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Stunt Crew Network => Zero Signal => Hall Of Fame => [ZS] Chat & News => Topic started by: MisguidedAngel on March 18, 2007, 05:17:25 PM
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Oh lord, I took time away from the precious "New ZS" topic, this automatically means I'm going to be the objext of hatred of some. Give it time ladies.
I just figured I'd ask the dumb question, the "ZS" that stunted in SA Exertion, what the fuck were we?
I see so many people drooling over the fact Barney's stunting again and Bloodhook desided to come back that I just ask, was what was in that video even ZS?
To be honest, one person isn't a fucking crew, get that part through your skulls. The ZS crew was formed by SEVERAL people. To give someone the "right of leadership" over something that hasen't been theres for so long seems idiotic in my view, not that it matters around this place. If that was the case Maxwell could throw .:vERt:. and all its rights at everyone when ever he wished, it was him and a few others who started it, I just ran off with it.
So really if this is the way you all picture it, why not move the Exertion out of the ZS section? I mean, does it deserve to have its name attached to Barney's "Holy Grail" of ZS?
w/e let the words fly.
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AE left ZS. THEFTman was an inactive turd. Mike333 was basically the leader of the crew at that moment, and he let Barney in. (I think.) After Atonement (the last ok ZS video even tho THEFTman prlly modded in that) ZS has been a crew full of controversy and scandal. Now with Barney, Bloodyhook, and Mike333 calling the shots, ZS will not be a crew that is frowned upon by most of GTAS. Barney is arranging something for getting the old videos out of the section and stored somewhere else. Therefore, your precious "Exertion" will be safe, far from the new ZS videos. You should be happy that your crew or your old crew is starting over, or did you like ZS the way it was? Barney is the only person on these forums that can turn ZS around, and you should be kissing his ass for taking ZS under his wing.
To ultimatly answer you question of "what were we". All you guys were was a failed attempt to turn ZS around. Slim and Bobsaget were not loyal members and spit ZS out like a sponge of needles as soon as a different crew opened their doors to them.
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yup what feron said
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Leaders of crews? What the hell, stunting crews about about people who want to make videos as a group, not about.....leadership.....
MA I agree with you in a way, it's weird that Barney came back and then all of a sudden the ZS before just vanished.
Hope this all gets sorted though, ZS rocks.
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Why do you even care about the "ZS before"? It was just a bunch of modded shit. The true ZS is back.
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So MA, Slim, BobSaget and Mike modded.....oh ok that clears things up??
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No no. I honestly did not think that I would have declare that I wasent making any accusations of modding. I was just talking about the videos THEFTman admited he modded in. Or mabey you were talking about the "ZS before" as the SA and From The Seams ZS that existed for like a month or two.
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Sorry for this MSN like convo in the topic.
Feron I meant like....although yes AE and THEFT modded their asses off, there were still people in the crew that didn't mod, and although they have nicely left the crew, due to finding another, quitting or whatever. I still don't think they should just be swept under the carpet like some shaven pubic hair
That's all, I hope you understand what I meant, and what I think MA meant.
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So MA, Slim, BobSaget and Mike modded.....oh ok that clears things up??
That's a rather lame and stubborn argument... is it really so hard to get that Feron is trying to say that ZS has taken quick turn in a brighter direction?
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Slim and Bobsaget were not loyal members and spit ZS out like a sponge of needles as soon as a different crew opened their doors to them.
They knocked on the TMS door as if their lives depended on it - obviously they weren't happy in ZS. They approached us and not us to them. They show a lot of enthusiasm and seem very happy with TMS, and we are happy with them.
Back to the general topic itself - Barney has to continually be considered as one of the best (whatever you think of his attitude, he's a talented wee fud). With his reputation he will then be considered 'leader', just like Daffy is considered by a few to lead WH (I do at least). Barney has a past with ZS though so I think that is fitting.
I do NOT think the past of ZS since his time away from them, the bad times too, should be removed. Consider it a constant reminder of the lows the crew had plummeted to.
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Okay Feron now you took it too far. Barney and I started the crew some years ago and said he would stay till the end, from as far as I can remember he left me with ZS and what I did with it was fine until my modding incident which in my opinion was "my incident" indeed. Not ZS's fault, not Theftmans fault even though him modding didn't help it was still his decision and his poor choice.
ZS didn't get a modding name, the oh-so-mighty Barney didn't do shit and he doesn't deserve full gratitude for taking ZS back. That's just a selfish act by him, fucking prick.
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Feron, you blind fucker, ZS has been modding since Revenants.
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Kingjad I said "opened your doors to them" I dident say that you guys begged for them, they came knocking and you let them in, thats all I ment.
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oddly I thought Aries said I was modding for a second, weird?
