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Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Samurai on March 05, 2008, 04:54:18 PM
So, my PC is kinda old. about 5 yrs. I had 1 gig of 3200 DDR RAM, and I just put in two new gig sticks to help with many progs. Now my screen is black, there is no boot up and the LED is flashing meaning something is wrong.....Has anyone run into this problem and have it resolved.

I've looked around, and haven't found anything to helpful, other than resetting the CMOS or BIOS.
Is that a manual thing i can do physically, or specifically in the settings menu which i can't reach.

Thanks, and any help would be appreciated as there are a couple million things i cherish to keep on that machine, and a couple of gta projects that have been worked on for a lonnnnnnng time.  

Please only helpful advice posts.
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: godson on March 05, 2008, 04:58:35 PM
Do you have Unbuffered Non-ECC ram or Buffered ECC ram?
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Samurai on March 05, 2008, 05:00:07 PM
Hmm, I don't know. How do I find that out or where would I look?

edit: i hate ppl that talk loud as fuck at the computer lab on campus.... Anyways, I have some exams to study for.


Info about my PC if needed (will update in a day or two)
Intel P4 3 ghz
Aopen mobo (specific model i'll put later, can't remember)
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: godson on March 05, 2008, 05:11:48 PM
Nvm what I just said...Whats the full capacity of ram that your computer can take?  Maybe you put more than it should have since your computer is "old"
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Neo Anderson on March 05, 2008, 05:34:55 PM
Yeah I'd check what Godson said first. Would be surprised if a 5 year old machine could even handle 2 gigs.
You shouldn't have to reset anything after ya add new memory, atleast I have never had to, just shows up as being there. It is DDR Ram you bought right? If you remove the new sticks and put the old one back, does it boot up ok?
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Laketown on March 05, 2008, 06:53:27 PM
From what neo said, if it doesn't, you could have knocked into something while installing the ram, and that's causing it not to work.
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Rok on March 05, 2008, 09:11:20 PM
i dont think 5 years old computers could handle 2GB DDR2 ram
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Brainkiller on March 06, 2008, 02:08:29 AM
Are all the ram sticks exactly the same?

It sounds like you are putting in the two new ones with the old one trying to get 3gb ram, but that wont work unless the ram is the same type  (it isn't so clear )
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: GT-7 on March 06, 2008, 05:41:01 AM
Lol mine computer is 7 years old.
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Samurai on March 06, 2008, 06:22:05 AM
the above post is not helpful at all.....(sry but i want to keep this topic clear of useless posts as i don't have alot of time) and the fact that i'm frustrated as fuck)
Thanks for the suggestions guys.

i have 2 512 sticks of DDR 3200 in atm. I tried putting in 2 1 gig sticks of the same type. Even same brand. As far as i know, my mobo can handle that, but i'll double check.

The speeds are the same, but the sizes are 2 512 , then the 2 1 gigs.

I took them out, and it still won't reboot. I was pretty careful, putting them in.

I'll get some more info when i get time like i said. Anyways, thanks again and back to class
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Rok on March 06, 2008, 06:31:11 AM
Try to boot your comp with just 1GB card
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Samurai on March 06, 2008, 08:46:23 AM
will try that tonight after work sir. Thanks
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Rok on March 06, 2008, 09:12:36 AM
Quote from: Samurai
will try that tonight after work sir. Thanks
No problem. I am very happy to help you Samurai
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Ruchy on March 06, 2008, 10:52:39 AM
My friend is a computer specialist , i'll try to ask him Samurai
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Samurai on March 07, 2008, 06:04:07 AM
Thanks Ruchy.   I would be forever in your debt mate  

well, i tried just the new ram. nope
the old. nope
one stick of the new. nope

Reset the CMOS. nope
Next i think i'll try taking the battery out for a lil bit, and putting it back into the mobo. Friend of mine suggested it.

Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Brainkiller on March 07, 2008, 06:13:45 AM
When you add ram the screen will be black for a longer period of time because the bios is reconfiguring itself for the new ram. I trust you waited longer than 5 seconds? You did unplug the power from the power supply or turned the rocker switch on the PSU to off before you played with the ram? Unless you do that, there is still power to the board when the computer is turned off. People have fried their boards and "saw sparks and heard pops" installing ram in a computer than had power on the board. Look for the J5 jumper on the motherboard. It's tiny and consists of 3 pins with a jumper on the 1-2 pins. With your power unplugged pull the jumper off the 1-2 pins and put it on the 2-3 pins for 15-20 seconds then move it back to the 1-2 pins. Try it with the old ram in only. If you sucessfully boot up then turn puter off unplug the power and pull the old ram out and try it with just the new stick in. If it doesn't boot then you either have a bad stick of ram or a stick that isn't compatible with your board. Some ram is high-density. It has all its chips on one side of the stick. Boards with Intel chipsets do not support high-density ram. If it boots with the new ram in then try adding the old ram. Some computers have 2 ram slots and the computer supports 512MB max with 256 MB per slot. I figure you sw it on crucial that you could run 512 sticks thou. May want to check the motherboards bios page. altho bios is usually upgraded for newer cpus it is sometimes upgraded to solve ram compatibility issues too.If you have been clicking out of startup only after about 5 seconds of black screen then give it more time. May have to go into bios and configure the ram. some boards want you to do that every time you change the ram and, althou, most of the time the bios has the ram configured properly you still have to "exit saving changes". Another possibility is that you bumped the video card while playing with the ram. Make sure its still fully seated at both ends and, if you have PSU power to the card the plug is snug in the connector. More than likely you bought some ram that isn't compatible with your board or your other ram.
When installing ram you should push it in until you clear a click at both ends and the end clips should close and lock the ram into place automatically. You can actually push the ram in and close the end clips by hand when the ram isn't fully seated. Always listen for the 2 clicks when installing a stick of ram.

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Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Samurai on March 07, 2008, 07:47:24 AM
thanks for the post.  

Read up about my mobo. It is able to hold 4 gigs of ram. so that isn't the problem. Anyways, will try out the above post suggestions.

damnshitdouchefuck. /vent
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Brulla on March 07, 2008, 08:07:03 AM
Oh man...pretty wierd that it doesn't work anymore even when you put only the original sticks in.

That's pretty fucked up, hopefully some of these more experienced guys can help you solve it.

*tries to dig around*
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Turtle Boy on March 07, 2008, 08:54:53 AM
This happened to my PC awhile back, I gave up : ( it wasent quite the same scenario but I would recommend taking your IDE out and finding a bros Pc to pop it in and transfer your files. I wish I had something more helpfull to say. But it seems every idea Ive had has been taken. I hope it all works out. : /
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Brulla on March 08, 2008, 12:40:02 AM
Bump.
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Samurai on March 14, 2008, 05:52:04 PM
Thx for everyone's input. After many ups and downs. My PC is running now, with internet connection again!

Notes for those that get new ram.

Of course the same speed and type

Unplug and make sure you put it in firmly till the locks snap, in the right place. Make sure to put them in accordingly for dual channel.

Upon restarting the comp. Load up setup defaults. then it should start up fine.

If you get the black screen like me. Clean the comp, make sure everything is plugged in snug and nothing is fried. CHECK UR BIOS.

Next I'd suggest unplugging and making sure there is no static involved on the surface you're working on. Reset the CMOS. (Just lifting and resetting some pins)

Also, you can take out the battery, leave it out for a minute or two, or more. and stick it back in.

Hopefully it starts up fine. Load up the default setttings is important.

Again thx !
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: godson on March 14, 2008, 06:21:52 PM
Great to hear man
Title: Anyone have black screen after new RAM
Post by: Brulla on March 15, 2008, 02:42:54 AM
Excellent news. Good thing nothing got fried.
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