GTAStunting
GTA Series => Grand Theft Auto - Vice City => VC World Records => Topic started by: вαℓυ on September 11, 2008, 07:07:23 AM
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Nice work there VenomX. Now we need someone to make something like this for the SA world record section.
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Same thing, just take out the FL-Off thing .
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No I think we should keep that too!
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6. Keep your Frame Limiter ON when attempting new records. This is to ensure continuity within records, as FL-Off has been proven to affect the height/distances you can reach.
bullshit, so all SA records not legit?
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6. Keep your Frame Limiter ON when attempting new records. This is to ensure continuity within records, as FL-Off has been proven to affect the height/distances you can reach.
bullshit, so all SA records not legit?
As you can see this is in the VC WR section...
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6. Keep your Frame Limiter ON when attempting new records. This is to ensure continuity within records, as FL-Off has been proven to affect the height/distances you can reach.
bullshit, so all SA records not legit?
As you can see this is in the VC WR section...
anyway, i made topic about fl off, and nobody didn't prove fl off is modding, so why not?
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FUCK IT! SA nee dto stunt with FL ON!!!! good or bad pc, then you have a problem
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FUCK IT! SA nee dto stunt with FL OFF!!!! good or bad pc, then you have a problem
so, VC need stunt with fl off too
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6. Keep your Frame Limiter ON when attempting new records. This is to ensure continuity within records, as FL-Off has been proven to affect the height/distances you can reach.
bullshit, so all SA records not legit?
As you can see this is in the VC WR section...
anyway, i made topic about fl off, and nobody didn't prove fl off is modding, so why not?
A basic condition for having World Records would be to ensure fairness. By allowing FL off it wouldn't be fair at all, so using FL on as a rule is inevitable in my opinion.
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FUCK IT! SA nee dto stunt with FL ON!!!! good or bad pc, then you have a problem
so, VC need stunt with fl off too
wrong ol I mean you to stunt with FL on of course
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6. Keep your Frame Limiter ON when attempting new records. This is to ensure continuity within records, as FL-Off has been proven to affect the height/distances you can reach.
bullshit, so all SA records not legit?
As you can see this is in the VC WR section...
anyway, i made topic about fl off, and nobody didn't prove fl off is modding, so why not?
A basic condition for having World Records would be to ensure fairness. By allowing FL off it wouldn't be fair at all, so using FL on as a rule is inevitable in my opinion.
1st you opinion suck
2nd it is doesn't change anything
3rd i will say all time what i want, and people must use fl off if they want, because it totaly legit, i don't use it, because it is hard to me stunt with it, but for others it is can help
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Well for one, it surely isn't modding Allbeast. Only an idiot would think that.
And as Tackleberry said, there's significant differences between FL on and off, both can't be allowed to be used in official comparison issues such as the world records.
You can use fl off all you want in your videos, but it can't be allowed to be used in official records.
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1st you opinion suck
2nd it is doesn't change anything
3rd i will say all time what i want, and people must use fl off if they want, because it totaly legit, i don't use it, because it is hard to me stunt with it, but for others it is can help
I lol'd xD
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Well for one, it surely isn't modding Allbeast. Only an idiot would think that.
And as Tackleberry said, there's significant differences between FL on and off, both can't be allowed to be used in official comparison issues such as the world records.
You can use fl off all you want in your videos, but it can't be allowed to be used in official records.
so why all sa records is fl off? in sa fl off make same thing, like in vc, so why not again?
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Well for one, it surely isn't modding Allbeast. Only an idiot would think that.
And as Tackleberry said, there's significant differences between FL on and off, both can't be allowed to be used in official comparison issues such as the world records.
You can use fl off all you want in your videos, but it can't be allowed to be used in official records.
so why all sa records is fl off? in sa fl off make same thing, like in vc, so why not again?
If I would be moderating the SA WR section all of the fl-off records would be deleted.
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Well for one, it surely isn't modding Allbeast. Only an idiot would think that.
And as Tackleberry said, there's significant differences between FL on and off, both can't be allowed to be used in official comparison issues such as the world records.
You can use fl off all you want in your videos, but it can't be allowed to be used in official records.
so why all sa records is fl off? in sa fl off make same thing, like in vc, so why not again?
That's an issue of the SA stunters. I don't really care much about SA stuff, so I won't stick my nose in their business, but I do care about VC. And besides, there's a difference, SA is a lot more demanding than VC is, some people just can't play the game without having the framelimiter off.
