I saw in those pics b Daff thought it was something else, still gonna post sometime the idea I said..
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Why don't you guys make a full fletched tutorial to explain in detail how this method works legitimately. I can't see how it works for some but for the rest it doesn't afterall we should all be stunting on the same game shouldn't we ? :cc_detective:
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yeahwell, who cares if this doesnt work without dannyes, we do loads of things that arent poss without dannyes, try doing a grab in SA without dannyes.
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I don't do anything that's not possible without Dannye's, and except those new age stunters who have the most fucked up setups you'll ever see, I don't think a lot of stunters do. Why do USCM affect grabs in SA?
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The only bone I have to pick with you is that you used the method in some WH video without people knowing, which was pretty weak (stairs2stoppie2grind by VC police station).
(http://i44.tinypic.com/rr1gzr.jpg)
What video was that?
gazuntei
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The only bone I have to pick with you is that you used the method in some WH video without people knowing, which was pretty weak (stairs2stoppie2grind by VC police station).
(http://i44.tinypic.com/rr1gzr.jpg)
What video was that?
gazuntei
haha :lol:
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http://www.sendspace.com/file/ey72ts (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ey72ts)
Works fine with these
Not sharing this with the community back when it was discovered was just plain stupid. We're all here to have fun, and I'm sure a lot of people would have enjoyed this, and some cool stunts could have been landed if it wasn't for this ridiculous fame-greed. Well at least all that's in the past now.
Tolerated if they had fun not telling anyone?
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http://www.sendspace.com/file/ey72ts (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ey72ts)
HAHA the secret WH handling is ours now! Download it guys, it's awesome! :euro: :euro:
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I can't enter the bike when it's stuck. It didn't need to be stucked but still I can't enter it if there's something blocking the enterence..
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I found this years ago, may have even shown boxxx and feron since I still spoke to them back then. I never released this because I couldn't get it working with the default main.scm.
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I found this years ago, may have even shown boxxx and feron since I still spoke to them back then. I never released this because I couldn't get it working with the default main.scm.
So then its considered modding, amirite? :euro:
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I guess it's modding if it's not possible with the default main.scm. Still looks like a fun method, wouldn't mind seeing a video dedicated to it to show its possibilites.
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Might be fun Gavran. :happy:
Who's up to do a modded video with me?
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I don't do anything that's not possible without Dannye's, and except those new age stunters who have the most fucked up setups you'll ever see, I don't think a lot of stunters do. Why do USCM affect grabs in SA?
Can't explain why it does - but back when I was all about grabs in SA, I didnt use the uscm. To do an airgrab - I'd have to go straight up to the bump or the bike would fly away. Back then people talked about SAMP grabbing being easier since the bike "sticks" to you. That was tried - you could have an angled approach to the bump and still grab. I later installed the uscm for SA and noticed that the bike would stick to me, like in SAMP. Try it out!
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I'd be up for it, if anyone could explain to me which version of Dannyes it works with, or what other factor that is making this work. I have tried it in both VC, LC and Saivc with the newest Dannyes, as well as with original and no luck.
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this method works alot better with the default main.scm
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I do realize that much of stunting is based in exploits, but this is just poor taste
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I vaguely recall a long time ago, in an early version of the USCM, there was a bug with bikes which stuffed up handling (faggio-style stoppies on pcjs, and such). I think it was something about the bike being in a tight spot and then doing a teleport (which forced the bike out of there and put you on it).
I fixed it though... heh, or so I thought. I haven't actually watched any of the vids posted here yet, so I am only guessing from what you guys are saying, but this does sound at least similar. I would be curious to whether it can be done with the standard game scm or if I have caused it.
The talk about grabs being easier in SA with my scm is unfortunate, I had no idea :( . Interesting, the code is essentially based off the VC one, so I wonder if something stupid snuck in with the changes I had to make to convert it over to SA, or if its some strange SA-engine-only thing the code is conflicting with.
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The talk about grabs being easier in SA with my scm is unfortunate, I had no idea :( . Interesting, the code is essentially based off the VC one, so I wonder if something stupid snuck in with the changes I had to make to convert it over to SA, or if its some strange SA-engine-only thing the code is conflicting with.
