GTAStunting
General => Community Council => Topic started by: XTO -- on February 14, 2011, 05:39:10 PM
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Can we please add a rule to ban obvious modders who claims to be clean? SharingaN for example
I mean, we obviously can't ban everyone who gets a mod accusation, but seriously, there is an actual section for modded stuff.
cba to write anything else atm, way too tired
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I think that's kind of stupid.
This is a forum and even though it has to do with stunting you can't ban him at a place for communication for modding in a game.
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I think that's kind of stupid.
This is a forum and even though it has to do with stunting you can't ban him at a place for communication for modding in a game.
(http://edjop.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/obama_yes_we_can1.jpg)
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If like his video, all the stunts are obviously modded because the stunts are impossible, he posts it in the un-modded section and he constantly says its clean then i say do it :ajaja:
There will be a lot of people who disagree so this will never happen ^^
He is basically trolling us.
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There will be a lot of people who disagree so this will never happen ^^
He is basically trolling us.
No, the only people who is trolling us again and again is MMM.
Btw cool sig Cookie :lol:
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It doesn't achieve anything, people should just learn to ignore it, given that there's so many people doing it.
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I'm all for it, would teach those fags a lesson.
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lol at SS. It actually change something. This place was way better when you weren't around, I can testify.
I do beleive one person modding without admit it is WAY to much. I can't ignore it just because it's not fair, if I land a stunt I want to be compared with someone who stunt without mods too. Simple as that. If you want to mod, go to the modded section and land awesome shit because, in this section, you can.
Ban modders, and ban SS.
Please :euro:
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Rules suck anyway, they only are there to be implied the wrong way or cause annoying shit situations. You are much better off with a normal sense of what's good and what's not, which everyone has.
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lol at SS. It actually change something. This place was way better when you weren't around, I can testify.
I do beleive one person modding without admit it is WAY to much. I can't ignore it just because it's not fair, if I land a stunt I want to be compared with someone who stunt without mods too. Simple as that. If you want to mod, go to the modded section and land awesome shit because, in this section, you can.
Ban modders, and ban SS.
Please :euro:
You weren't saying that when Tackleberry and Fugitive got found out :o. Tackleberry was even found out for modding again after he admitted it the first time, when he modded that bump to bridge in Techjam. Are you saying because they modded, the forum became a worse place? Or is it just that you follow me into every thread and state I should be banned out of some unjustified hatred for me? Because there's a difference between the two things ;)
The point is that it really makes no difference, banned or not modders will continue making videos, or just switch account and do it all over again (as they do right now). Also, bias is bound to come into play. If people mod, let them mod and be known for modding, it doesn't really matter and if they land your stunts, nobody will care because you can land them clean.
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I know for a fact that this rule will not be accepted, however I sincerely hope it does. Posting modded videos in un-modded section over and over is not "Using common sense" - Rule 5 GTAS.
It is also clear to me that if a stunt first is landed modded, then later unmodded I would NOT be impressed by the stunt, it's basically "old", in the matter of the idea. If somebody landed a stunt I had landed, and he modded it, I sure as hell know I would be furious.
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Of course somebody might get upset if they land a stunt and it gets modded by someone else, hell I was annoyed when Dan stole and modded stuff of mine. But it's not the end of the world, it's only GTA. The majority of people watching your videos (especially on YouTube) wont even care if the stunt is old, it's not something to get up in arms about really :P
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I predict chaos, plague, misery and discord.
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lol at SS. It actually change something. This place was way better when you weren't around, I can testify.
I do beleive one person modding without admit it is WAY to much. I can't ignore it just because it's not fair, if I land a stunt I want to be compared with someone who stunt without mods too. Simple as that. If you want to mod, go to the modded section and land awesome shit because, in this section, you can.
Ban modders, and ban SS.
Please :euro:
You weren't saying that when Tackleberry and Fugitive got found out :o. Tackleberry was even found out for modding again after he admitted it the first time, when he modded that bump to bridge in Techjam. Are you saying because they modded, the forum became a worse place? Or is it just that you follow me into every thread and state I should be banned out of some unjustified hatred for me? Because there's a difference between the two things ;)
The point is that it really makes no difference, banned or not modders will continue making videos, or just switch account and do it all over again (as they do right now). Also, bias is bound to come into play. If people mod, let them mod and be known for modding, it doesn't really matter and if they land your stunts, nobody will care because you can land them clean.
Never heard of that techjam modded stunt, u sure ?
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What bothers me the most about this stuff is that modded vids frequently get much more comments, than well-deserved ones. Mostly, the vids are noticed either if they're done by some well-known good stunter, or if it gets posted in the network crew section. Is it really that hard to resist the temptation to call someone's bluff, more so, when the majority has already done that for you? You're just throwing gasoline on a raging fire, guys. The more you rage at modders, the more it encourages them to continue what they're doing, so do topics like these, just appreciate the quality vids that get posted here & don't feed the trolls.
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Never heard of that techjam modded stunt, u sure ?
Yeah it's that one to the LC bridge near the middle of the video, there was a bit of discussion going on about it. Bob wouldn't send the replay out and things like that, remember quite a few people being suspicious about it. Anyway I don't want to argue about it if that's where you're going :P
EDIT: Yeah at 3:59 it's so obvious, there's even stuff about it being impossible and things in the comments.
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Let's just say that my stand on this is: Not right away.
Yes, intentionally posting a video in the wrong section is against the rules. But there are two questions we must ask ourselves:
1. How can we actually prove beyond any doubt that a video is modded? In my opinion the only thing that clears it up would be the creator admitting it himself. But since there are indeed stubborn people who won't admit even in some cases, we could set a rule about how much comments on a video have to contain accusations in order for a video to be considered modded (I suggest at least 60%).