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All(Beast), I don't care enough about the World Records to discuss this much further with you, but do you intend to be naive and perverse? Every discussion I see with you it seems like you don't even try to listen, just keep posting the same thing over and over again.
Having the rule is the best way to make it fair for as many people as possible.
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you are Fl on stunters, we (Sa stunters for sure) are mostly Fl off stunters
sa isn't vc :|
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gta3, vice city and san andreas have one engine. And I wont listen stupid words, because nobody can prove fl off is not legit for WR
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And you can't prove it IS legit. So shush.
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It's proven matey, didn't somebody make a list of the differences between 30fps, 60fps, 120fps and so on? Daksad maybe?
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yeah for sa
i think if you gonna change name for "GTAS Records" its gonna be not legit as hell
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allbeast, youre fucking annoying... stfu pls
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Well for one, it surely isn't modding Allbeast. Only an idiot would think that.
And as Tackleberry said, there's significant differences between FL on and off, both can't be allowed to be used in official comparison issues such as the world records.
You can use fl off all you want in your videos, but it can't be allowed to be used in official records.
so why all sa records is fl off? in sa fl off make same thing, like in vc, so why not again?
Else VC will become as ridiculous as SA got if you want a stupid answer, you got one but which is in fact true.
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too late FLON for SA cuz evryone use it =(
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default game have fl off, so it is legit, now noobs prove that's not legit, i don't say it is good, i just want say let's look to vc and sa same, or say fl off in both game bad or good
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It may be legit in the game, but it is not legit when it comes to vc/lc stunting. It decreases the gravity and other shit.
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It may be legit in the game, but it is not legit when it comes to vc/lc stunting. It decreases the gravity and other shit.
stunting it is using default game, so you not right
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Then use your fucking fl off thing. Stunt with a lowered gravity, I don't give a shit. I'm telling you that FL off decreases the gravity meaning it's modding. It's like using gravity mod.
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All, FL Off in SA does not make anywhere as much of a differnce as it does for VC. Hell of alot of SA stunters these days know that theres no difference between 80fps to say 300 in SA. Where as VC has shown alot noticable difference. There different games, just because thier both GTA's doesnt mean the same rules should apply.
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for Crazy it is not change gravity, and grav mod work with another method, so fuck off
for Dan gta3, vice city and gta sa it is one engine, anyway SA stunter use fl off, you think they can make that stunts with fl on? i don't think so, that's why i saying why not using in vice city fl off?
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Of course they can make them FL On, and its not one engine. If its one engine why are the physics different in each of the games.
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You just keep going around the fail circle over and over again.
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You just keep going around the fail circle over and over again.
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
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allbeast, youre fucking annoying... stfu pls
FUCKING AMEN BROTHER!
All(Beast) GTFO!!!
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Of course they can make them FL On, and its not one engine. If its one engine why are the physics different in each of the games.
it is one engine RendeWare, and if they can make that stunts with fl on, why then they make it with fl off?
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Of course they can make them FL On, and its not one engine. If its one engine why are the physics different in each of the games.
They're the same, just minor modifications.
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Of course they can make them FL On, and its not one engine. If its one engine why are the physics different in each of the games.
it is one engine RendeWare, and if they can make that stunts with fl on, why then they make it with fl off?
FL off it alot more smoother in SA imo, I use vsync on anyway so Im limited to 60fps. It just looks/feels alot better to play in rather than the almost laggy 25. FL off in VC is iratic and heavily messes up the reps.
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Of course they can make them FL On, and its not one engine. If its one engine why are the physics different in each of the games.
it is one engine RendeWare, and if they can make that stunts with fl on, why then they make it with fl off?
FL off it alot more smoother in SA imo, I use vsync on anyway so Im limited to 60fps. It just looks/feels alot better to play in rather than the almost laggy 25. FL off in VC is iratic and heavily messes up the reps.
fl off doesn't make anything with my replays in vice city, if you want normal speed, just fraps with fl off, but anyway it is hard to me stunt with it, but not for all stunters, i know much more than many stunters on this forum, and 99% of stunters stupid bitches, because they brain never understand what right and what not, FUCK STUNTING, STUNTING MUST DIE
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i know much more than many stunters on this forum, and 99% of stunters stupid bitches, because they brain never understand what right and what not, FUCK STUNTING, STUNTING MUST DIE
Fuck you, you ignorant cunt. Calling all of us stupid, we actually read what you are fucking posting, you clearly don't read what we write, your a fucking broken record saying the sae shit over and over again. I doubt you know more than any of us you stupid fuck, go fucking die.