To start, ya Aries knows exactly what I mean, basically everyone is just forgetting that AE and Theftman ever happened. Guess what, they're ZS vets, they lasted longer then Barn, so if anyone has the right to (as a friend of mine put it once) "Swing dick" around ZS its them.
Now as for Feron, you kinda started a fire with me, the fact I was not being ignorant and your reply was fairly disrespectful shows me you want to be shut up, so I'll give it my best shot. Keep in mind I've been gone some time, so I missed out on some MSN bitch fights involved with this garbage, so I'll keep it in my point of view.
- I had one stunt in Exertion, so the word "precious" can be blown right out the door from word go.
- If you didn't like the way ZS was turning out, your a forum member, voice a fucking opinion, christ not like I'm doing it right now or anything?
- What the fuck is a "sponge of needles"?
- People reserve the right to take their own road to different places, you want history? People like AE, Nightkid, ZeroX etc. they were all in .:vERt:. at one point and left when something better came up, in all 3 cases they went to ZS at one point or another. Slim and Bob have that same right and all the more power to them, they at least threw down some wicked stuff for the vid, don't fucking play it up like they never wanted to be in ZS in the first place, cause I'm pretty fucking sure you don't make peoples minds up for them.
- Me, Kiss Barney's "ring" you got ALOT of nerve saying that to me. Keep in mind I put up the time and the money to help get these forums online in the first place, remember back when Andyroo was your lord and savour? Not some lil kid that lives in Australia?
- I joined ZS because know one saw it coming a mile away, lots of people can atest to that remark. Was I really in the crew? Kinda sorta, I did my stunts and gave them to AE, the stunts took me maybe a week in total and thats all the contact I kept with ZS... I never talked to AE or Theft, well no I did, but not for horribly long. Thats a very minute detail tho.
- My claims of "leadership" are ringing true tho, *dramatic voice kicks in* as you can clearly see Ferons only hope for his precious ZS is in Barney, can Barney rise to the occasion? Can he come back from possible months off of stunting and, dare I say, lead ZS to a new era of good?
The answer to all these questions doesn't really matter, what matter's is maybe Barney can jump off his high horse long enough for Feron to play a game of "Suck and Blow" with em.
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oddly I thought Aries said I was modding for a second, weird?
To start, ya Aries knows exactly what I mean, basically everyone is just forgetting that AE and Theftman ever happened. Guess what, they're ZS vets, they lasted longer then Barn, so if anyone has the right to (as a friend of mine put it once) "Swing dick" around ZS its them.
Now as for Feron, you kinda started a fire with me, the fact I was not being ignorant and your reply was fairly disrespectful shows me you want to be shut up, so I'll give it my best shot. Keep in mind I've been gone some time, so I missed out on some MSN bitch fights involved with this garbage, so I'll keep it in my point of view.
- I had one stunt in Exertion, so the word "precious" can be blown right out the door from word go.
- If you didn't like the way ZS was turning out, your a forum member, voice a fucking opinion, christ not like I'm doing it right now or anything?
- What the fuck is a "sponge of needles"?
- People reserve the right to take their own road to different places, you want history? People like AE, Nightkid, ZeroX etc. they were all in .:vERt:. at one point and left when something better came up, in all 3 cases they went to ZS at one point or another. Slim and Bob have that same right and all the more power to them, they at least threw down some wicked stuff for the vid, don't fucking play it up like they never wanted to be in ZS in the first place, cause I'm pretty fucking sure you don't make peoples minds up for them.
- Me, Kiss Barney's "ring" you got ALOT of nerve saying that to me. Keep in mind I put up the time and the money to help get these forums online in the first place, remember back when Andyroo was your lord and savour? Not some lil kid that lives in Australia?
- I joined ZS because know one saw it coming a mile away, lots of people can atest to that remark. Was I really in the crew? Kinda sorta, I did my stunts and gave them to AE, the stunts took me maybe a week in total and thats all the contact I kept with ZS... I never talked to AE or Theft, well no I did, but not for horribly long. Thats a very minute detail tho.
- My claims of "leadership" are ringing true tho, *dramatic voice kicks in* as you can clearly see Ferons only hope for his precious ZS is in Barney, can Barney rise to the occasion? Can he come back from possible months off of stunting and, dare I say, lead ZS to a new era of good?
The answer to all these questions doesn't really matter, what matter's is maybe Barney can jump off his high horse long enough for Feron to play a game of "Suck and Blow" with em.
You know you should have made a little .wmv named after a Slayer album with all this in it for us to look at instead.
Anyways you cleary think im kissing Barneys ass. Im not, im just trying to support the new ZS. Saying that im kissing Barneys ass is a cheap shot. Just because I havent been in 50+ videos dont mean I worship everyone that has. I dident mean for you to get offended, im sorry but I wasent trying to be offensive when I posted that. I mean all I said was the stuff more then half the forums thinks, deal with it man. I dont mean for this to turn into a flame war dude, just trying to help. Sorry.
