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General => General Discussion => Computer Talk => Topic started by: lilj on August 02, 2010, 01:52:18 PM
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#1140 - HIS HD 5850 iCooler V Turbo 1GB GDDR5 Video Card Video Review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iHf7NmSHUg#ws)
i wanna buy this beast
wat do u guys think
is there a better card with same price ? , does this card give a good performance ?
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Yes, it gives you a good performance. Post the rest of your configuration though, I doubt you have a CPU good enough to make this worth your money.
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in properties it says i have intel core 2 quad
thats dosnt sound promising
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its ati, they have crap drivers but w/e. 256-bit interface, lol.
its decent overall, dont worry about CPU bottleneck, ur cpu will be fine. at larger resolutions tho, this card will shit itself when u turn AA on.
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Define "crap drivers" and also define what's wrong with 256-bit interface? :P
Yeah CPU bottleneck doesn't cause any problems, it's just that you'll get a card with less performance for less money.
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oh yeah awesome
i wanna get new cpu too
wat should i get , i5 or i7 ?
ppl tell me i7 is wast of money
plz tell me was CPU and wat motherboard for it
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You'll probably need a whole new set-up in case you want a new GPU and CPU... If that's the case let me know and I'll try to help you out.
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I has a HD5850 on my laptop. Even on this mobile version I can max out almost all the games I play.
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i7 is a waste of money, depending on which model u buy. 8 threads is useless since no game/program ever uses them all. every smart person turns HT off on their i7, making it a regular quad core and insane OCer.
so go for the i5 quad core, IF its cheaper overall. by overall, i mean mobo + cpu + ddr3. it seems that the i5 cpus arent much cheaper than the i7 cpus. :/ if the price difference is minimal overall, then go for i7 as it will be better futureproofed, as soon as games start taking advantage of HT.
for i5, u need to get 1156 socket mobo + ddr3 ram + i5 cpu
for i7, u need to get 1366 socket mobo + ddr3 ram + i7 cpu
which brand/model of ur mobo/ram/cpu u chose is up to you.
@ Mythic: oh nothing short of shitty drivers include BSODs with crossfire, insane artifacting, terrible CP, broken temp sensors, poor compatability with dx9 games, etc etc. and 256-bit mem interface for a higher mem clock speed and more shaders is quite sad on ati's part. they would be so much ahead if they dropped their ddr5/256 bit shit and used 512 bit. then they wouldnt be suffering with higher resolutions.
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I'd take a i7 from the 1156 socket. 1366 is like the extra high-end one.
And Nvidia isn't "so much ahead". ATi still has the best videocard out there. And driver issues are things people experienced in the 2 or 3 series of cards. They're LONG gone now.
And you know what? Mostly that "driver issue" is sitting infront of the machine and not inside the machine.
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KM :wub:
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no its not in my machine, reports everywhere on forums about 8.1/8.2 drivers being shitty is apparent. its been like 2 years since i had ati tho, maybe its different now. but experiennce defines it: its shit.
btw KM, stop trying to act like a smartass plz. isn't it enough that you got the whole gtas by the balls and sucking ur dick? i have way more than enough computer experience to tell the diff between driver/hardware issue.
"And Nvidia isn't "so much ahead". ATi still has the best videocard out there."
>fanboyfag spotted.
and why would u bother taking an i7 for 1156? the 860 is overpriced and has useless hyperthreading. if ur going to be more price effecient, u'd take i5. unless there is another 1156 i7 that im missing.
oh and, inb4 "taco is nvidia fanboyfag"
i hate nvidia just as much as i hate ati. both of them are shitty manufacturers and have their own faults, but ati is slightly better because of the price/performance ratio.
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I'm not trying to act like a smartass im just telling the truth based on my experience.
No I'm not a 'fanfagboy'. It's just that Nvidia has totally failed with their 400 line of cards in my opinion. Therefore it's better to go with an ATi videocard.
Hyperthreading isn't THAT useless by the way. If you ever had a CPU with hyperthreading you WILL notice the difference in some applications. Yes the 860 is a little overpriced but I'd still go with it if I had the choice.
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with hyperthreading you WILL notice the difference in some applications. Yes the 860 is a little overpriced but I'd still go with it if I had the choice.
Absolutly, GTA4 will run better
I have a I7 920 clocked to 4.2ghz/air with a 1366 x58ud4r mobo from gigabyte and it's not a waste of money, i mean i always play on bad resolutions low settings before i build my own computer. And now all the games are now amazing with kick ass graphics on a 24* 1080p.
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u guys are scaring me with this 'fanfagboy' and driver/hardware issue. :ninja:
so , overall , should i get this card or not :mellow: ?
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[Didn't read all reply]
It only seems like you getting that powerful video card for the sake of it, not because you need it.
Same goes for the CPU.
What kind of games would you want to play ? and are you determined you want max resolution ?
A 5770 might be more than enough.