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7. Post your own records. You may not post records for banned/suspended members, or people that are not a member of this forum. If you want a record, post it yourself!
Yet I saw that "Eva" is holding the Taxi height record...
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go kill yourself
(to beast)
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All(Beast):
The difference between SA and VC is basically this, if you stunt with FL-off in Vice City you will have a replay with a lot of different speeds as your FPS will vary.
While in San Andreas the replays are in a way down-converted to 25fps regardless of what fps you had when you performed the stunt.
This technical obstacle makes it very hard to make a good looking video where the stunts have been done with Frame Limiter off in VC rather than SA and this is FL-off stunting probably won't be accepted in Vice City.
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fraps videos with fl off in vice city and it will have stabile fps
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All(Beast) is a fucking idiot... even if he WAS right, (which he clearly isn't), this isn't the place to talk about it!
moron
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All(Beast) is a fucking idiot... even if he WAS right, (which he clearly isn't), this isn't the place to talk about it!
moron
i'm right, who proved i'm not right? and stunting will die, it is die, because noobs like you can't understand simple things
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So I was trying some things today and I found there isnt much different only the RAD and stuff like that:
I installed boXx's moo challenge and im gonna try it with FL-OFF
here are soem results you can see, I just got alot of heigth which BK, Cdarmy got without FL - OFF so you can see the difference:
my conclusion: FL OFF MEANS = EASY RADDING! and you bike is flying around lol
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nah, YOU cant understand that youre fighting against whole GTAS what basicly means you already lost
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fraps videos with fl off in vice city and it will have stabile fps
No it won't.
The only way to make FL-off look like FL-on is to enable Vertical Sync so the FPS is limited to 60 FPS.
The clip you record will run in half speed so you can open it in VirtualDub and use the Frame Rate Conversion future and select "Process every other frame" and set the source FPS to 60.
The will then have 30 FPS and look like it's FL-on as every 2nd frame is skipped, except you'll be able to tell it's FL-off since the bike isn't shaking when you're RAD-ing anymore.
The only reason i'm posting this method is not so people can take advantage of it and start using FL-off, it's so people would know what to look after to see if it was done with FL-off or not.
Here's a example, it looks like FL-on except the bump is way more powerful than anything you'd get with FL-on bumping like that and the bike isn't shaking during the RAD-ing.
http://rapidshare.com/files/144504116/w00t.avi (http://rapidshare.com/files/144504116/w00t.avi)
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Daffy, but SA stunters use fl off for make bigger bumps, without fl off they can't make that high and long distance bumps, so why in VC we must not use fl off for make bigger bumps?
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All(Beast) is a fucking idiot... even if he WAS right, (which he clearly isn't), this isn't the place to talk about it!
moron
i'm right, who proved i'm not right? and stunting will die, it is die, because noobs like you can't understand simple things
Alright you little shit. First of all, everyone has proved you wrong on these forums. You think one little retard like yourself is going to change the history of stunting because you think you're right? If you can't learn to deal with the fact that frame limiter off is considered to be modding, then maybe you should just leave. You can argue all you want, but your opinion doesn't even matter. So you can stunt, big whoop, but haven't you noticed that you have no respect at all on these forums? Just stop arguing, because you'll never win. Shut your pie hole or you're just going to end up getting banned.
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Edit: What Rocka said. Please don't post in here any more.
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Awesome bump DAFFY!
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Daffy, but SA stunters use fl off for make bigger bumps, without fl off they can't make that high and long distance bumps, so why in VC we must not use fl off for make bigger bumps?
1. What i just mentioned about the replay system.
2. The community isn't ready for it, everyone would just use it to land stunts that's possible with FL-on instead of looking at the new possibilities FL-off would give them.
3. Whenever stunting evolves it's because a new method is discovered, there are more methods to be discovered and mastered but if we start using FL-off we just skip the creative part of how stunting evolves, it's basically a shortcut for the lazy ones.
Awesome bump DAFFY!
Dude, it was done with FL-off on the 2nd attempt.
Land it with FL-on and it'd be awesome
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2. The community isn't ready for it
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All(Beast) you are a complete waste of time lol
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And i'm so far the only one able to discuss this in a reasonable fashion...
I'll let people get their hatred out and then clean the thread for flaming.
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And i'm so far the only one able to discuss this in a reasonable fashion...
I'll let people get their hatred out and then clean the thread for flaming.
thanks to you
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And i'm so far the only one able to discuss this in a reasonable fashion...