He's talking out of his arse Dannye, I stunted for a long time without USCM and there's absolutely no difference. Slim and I were pretty much the first two people to start doing proper air grabs in SA and I was doing them all without USCM with just a car spawner and Crazy Trainer, there's no change at all. The first air grab was actually done on PS2 as well, and Omni did one afaik without it.
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I do realize that much of stunting is based in exploits, but this is just poor taste
Hahahahaha :lol:
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It's possible to do in a regular game, however you need the "Love Juice" mission PCJ (the one that the dealer drives) to do it, I tested it to see if the method could be used in a legit way. So either go get it from that mission or just simply use the "remember car" function in dannye's, it does the same thing.
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The talk about grabs being easier in SA with my scm is unfortunate, I had no idea :( . Interesting, the code is essentially based off the VC one, so I wonder if something stupid snuck in with the changes I had to make to convert it over to SA, or if its some strange SA-engine-only thing the code is conflicting with.
He's talking out of his arse Dannye, I stunted for a long time without USCM and there's absolutely no difference. Slim and I were pretty much the first two people to start doing proper air grabs in SA and I was doing them all without USCM with just a car spawner and Crazy Trainer, there's no change at all. The first air grab was actually done on PS2 as well, and Omni did one afaik without it.
Thats not true. And before you had the uscm, you probably didnt even do airgrabs, just groundgrabs. Search your thoughts, you know it to be true
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Really? You weren't even around when me and Slim were grabbing as far as I know :cc_detective:. I started with a 12h video called 'Running Out' a few days after Slim's grabbing solo came out, he really made SA grabbing what it is today. I landed one of the two 'real' car AG's in SA ever landed in Loik Wow, the other was done by Slim in a collab with Bobsaget (I also landed it with a different execution in Nyze's grab solo I edited, which he made without USCM). I didn't start using USCM until I finished Empty Hopes 2. Also invented SAMP grabbing starting with car-hit grabs in 'Multi Grab Auto', then grabs as we see them now in 'Creative Grabbing' with Anoobis. I didn't mean to offend you, but I know what I'm on about when it comes to AG's at least :)
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By the way, when will your solos come out?
(http://i.imgur.com/fZFK3.gif)
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fuck, that trollface gif is so freaking creepy o;
as far as i saw the vid, looks like fun, you could drive arond town and the grind something :>
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By the way, when will your solos come out?
(http://i.imgur.com/fZFK3.gif)
lol'd hard.
you're coming off a bit self righteous paul
e: haha, that's probably true ;P
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I knew I'd come off like that while I was writing it, but there's no real way of saying "I did this and this" without looking that way :jajaja:
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Deceived 2 finisher by Omni is pretty much the first proper grab ever done, get your facts straight mister Ididitall.
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I'm agreeing with shadowsniper on this one. Slim was here some days ago and we were talking about some gtas stuff (as he was thinking of returning) And he actually said he never used dannye in his days. Though ofcourse it might be easier with dannye, that I don't know, But it's not impossible without it either.
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Deceived 2 finisher by Omni is pretty much the first proper grab ever done, get your facts straight mister Ididitall.
No there was a grab done by some guy on PS2 before Omni, but I don't pretend to remember who. And really Simon, haven't spoke to him in years, hope he's okay :P
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Slim and I were pretty much the first two people to start doing proper air grabs in SA.
So you're proving yourself wrong.
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I made you a topic to discuss the rest of this in
http://www.gtastunting.net/index.php?topic=58465 (http://www.gtastunting.net/index.php?topic=58465)
now back to the Master Trickster thing, I can't get it to work. :c When I get my bike to fall towards the tree, it's stuck and I can't get back on it
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Remember the bike. That does the trick ;)
Btw. it also affects other bikes as Gavran and me discovered (More Gavran than me but still). You can slightly RAD in a faggio/pizzaboy with that method. We're not sure yet if it increases the total speed but you can do higher bumps with faggios now :P
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Okay, so after all, Daffy modded in Gazuntei.