2. Even if a person is caught modding, should they really get insta-banned? In my opinion, warned. Give them a second, hell, even a THIRD chance. There were some really good examples of ex-modders becoming great stunters. Just look at FloW as an example.
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The fact that somebody continually breaks the rules should be enough to warn, 2nd time a timed ban, 3rd time perhaps a permban.
Of course it's sometimes difficult to see if somebody mods, but Jesus, if people actually stopped looking at the name in stuntvideos and look at the stunts themselves, they would probably be astonished by how weird they look.
I am quite sure if SharingaN's opener from his video had the label "Daffy" instead, NOBODY would say it's modded. (Ok, this might be a bit exaggerated, but you get the idea).
In times like those there can hardly be any doubt whether the stunts are modded or not.
As for those stunts where it's kinda 50 - 50, we can't really do anything, can we?
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lol at SS. It actually change something. This place was way better when you weren't around, I can testify.
I do beleive one person modding without admit it is WAY to much. I can't ignore it just because it's not fair, if I land a stunt I want to be compared with someone who stunt without mods too. Simple as that. If you want to mod, go to the modded section and land awesome shit because, in this section, you can.
Ban modders, and ban SS.
Please :euro:
You weren't saying that when Tackleberry and Fugitive got found out :o. Tackleberry was even found out for modding again after he admitted it the first time, when he modded that bump to bridge in Techjam. Are you saying because they modded, the forum became a worse place? Or is it just that you follow me into every thread and state I should be banned out of some unjustified hatred for me? Because there's a difference between the two things ;)
The point is that it really makes no difference, banned or not modders will continue making videos, or just switch account and do it all over again (as they do right now). Also, bias is bound to come into play. If people mod, let them mod and be known for modding, it doesn't really matter and if they land your stunts, nobody will care because you can land them clean.
You've been unmasked plenty of times before and still you claim to be clean, and to make the story and yourself look even more dumber, you say you stunt with FL on. You have no say in this buddy.
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Whatever you think about me you can't say my replays aren't FL on, just look at my videos genius :lol:. Anyway stop trying to make this about me, you do it all the time and it's not achieving anything ;)
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Let's just say that my stand on this is: Not right away.
Yes, intentionally posting a video in the wrong section is against the rules. But there are two questions we must ask ourselves:
1. How can we actually prove beyond any doubt that a video is modded? In my opinion the only thing that clears it up would be the creator admitting it himself. But since there are indeed stubborn people who won't admit even in some cases, we could set a rule about how much comments on a video have to contain accusations in order for a video to be considered modded (I suggest at least 60%).
2. Even if a person is caught modding, should they really get insta-banned? In my opinion, warned. Give them a second, hell, even a THIRD chance. There were some really good examples of ex-modders becoming great stunters. Just look at FloW as an example.
As I stated in my post, only obvious mods should be banned
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What bothers me the most about this stuff is that modded vids frequently get much more comments, than well-deserved ones.
It's not just for comments count, it's all about their quality and such. I personally try to enjoy my videos at first, then I show them to the community. It doesn't matter if they won't like them. My personal opinion is what should matter. Not saying about some questionable videos, but still some of them are cool.
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Of course it's sometimes difficult to see if somebody mods, but Jesus, if people actually stopped looking at the name in stuntvideos and look at the stunts themselves, they would probably be astonished by how weird they look.
I am quite sure if SharingaN's opener from his video had the label "Daffy" instead, NOBODY would say it's modded. (Ok, this might be a bit exaggerated, but you get the idea).
You're also one of the ones who has floaty stunts. :cc_detective:
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Can you guys stick on-topic, please?
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Of course it's sometimes difficult to see if somebody mods, but Jesus, if people actually stopped looking at the name in stuntvideos and look at the stunts themselves, they would probably be astonished by how weird they look.
I am quite sure if SharingaN's opener from his video had the label "Daffy" instead, NOBODY would say it's modded. (Ok, this might be a bit exaggerated, but you get the idea).
I'd like to quote that and leave Herb's random comment out of this. Sharingan for the BAN! :a-cheer:
*cough*Open your eyes and see that BoxXx mods*cough*
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Can we please add a rule to ban obvious modders who claims to be clean? SharingaN for example
I mean, we obviously can't ban everyone who gets a mod accusation, but seriously, there is an actual section for modded stuff.
cba to write anything else atm, way too tired
lol this same argument was around 7 years ago or so.
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.... Stupid rule. Who wants modded let to modded, who not wants, let to not modded :|
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i agree that we should ban shadowsniper
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hmm well, SharingaN has been here for quite and I see from his new solo that clearly he hasn't changed at all.. So I wouldn't mind that he got a ban.. maybe for few months.. still that just doesn't corrupt his SA .exe and that he would stop modding, so I honestly don't see a point to it..
But I'm still okay with it that he would get a ban :lol:
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a modded vice city video was posted in the unmodded section today
shit just got real!
http://www.gtastunting.net/index.php?topic=52735.0 (http://www.gtastunting.net/index.php?topic=52735.0)
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Can we please add a rule to ban obvious modders who claims to be clean? SharingaN for example
I mean, we obviously can't ban everyone who gets a mod accusation, but seriously, there is an actual section for modded stuff.
cba to write anything else atm, way too tired
lol this same argument was around 7 years ago or so.
And 6... and 5... and 4.... etc.
I'm all for it, sadly the staff (or the rest of the staff back when I was still an admin) is not.
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At least move them to the modded section.