I'll let people get their hatred out and then clean the thread for flaming.
I discussed the replay part in one of my reply's to his FL off topic.
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And i'm so far the only one able to discuss this in a reasonable fashion...
I'll let people get their hatred out and then clean the thread for flaming.
How exactly does one stay patient when someone else doesn't listen? We gave him the facts before, we've said what you've said, and he comes back and says the same stuff, disregarding what the rest of the community has to say. Makes sense, no?
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And i'm so far the only one able to discuss this in a reasonable fashion...
I'll let people get their hatred out and then clean the thread for flaming.
How exactly does one stay patient when someone else doesn't listen? We gave him the facts before, we've said what you've said, and he comes back and says the same stuff, disregarding what the rest of the community has to say. Makes sense, no?
i say again, i just want one thing, stunters must look to vc and sa same, and say fl off bad or good, i don't want anything more, i'm with fl on in both games
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WHY do we have to do the same exact thing for both games? They're separate titles, at NO point has the rule 'what goes for one, goes for the other' been enforced by anyone.
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I discussed the replay part in one of my reply's to his FL off topic.
Which i did several months ago... if you're after credits for pointing it out
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WHY do we have to do the same exact thing for both games? They're separate titles, at NO point has the rule 'what goes for one, goes for the other' been enforced by anyone.
because both games have one engine
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And? They clearly don't work in the same way, I'm sure a well established stunter as yourself knows that.
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And? They clearly don't work in the same way, I'm sure a well established stunter as yourself knows that.
they work same, look for game structure, it is same, i know modding better of all stunters on this forum, so don't tell me how games work
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I discussed the replay part in one of my reply's to his FL off topic.
Which i did several months ago... if you're after credits for pointing it out
Not looking for credits just saying.
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just give up all beast, ur not going to wint his argument imo.
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they work same, look for game structure, it is same, i know modding better of all stunters on this forum, so don't tell me how games work
The physics aren't the same dude, example: why do you automatically slow down when you grind in SA but not VC?
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Good idea posting the topic VenomX, definitely worth it for clearly establishing a decent, fair and consistent set of guidelines (which yours all are).
[Perhaps its almost worth considering deleting all posts except for first, and closing the topic, if the crap keeps continuing.]
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Or splitting it into the views one and 'WR Discussion' or something. Views?
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they work same, look for game structure, it is same, i know modding better of all stunters on this forum, so don't tell me how games work
The physics aren't the same dude, example: why do you automatically slow down when you grind in SA but not VC?
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i know in SA physic have differents, but that have nothing with fl off, fl off give us time, we press button in fl off and it is pressing like turbo, and we can do perfect RAD
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Well then how come normal grinds are possible in SAiVC using the SA PCJ model?
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Well then how come normal grinds are possible in SAiVC using the SA PCJ model?
that's why it is hard talking with you guys, you don't know modding, sa have much more matterials, which not have vc, and grind on different materials is different
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And? They clearly don't work in the same way, I'm sure a well established stunter as yourself knows that.
they work same, look for game structure, it is same, i know modding better of all stunters on this forum, so don't tell me how games work
You have been stunting for what? A year? There's guys here that have been around since 2004. Don't tell them how these games work.
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all(beast) just leave stop embarassing yoourself
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Come on, let's discuss this on a reasonable level please.
You gotta give it to him that he knows how the games are built pretty well, just look at the new sky mod he made.
He might be right but i'd like to see videos where Frame Limiter was kept on for the sake of tradition.
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And? They clearly don't work in the same way, I'm sure a well established stunter as yourself knows that.
they work same, look for game structure, it is same, i know modding better of all stunters on this forum, so don't tell me how games work
You have been stunting for what? A year? There's guys here that have been around since 2004. Don't tell them how these games work.
i begin modding in 2003, and who win, anyway it just stupid say something about how long you in stunting, because many new members stunt better than olders
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Doesn't make them know the game better on the inside.
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stunting isn't a competition. you know what all? how about you go to your little hut in your little village. and you stunt fl off and you make a video. and you post it in the un-modded section. and neo moves it to the modded section. then we flame you. then you attempt to flame us yet fail epically. then we all have a good laugh over a glass of lemonade. how's that sond? doe that make you happy? everyone wins! :cool:
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stunting isn't a competition. you know what all? how about you go to your little hut in your little village. and you stunt fl off and you make a video. and you post it in the un-modded section. and neo moves it to the modded section. then we flame you. then you attempt to flame us yet fail epically. then we all have a good laugh over a glass of lemonade. how's that sond? doe that make you happy? everyone wins! :cool:
i'm left stunting if you not know
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if you left stunting if i not know then why you care? honestly it doesn't even pertain to you.
read thias slowly. i used your hip lingo style.
if you left stunting if i not know then why you care?