:euro: :euro: :euro:
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^I knew Daffy was too good to be clean LOL :lol:
I'll try that remembering the car now :3
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this doesn't work, this must be a mod <_<
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It should work for everyone that remembers the bike with dannye's. Just find a narrow place where normally only the PCJ fits and run against it so it gets stuck like a BSM, press ENTER or whatever fucking button you use to get into vehicles and he should pop onto it, if not then you haven't done it properly.
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tried exactly like show'd in tutorial daffy gived, still not working :|
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I suppose it might work for people with certain VC version. There is 1.0 and 1.1 available if I remember correctly.
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It works! thanks kai ;)
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Works for me as well with Kai's/Gavran's explanation, thanks guys this is awesome! :D
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Thanks for thanking me I guess but wasn't it Eddeman who discovered it? :blink:
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^ Good Guy Greg :cc_detective:
Think I got buried in the argument and no one noticed. Should have posted about this method ages ago, but believe it or not I actually forgot about it for a few years since I didn't find out it could be done legit until 2010 or so. Then I went inactive (any stunts you've seen from me are from February 2010 or earlier) and forgot about it again :P
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So now.. how can this be done in a legit way in LC?
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It can't be officially done legit in VC either right, or am I missing something? The whole purpose of the glitch is using the "Car Remembered" function right? :P
Btw I tried out some other bikes yesterday, it totally fucks up the handling :lol: Stoppies work in sanchez as well and when you lean back in any vehicle it's weird as hell.
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It can't be officially done legit in VC either right, or am I missing something? The whole purpose of the glitch is using the "Car Remembered" function right? :P
Eddeman said something about the lovefist pcj mission. Can't be bothered to go a few pages back, sorry :sleep:
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Oh yeah, you are right I remember that. :P Guess there's no legit way to do it in LC then :hmm:
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Just curious is that lovefist mission also the mission where you can remember any car? I heard there is a mission where you can remember packers and stuff aswell so you could actually do 3 vehicle stunts legit.
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http://youtu.be/i-XY75fw7zk (http://youtu.be/i-XY75fw7zk)
1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-XY75fw7zk#)
Cortez mission. Pcj remembered, but nothing about perfect stoppie or RAD.
(Done with default main.scm, without cheats and mods)
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You didn't push it down. It's necessary for you to do that, otherwise it won't work.
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You didn't push it down. It's necessary for you to do that, otherwise it won't work.
lol okay, check it.
That savegame http://www.gamefront.com/files/21506699/GTAVCsf8.b (http://www.gamefront.com/files/21506699/GTAVCsf8.b)
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Plus you are using the wrong bike (unless that bike is supposed to work as well?). You have to use the one from the Love Fist mission.
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YAY GUYS, THAT WORKING
(thanks ｍµｇｅｔｓµ™)
video coming soon. yeah, its legit in vice city!
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Plus you are using the wrong bike (unless that bike is supposed to work as well?). You have to use the one from the Love Fist mission.
with this pcj it already working
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Master Trickster 5000 [WORKING IN DEFAULT VICE CITY] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr6doHq-cck#)
At the end: daffy unmodded in Gazuntei :lol:
Savegame: http://www.sendspace.com/file/kb3uhx (http://www.sendspace.com/file/kb3uhx)
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Haha that's some funky shit :lol:
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HOI BART HOI
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Bart is gemeen, hij heeft mij jaren geleden verwijderd op MSN en hij wilt nog steeds niet meer praten. :cheersad:
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Can you re-upload this mod :x
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Can you re-upload this mod :x
It's not a mod.
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i think it's a modded handling.cfg
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i think it's a modded handling.cfg
It's not modded. This works in all GTA VC and even in VC-MP.
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Can you re-upload this mod :x
http://www.sendspace.com/file/s0e00v (http://www.sendspace.com/file/s0e00v)
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Master Trickster 5000 [WORKING IN DEFAULT VICE CITY] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr6doHq-cck#)
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Xtramus has done a few stunts with this method. it does work.