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Title: Buying a PC
Post by: Genyus on November 03, 2009, 09:38:34 AM
So yeah, I'm planning on buying a new PC as mine is starting to age a bit.

But, I have no idea whats good or what not. Can anyone assist me on this manner?

Preferably something not too expensive and something which could run GTA4 at decent FPS.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: KillaMarci on November 03, 2009, 11:55:21 AM
Budget?
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: brandon6199 on November 03, 2009, 12:56:45 PM
Budget?

This, and will you be using primarily for what? Gaming/Editing/Encoding?
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: Genyus on November 03, 2009, 01:58:47 PM
Gaming, and budget is around 500~800 euros
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: KillaMarci on November 04, 2009, 04:19:14 AM
That'd be a A:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 boxed, 12MB, LGA775, 64bit (be sure its an E0) 200€
ASUS P5Q Deluxe, Sockel 775 Intel P45, ATX  117€
Powercolor HD5850 1024MB GDDR5, PCI-Express 250€
Corsair XMS2 Dominator Xtreme Performance TwinX Matched - Memory - 4 GB 112€
SCYTHE Mugen 2 40€

~~~720€  - Of course you could also go with an i5 build but I doubt you can get such a great GFX card within your budget then..Clock the Q9550 to 4ghz and It'll beat the i5 :P


Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: brandon6199 on November 04, 2009, 06:31:55 PM
That'd be a A:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 boxed, 12MB, LGA775, 64bit (be sure its an E0) 200€
ASUS P5Q Deluxe, Sockel 775 Intel P45, ATX  117€
Powercolor HD5850 1024MB GDDR5, PCI-Express 250€
Corsair XMS2 Dominator Xtreme Performance TwinX Matched - Memory - 4 GB 112€
SCYTHE Mugen 2 40€

~~~720€  - Of course you could also go with an i5 build but I doubt you can get such a great GFX card within your budget then..Clock the Q9550 to 4ghz and It'll beat the i5 :P




I see you keep up-to-date with the new hardware  :ajajaxh5:

I can't really argue with KM. Except you could go with a better cooler, like a Megahalem or maybe a Xigmatek. I have the P5Q Pro which is almost the same as a P5Q Deluxe, and I can tell you from experience that it's a very stable system with lots of tweaking options.

If you can afford it, I would spend the extra cash and get the i5 or i7 system. But that's only if you can afford it.

EDIT: Or overclock the i5 or i7 to 4GHz and leave the Q9550 in the dust  :P
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: KillaMarci on November 06, 2009, 02:44:07 PM
Except you could go with a better cooler, like a Megahalem or maybe a Xigmatek.

(http://img2.abload.de/img/raaaage1erg8.jpg)

The Megahalems is slightly better but it looks crap and is too expensive IMO  :cc_detective:
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: Laketown on November 06, 2009, 11:35:23 PM
Except you could go with a better cooler, like a Megahalem or maybe a Xigmatek.

(http://img2.abload.de/img/raaaage1erg8.jpg)

The Megahalems is slightly better but it looks crap and is too expensive IMO  :cc_detective:

why would you need to look at your computer cooler anyways?
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: tacojoe on November 07, 2009, 05:18:43 AM
that core 2 quad aint gonna run gtaiv on more than 30 fps with higher-settings.
i7 has lately been the best for gtaiv as it can rip 50-60. try going for that, as of now, its to late to go with an old cpu, such as the 9550.
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: Laketown on November 07, 2009, 01:31:59 PM
I also had a question, I have a phenom II x4 or whatever, but I'm getting horrible FPS, is that just my graphics card being bad or is it just a bad processor? :P
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: KillaMarci on November 07, 2009, 04:48:58 PM
The Phenom II X4 is really good actually..which one do you have? 955;965 etc.