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if you left stunting if i not know then why you care? honestly it doesn't even pertain to you.
read thias slowly. i used your hip lingo style.
if you left stunting if i not know then why you care?
i care, because new members when they make videos, they use fl off in vc, and when they post videos people say that bad, i dislike it, it make me crazy, that's stupid thing what i ever heard, anyway stunters must make choose or stunt only with fl on in both game, or say fl off in vice city it is good, and have no dofferents with sa, other things is stupid, i'm know thinking what will be with GTA IV on PC
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stunters must make choose or stunt only with fl on in both game, or say fl off in vice city it is good, and have no dofferents with sa
And who are you to decide that? Stunters have been doing it their own way for five years, just because you are telling them to change, it doesn't mean they're going to.
Stunting will eventually evolve to the point where a changeover is necessary, and this will be a gradual process happening over time. Its not a case of saying 'stunt only with fl off in both game', that wont make people do it. This time isn't here yet, but when it arrives we'll be sure to let you know.
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yeah. we'll send you a post card. i can just type queer in the recipients adress. it should find its way. why do both games need to be teh same? because you have to boys for kids do they both need to be mamed john??
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Bottom line is that they are two separate games. Some aspects may be similar, and some aspects may be different. In the case of FL-off/FL-on, they are different.
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Bottom line is that they are two separate games. Some aspects may be similar, and some aspects may be different. In the case of FL-off/FL-on, they are different.
ohohoh, god of modding said his word
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I support FL Off and On in both games. I support modding in both games. I support 640x800 and 1600x1200 in both games. You stunt in whatever style you use, and I'll stunt with whatever I style I use. A community should not be divided on stupid things like that. When you scratch everything off at the end, We are stunters, nothing more, nothing less.
I sound preachy...
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And these guidelines set up a fair and impartial system which provides a way for any stunter (who wishes to) to have a chance to get a record.
Any serious discussion about SA is irrelevant here, as this is a set of guidelines for Vice City only.
Any serious discussion about Modded/Unmodded videos is irrelevant here, because this has nothing to do with stunt videos.
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7. Post your own records. You may not post records for banned/suspended members, or people that are not a member of this forum. If you want a record, post it yourself!
Yet I saw that "Eva" is holding the Taxi height record...
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Yeah, it seriously sucks after seeing she modded in LC pcj600 height.. now I don't trust her anymore
Oh and the list is pretty outdated, maybe 5 that needs to be updated or something, I'll do it ASAIFLI; as soon as I feel like it
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About that, incase you weren't aware RedX:
Eva = AtenShun
Also, both accounts were banned at the time the record was posted. It was posted by Turtle Boy. Already broke a couple rules there.
It's your call when it comes to the decisions with the list.
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It's easy. If in San Andreas FL OFF is allowed, then MUST be FL OFF allowed in Vice City aswell. Seriously, I can't here it anymore. The main argument of main-vc stunters is, that FL OFF shouldn't be allowed in Vice City, is that the whole replay looks floaty, that it's not fair anymore and that "SA and VC" are not the same.
The simly and easy to understanding truth is, that the FL OFF effect, that's FL OFF stunters could reach easily higher roofs then FL ON stunters, IS IN BOTH GAMES THE SAME. Don't complain or whine about this. It's fact and you will just fail if you say that's it not like this.
There are only two possibilities. Allowing in both lists, sa as vc, ONLY FL ON stunts ... or allowing FL OFF in the VC List finaly too. The argument that the effect in VC is much bigger doesn't count anymore, not these days.
So to the guys who are still sitting with an angry face on their chairs: accept it. It is just that, exactly that, easy.
i'm very glad to see on forum some clever stunters
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It's easy. If in San Andreas FL OFF is allowed, then MUST be FL OFF allowed in Vice City aswell. Seriously, I can't here it anymore. The main argument of main-vc stunters is, that FL OFF shouldn't be allowed in Vice City, is that the whole replay looks floaty, that it's not fair anymore and that "SA and VC" are not the same.
The simly and easy to understanding truth is, that the FL OFF effect, that's FL OFF stunters could reach easily higher roofs then FL ON stunters, IS IN BOTH GAMES THE SAME. Don't complain or whine about this. It's fact and you will just fail if you say that's it not like this.