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@ Mythic: oh nothing short of shitty drivers include BSODs with crossfire, insane artifacting, terrible CP, broken temp sensors, poor compatability with dx9 games, etc etc.
Why isn't this the first time I'm hearing that... And why does every time I hear that later comes this:
its been like 2 years since i had ati tho, maybe its different now.
Yeah. It is. :)
but ati is slightly better because of the price/performance ratio.
Yes, also true.
u guys are scaring me with this 'fanfagboy' and driver/hardware issue. :ninja:
so , overall , should i get this card or not :mellow: ?
It's very unlikely that you'll have to face any driver/hardware issues in case you do everything right when buying a new GPU.
No, you shouldn't get this card. Try ATi Radeon HD 5770 in case you only want to change your GPU. In case you want a whole new PC contact me at MSN when you know your budget.
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I'm not trying to act like a smartass im just telling the truth based on my experience.
No I'm not a 'fanfagboy'. It's just that Nvidia has totally failed with their 400 line of cards in my opinion. Therefore it's better to go with an ATi videocard.
Hyperthreading isn't THAT useless by the way. If you ever had a CPU with hyperthreading you WILL notice the difference in some applications. Yes the 860 is a little overpriced but I'd still go with it if I had the choice.
I've always hated ATi, got this computer, supposed to be an extreme gaming one, seems I can't even play SA at max while I can play at max with my OLD computer. aaand that's a fail of ATi. but this is a pretty fucking old card which is even more retarded. lilj: I have an i7 that was built in so I can't judge if it's a waste of money or not but it plays 1080p fine :rolleyes:
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I've always hated ATi, got this computer, supposed to be an extreme gaming one, seems I can't even play SA at max while I can play at max with my OLD computer. aaand that's a fail of ATi. but this is a pretty fucking old card which is even more retarded. lilj: I have an i7 that was built in so I can't judge if it's a waste of money or not but it plays 1080p fine :rolleyes:
Seriously? Was it EXTREME GAMING PC with big letters? Seriously dude, perhaps it's a lot more helpful telling which card do you have? Huh? Get GPU-Z from here (http://www.filehippo.com/download_gpuz/) and post the screenshot of the main window here.
It's probably your GPU playing the 1080p videos anyway.
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KM, i had 3 i7's in past. I've used a i7 920, i7 930 and an i7 980X. All have HT, and i didn't see any gain in rendering videos, compiling programs and gaming performance increases compared to a PhII 940 and 1095T respectively. turning ht off on all of them increased fps in cod4 by a good 50-70 frames. rendering and compiling shit with ht on or off didnt make any difference, same time overall. im using i7 930 right now as it was the cheapest out of all of them to buy. whats strange was some slowdowns i had with the i7's when rendiring a video for example, it would slow down a few apps. this was not present with any of the AMD's. no, not amd fanboyfag either, im just sad that i siwtched to intel lol.
many games benefit from disabling ht, since almost all games out there today are only optimized for running on 4 or 2 cores (i have yet to see a game take use of all 4 cores). the only thing that may take advantage of HT is ur OS, but even then the increase is minimal. there are a few shitty games that might benefit from it tho, maybe gtaiv, i havent bothered playing that POS on my i7 so Labi try turning ht off and see the performance difference please.
@lilj: the card 5850 is a good buy if u have the money.
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I've always hated ATi, got this computer, supposed to be an extreme gaming one, seems I can't even play SA at max while I can play at max with my OLD computer. aaand that's a fail of ATi. but this is a pretty fucking old card which is even more retarded. lilj: I have an i7 that was built in so I can't judge if it's a waste of money or not but it plays 1080p fine :rolleyes:
Seriously? Was it EXTREME GAMING PC with big letters? Seriously dude, perhaps it's a lot more helpful telling which card do you have? Huh? Get GPU-Z from here (http://www.filehippo.com/download_gpuz/) and post the screenshot of the main window here.
It's probably your GPU playing the 1080p videos anyway.
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2dkalqr.png)
The words were written just like 'Extreme Gaming PC'.. it also says I get Assassin's Creed 2 with it but I didn't get shit.. lying bastards.
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lol @ 128-bit. lets step down to 64-bit while we are at it. suspi has the HD4670 card, which is pretty damn old. this is why you sshould buy ur own parts and put it together yourself. lol, how long ago did u buy this comp suspi?
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Got it for my bday on the 29th of April this year.. told you it's old. I never buy parts because I dunno how to build a computer, have no money and I'm lazy :C
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Then don't bring it out as "ATi sucks" in case you don't know what you're talking about. Do the research every time you buy a new PC or a part to your PC rather than checking out which package has the fanciest EXTREME GAMING texts.
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(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z260/inflamesfighter/Knipsel-1.png)
It works fine.
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lilj's having Radeon HD 4670.
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lilj's having Radeon HD 4670.
:|
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fighter u got crossfire? enable it dood. or is it those 4870x2's?
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I have crossfire.