Guess its just your crappy office card you bought cuz you didn't ask me :P <_<
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: tacojoe on November 07, 2009, 07:06:56 PM
i have the phenom ii 940. it gives an average fps for me of about 20-30 with max settings. sometimes goes down to 15 fps at night. the phenom ii is good, like km said but still not enough (imo) for gtaiv. but then again, gtaiv is poorly optimized so....
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: VaNilla on November 08, 2009, 04:59:23 PM
KillaMarci suggested a very good setup, I have something similar except I use a GTX260 and a Q8200 with stock clocks, and it runs most things on max with more than 30fps. I can also record IV with 30fps at max using this system, I would get what KM suggested.
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: Genyus on November 09, 2009, 10:13:34 AM
Sounds great and welcome back SS.
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: tacojoe on November 09, 2009, 12:14:18 PM
u must oc for good fortune genyus. :P dont keep that shit on stock if u planning on buying. my oc resulted in about a 8-9 fps gain in gtaiv, moving from 3 to 3.6 ghz. so it helps, quite a lot.
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: boxXx on November 09, 2009, 12:55:58 PM
if i were you i'd spent those couple of extra penny's to get yourself a proper Core i5 instead of the Core 2 Quad series, why would you want to OC your Cpu THAT BAD if you could get a Core i5 build for just 50 euro more which is 25% faster, and also the chance that you WILL be able to oc that high is pretty much NON since them cpu's are friggin hot heads.

A fine listen to km he seems to be TEH PRO lately, i dont wanna be blamed for not giving good advice again...
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: Genyus on November 09, 2009, 01:08:56 PM
Any advice is welcome man, especially since I know fuck all about PCs.
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: Radioaktive on November 15, 2009, 12:16:58 PM
Get the best you can for your budget.
Make sure you video card has the highest bandwidth you can afford.
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: Labiloute on November 15, 2009, 01:28:34 PM
Go for i5 or i7

take a look on my iv bench, every settings maxed out  :wub:

Statistiques
Moyenne images/sec. : 64.63
Durée: 37.18 sec
Utilisation processeur : 31%
Utilisation mémoire système : 72%
Utilisation mémoire vidéo : 47%

Paramètres graphiques
Mode d'affichage: 1920 x 1080 (60 Hz)
Qualité textures: Elevé
Qualité Filtre Textures: Max.
Profondeur de champ: 100
Distance détails: 100

Matériel
Microsoft Windows 7 Professionnel
Microsoft Windows 7 Professionnel
Carte graphique : ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
Version des pilotes de carte graphique : 8.14.10.700
Contrôleur audio : Haut-parleurs (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Intel® Core™ i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz

ID Fichier : Benchmark.cli
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: XTO -- on November 15, 2009, 03:46:54 PM
That'd be a A:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 boxed, 12MB, LGA775, 64bit (be sure its an E0) 200€
ASUS P5Q Deluxe, Sockel 775 Intel P45, ATX  117€
Powercolor HD5850 1024MB GDDR5, PCI-Express 250€
Corsair XMS2 Dominator Xtreme Performance TwinX Matched - Memory - 4 GB 112€
SCYTHE Mugen 2 40€

~~~720€  - Of course you could also go with an i5 build but I doubt you can get such a great GFX card within your budget then..Clock the Q9550 to 4ghz and It'll beat the i5 :P



If you can save a bit more money, wait for the 5970






FUUUU double post, please delete the previous
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: tacojoe on November 15, 2009, 06:47:53 PM
Go for i5 or i7

take a look on my iv bench, every settings maxed out  :wub:

Statistiques
Moyenne images/sec. : 64.63
Durée: 37.18 sec
Utilisation processeur : 31%
Utilisation mémoire système : 72%
Utilisation mémoire vidéo : 47%

Paramètres graphiques
Mode d'affichage: 1920 x 1080 (60 Hz)
Qualité textures: Elevé
Qualité Filtre Textures: Max.
Profondeur de champ: 100
Distance détails: 100

Matériel
Microsoft Windows 7 Professionnel
Microsoft Windows 7 Professionnel
Carte graphique : ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
Version des pilotes de carte graphique : 8.14.10.700
Contrôleur audio : Haut-parleurs (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Intel® Core™ i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz

ID Fichier : Benchmark.cli

oh my fucking god....
but thats BM. ingame, its usually -20fps than benchamrk.
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: Labiloute on November 16, 2009, 12:45:14 PM
It goes down sometimes at 45 50 but never more.
Title: Re: Buying a PC
Post by: tacojoe on November 16, 2009, 03:15:50 PM
still thats damn good. ocing it will push that fps really high :P
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