There are only two possibilities. Allowing in both lists, sa as vc, ONLY FL ON stunts ... or allowing FL OFF in the VC List finaly too. The argument that the effect in VC is much bigger doesn't count anymore, not these days.
So to the guys who are still sitting with an angry face on their chairs: accept it. It is just that, exactly that, easy.
FL off in SA does not make no where near as much as a difference as it does in VC. Why are you to arogant to not understand this? Many stunters, Juan for example have gone a low fps to a higher one in SA and not noticed any difference. I recently switched to vsync on and of course no difference for me aswell. VC has been proven to make a major difference with FPS, check some of the responses from daffy. The reason why FPS in SA seems to is because people are using the FL shit to mod stunts and blame there FPS. Some very famous stunters have done this but Im not here to name names.
Understand, just because there both GTA doesnt mean the same rules should apply. This is the VC section, VenomX has made the rules. Learn to deal with it and if theres still a problem about FPS in SA start a dam topic in the SA section rather than fill this topic with your bullshit, non evidence responses.
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I don't understand what you meant, ColdDeath. I don't understand the arguments and not really what youre opinion is either.
What some people don't seem to understand is that it's about tradition. Should we change something we've always been doing, just so SA and VC would be played more similar? I don't see any logic at all in that. Also, have you ever thought about why some stunters prefer VC instead of SA (or the other way around)? It's because they are different.
Now, All(Beast), please reply with something else than saying that my opinion suck.
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Probably everyone who's like "Delete the SA FL-off WR's, it's for noobs" in this topic uses it the most..
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i saying again 99% of stunters stupid bitches, they nothing in his life, and they suck dicks, nobody of them can't prove anything and will never prove, because i know, only i'm right, others noobs my suck and listen to me what i'm saying, this forum and stunting must die
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Dude if you think stunting must die. Get the fucking fuck off gtastunting.net, Seriously some people still enjoy it and no one is ever going to listen to you.
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Dude if you think stunting must die. Get the fucking fuck off gtastunting.net, Seriously some people still enjoy it and no one is ever going to listen to you.
no, i will fuck stunters brain, maybe then they will understand, because looks they don't go to school and only suck at they's computers and make stunts
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Since when has the argument of stunting have anything to do with school Your posts do make me laugh
Enough spam, Allfag as right as you think you are, the descision isnt yours. So learn to accept the rules which are placed.
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Not everybody spends 3 weeks on a stunt
Edit: Puzzle shut the fuck up, what an asshole comment. Hope you get warn for that
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Dude if you think stunting must die. Get the fucking fuck off gtastunting.net, Seriously some people still enjoy it and no one is ever going to listen to you.
no, i will fuck stunters brain, maybe then they will understand, because looks they don't go to school and only suck at they's computers and make stunts
Wow, I just came home from school and I think your opinions wrong. what do you say to that?
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Dude if you think stunting must die. Get the fucking fuck off gtastunting.net, Seriously some people still enjoy it and no one is ever going to listen to you.
no, i will fuck stunters brain, maybe then they will understand, because looks they don't go to school and only suck at they's computers and make stunts
Wow, I just came home from school and I think your opinions wrong. what do you say to that?
maybe you going to school and sleep there, and i didn't say all stunters stupid bithces, who not going to school and don't know anything
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i saying again 99% of stunters stupid bitches, they nothing in his life, and they suck dicks, nobody of them can't prove anything and will never prove, because i know, only i'm right, others noobs my suck and listen to me what i'm saying, this forum and stunting must die
Ya know I was just starting to forget about your previous bullshit and you go and run your damn mouth
Your attitude sucks. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
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Ok, so if someone disagrees with you, they are automatically stupid? That's like a copout argument, like
"I like chocolate better than vanilla"
"but vanilla is so much better!"
"omg your stupid for thinking that"
and if I DID sleep at school, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be tired right now.
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i saying again 99% of stunters stupid bitches, they nothing in his life, and they suck dicks, nobody of them can't prove anything and will never prove, because i know, only i'm right, others noobs my suck and listen to me what i'm saying, this forum and stunting must die
Ya know I was just starting to forget about your previous bullshit and you go and run your damn mouth
Your attitude sucks. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
i'm normal man, but when people can't understand simple things, it is make me crazy
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this video say all
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qcEMO4Mm1bc (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qcEMO4Mm1bc)
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Unless I'm not getting something right, I think you just proved yourself wrong by showing us that video?
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if it is allowed in sa, then it must be allowed in vc aswell.
If it's illegal in VC it must be illegal in SA as well!
Since VC came first and is cooler and better
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I don't understand what you meant, ColdDeath. I don't understand the arguments and not really what youre opinion is either.
What I've meant, was that if in sa fl off world records are allowed, the same must go for vc world records. In both games you can reach higher roofs because of fl off. And this effect, Dan, is real. People like KM, Taz, boxxx, and so on ... can reach higher and higher roofs. For example the new so called taxxx videos. Look them up, that is not possible with fl on. And their stunts and of other FL OFF stunters are going higher and higher. Therefore is has absolutly no sense to allow it in sa ... and not allowing it at the same in vc.
And by the way ... I am not for the option to allow it in vc. I just say, if it is allowed in sa, then it must be allowed in vc aswell.
I fail to see how a discussion about the VC World Records depends on SA stunting...
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this video say all
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qcEMO4Mm1bc (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qcEMO4Mm1bc)
Dude, you just failed 2:40
FL-ON is a lot harder than FL-OFF in VC , dont know about SA . It makes a big difference on the physics aspect , that's why it shouldn't be changed
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I don't understand what you meant, ColdDeath. I don't understand the arguments and not really what youre opinion is either.
What I've meant, was that if in sa fl off world records are allowed, the same must go for vc world records. In both games you can reach higher roofs because of fl off. And this effect, Dan, is real. People like KM, Taz, boxxx, and so on ... can reach higher and higher roofs. For example the new so called taxxx videos. Look them up, that is not possible with fl on. And their stunts and of other FL OFF stunters are going higher and higher. Therefore is has absolutly no sense to allow it in sa ... and not allowing it at the same in vc.
And by the way ... I am not for the option to allow it in vc. I just say, if it is allowed in sa, then it must be allowed in vc aswell.
Alot of the stunts in the Tax Videos are possible with say, 60 fps as opposed to 300fps. Some may be impossible with 25 as once you reach around 70/80 fps you have reached the limit. Someone recenetly took some results of different FPS on LS airport ramps of the height and distance and there was neligable difference in them. Fl off in SA is only effecting the smoothness of the game and thus radding is easier which gainsslightly more speed. It does not affect gravity. However once this reaches 70/80 you near enough have your limit and the game can not run any smoother. I am so sure of this and alot of other people belive this. Also it isnt just the stunters you listed, many other people are going higher because they have the FPS excuse to mod stunts. They feel safe because people like you don't understand that there is not much of a difference.
But Like I said, this is the VC section the rules have been set. They do not have to apply for the SA section. Someone else can sort them out.
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RULES THAT COUNT IN VC COUNT THERE, AND NOT IN SA. NOW SHUT UP ABOUT SA NEEDING THE SAME, THIS IS FUCKING VC. LETS JUST KEEP IT AS IT IS OKAY? IT WONT CHANGE ANYWAYS.
Some people here really are retarded.
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My oppinion on this evolves all around RAD's.. In SA you can get teh easy RAD's with FL ON and FL OFF, but in VC you cant.. FL ON Radding actually requires skill
FL ON
(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4692/340uv6ni8.gif) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/340uv6ni8.gif/1/w640.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img87/340uv6ni8.gif/1/)
FL OFF
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2659/360pw9.gif) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/360pw9.gif/1/w640.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img98/360pw9.gif/1/)
What im trying to say is.. Im cool with people using FL OFF in Vice City
As long as they dont use RAD's method because that is just total h4x compared with FL ON in Vice City.
And this is the only difference from SA!!!!!!
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I fail to see how a discussion about the VC World Records depends on SA stunting...
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FL-on is much cooler both games i mean if Taz is really that good then he must can amaze us with Fl-on too.. i mean.. about that higher and higher thing.. it is getting boring.. when do these stunters (the high air ones) show more creativity ? if i watch SA videos i mostly like then medium videos best.. or the ownage creative ones.. that high air thinks dont amaze me anymore when i watch vids like that (SA) i think like.. yeah sure.. ill go watch another.. why dont leave it as it is and lets stunters choose between SA and VC ..i just love that diffrence.. if both where the same.. i think if VC was fl-off allowed too i stopped stunting because all fun would be flushed away...
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Ok, so if someone disagrees with you, they are automatically stupid? That's like a copout argument, like
"I like chocolate better than vanilla"
"but vanilla is so much better!"
"omg your stupid for thinking that"
and if I DID sleep at school, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be tired right now.
Unforunitly, Sweet, this is how the entire world works.
My oppinion on this evolves all around RAD's.. In SA you can get teh easy RAD's with FL ON and FL OFF, but in VC you cant.. FL ON Radding actually requires skill
FL ON
(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4692/340uv6ni8.gif)
FL OFF
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2659/360pw9.gif)
What im trying to say is.. Im cool with people using FL OFF in Vice City
As long as they dont use RAD's method because that is just total h4x compared with FL ON in Vice City.
And this is the only difference from SA!!!!!!
Yeah, and the chances that you did the exact same bump are so remote that I can turn my TV Off with it.
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Its boxxxxxxxxx's ramp dude
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besides, look at the stats, there's a pretty big difference
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Question for an OLD stunter (stunting time)
For how long do u think stunting in GTA (VC,SA,LC,IV) will last?
i saying again 99% of stunters stupid bitches, they nothing in his life, and they suck dicks, nobody of them can't prove anything and will never prove, because i know, only i'm right, others noobs my suck and listen to me what i'm saying, this forum and stunting must die
Ya know I was just starting to forget about your previous bullshit and you go and run your damn mouth
Your attitude sucks. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
i'm normal man, but when people can't understand simple things, it is make me crazy
Well please keep from saying people suck dick or they're stupid bitches or the forums must die. I mean your allowed to have your opinion here but lashing out at people is just rude and disrespectful. We're all here to enjoy stunting, not rip people a new asshole ya know?
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Neo won again
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By allowing FL OFF in VC people will just fuck it up like SA and then there will be no good GTA game in which to stunt.
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It's a shame all(beast) is such a douchebag, he honestly has some good points about this whole thing but with the way he acts he will never get somebody on his side. [/quote]
This is my opinion as well.
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Yeah dood, now go wank dood because you know the best dood which will never happen though dood.
Can we keep this fucking topic clean now? Things wont change and better not change. It's fine now as it is. AND NOW STOP SAYING YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE THE BEST AND IT SHOULD BE EQUAL, IT WON'T FUCKING HAPPEN.
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fl off fl on this shit will never end ...
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What about closing this shit just as the most of rule topics?
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close this ...
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Instead of closing it, why don't we try some intellegent debating?
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Seconded.
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Instead of closing it, why don't we try some intellegent debating?
Good luck with that
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I agree on not allowing FL-OFF records anymore. But let the people stunt the way the want for fuck's sake. Someone likes to stunt with FL-OFF and someone else likes to stunt with FL-ON. Everybody can do whatever he wants , and release his stunt in his video. Wether the people like the video or not doesn't matter. If someone release's a FL-OFF video you say you don't like it , nothing more , no need to flame that person because he just does what he likes. Maybe he will change when you tell him you don't like it because he want's the people to like it , maybe he doesnt. It just doesn't matter. But for records there need to be straight rules , so that it is fair for everyone in both games.
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I second KM, and I'll re-iterate(Is that the right word?). I say, FL-On should be the only the accepted by the WRs, but, I think that it should be generaly okay for a person to post a FL-Off video in the Un-modded section, because there is nothing modded about it.
Personally, I can't have more than 17 FPS in Little Havanna (on my laptop, which I've been stunting on for 2~ years).
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I totally agree with KillaMarci
Hell, people can stunt with frame limiter on or off in videos for all I care, but for the records, it will be sensible to keep it on. This is merely to ensure continuity within the actual records. Although changing the records to match the SA ones DOES seem a bit over the top, similarities between VC and SA have always existed, and that's why people choose one or the other. Bringing them closer together at this stage isn't really what we want to happen.
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Indeed.
These guidelines have nothing to do with stunt videos: they don't stop anyone from posting stunt videos in which they stunted the way they wanted to - frame limiter on, off, or whatever the heck you want. Nor are they a set of rules determining which stunt videos (or stunts) count as 'modded' or 'unmodded'. They ONLY relate to this section of the forums - single stunts submitted for possible VICE CITY record contention. Yes, the rules may seem too strict to some of you (although they really aren't), but its necessary, to create a fair and impartial system which provides a way for ANY stunter (who wishes to) to have a chance to get a record.
I still cannot figure out why some members see that changes must be made to these rules due to certain rules that exist in the San Andreas WR section - it's a different game, a different system, organised/run by different people.
If you still really do have issues with this, then at least, please, discuss them intelligently, and treat the other members with respect while doing so (AllBeast this does not exclude you - try to contribute positively from now on) - I'm sure if you can manage that, the people in charge will be happy to listen (as VenomX has kept this thread open for that reason).