@AE, I see where your coming from man, but you werent doing anything with ZS. You were leaving just as he did. Mabey for differnt or similair reasons, either way ZS was introuble. Would you of rather had some one with no history in ZS pick up the pieces and turn it into somthing its not? Or the crew just disapering from GTAS completly.
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alright man, but serious, the ring comment, that was some ass kissin, even you gotta admit it.
(BTW Christ Illusion was taken from the Slayer album yes, but the idea behind the video brings out the Christ Illusion ideal further. but anways)
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What ring comment?
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ring=ass.
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If you don't like how things are being run, make a new crew with the modders because I am turning zs around.
I am doing what I think should be be done to make the crew better and I never said I was the leader, you guys just assumed because I'm getting things done.
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Long live the NEW and ORIGINAL ZS
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and nothing in between
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ZS was formed by Barney and AE and they always were the leaders of the crew when they were in. now AE left and Barney is back so he should be the leader again.
don't teach others how to deal with the things in their crews(that was to people like Aries)
MA, i don't really get your point since you're the vet and remember the old ZS. however i understand you joined ZS when it was completely different so you may not want any changes.
i think your comparison with vERt is not correct because Barney was with ZS for a lot of time and when ZS associates for me with Barney, vErt associates with you, not Maxwell. and if vERt would be reformed by someone and then you'll decide to get back to lead the crew i don't think anyone would be against because people know you were in vERt for a lot of time so you won't fuck up anything. same with Barney.
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All for one, one for all.
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All for one, one for all.
One for all, all for one
We are strong, we are one
One for all, all for one
We are strong, NEMESIS
You know arch enemy right?
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Let me be leader!
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yeah, sure, only if you don't deleted our forum section
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yeah, sure, only if you don't deleted our forum section
ZING
And this new hype is excellent
I feel ZS comming to a new high, back to when it was rivaling the great ATS at each crew's respective prime.
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I feel Pleth is high...
I'll wait for results first instead of hype, only fair
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I'll reserve judgement until I see how long Barn's newly re-kindled interest in stunting lasts.
(Probably should have gone in the original 'Barney's back' thread...but I'm lazy )
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I'll give him a week...
Any takers?
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I'll give him a week...
Any takers?
Me.
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Interesting topic, well hope it helps the stunts in the next video...how is it going by the way ZS? Much progress?
(Sorry for being offtopic, but I find it much more interesting that being on topic)
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yeah, sure, only if you don't deleted our forum section
haha
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I've said it once and I'll say it again:
A lot of noobs/gays/shit stunters/ etc.. keep coming in the ZS section hating on Aenima and THEFTman. These guys are better people, better stunters, better editors than all you put together. I'm fed up of all the hate cus of about 5 modded stunts. They can put modded stunts in the vid if they fucking want. It's a G.A.M.E. Aenima and Theftman have landed some of the best stunts I've ever seen. Infact, if you all wanna lick Barneys ass, let me remind you that Theftman "PWNED" Barney by landing his 540 krail that Barney couldn't land.
I think some of you need to know what you're talking about before you chat shit out of your gobs.
(Oh and any mod can warn me or whatever, I'm just getting pissed off with these guys).
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well if understand you, omni, it shouldn't be about who 'OWNS' who, should it? It is just a game after all (you should have fun with a game).
you start a crew to have fun with eachother right? So is all this stuff about a crew worth it? I think you can't keep a crew going by force; everyone has to enjoy it.
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Hence why they word PWNED was in speech marks. It was a quote from what other people said at the time. I agree, it is all about fun.
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Haha. Feron, me and Bob left because Theftman was gonna make Aries delete the ZS section.
And I actually offered myself to stay and ''save'' the crew, so please, don't say I never care or did anything for the crew.
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A lot of noobs/gays/shit stunters/ etc.. keep coming in the ZS section hating on Aenima and THEFTman. These guys are better people, better stunters, better editors than all you put together. I'm fed up of all the hate cus of about 5 modded stunts.
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They were awesome stunters and deserve a lot more credit than they get, it was only in the last couple of months that the modding has 'torn the crew apart' but I think it was more because of people over-reacting when it happened. If you want further proof of this look at recent vids like Diversus and From The Seams, no modding, and better stunts than some people will ever do.
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I don't think THEFTman and Aenima were so great.
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I personally saw THEFTman and Aenigmagun as people who did the stunts they had to do to look good, or to be cool. Not people who had fun and stunted for themselves.
That's my opinion though, so..
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They pwned, they're both great guys with great personalities. I could care less how many stunts they modded.
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I'm not really sure what this topic is about. MA has a problem with Barney receiving praise for changing ZS around? Of course one person isn't a crew, that's just obvious. Not sure how that relates to ZS. Barney was let in ZS and so he's working as a member to make repairs. Not like we said anyone can't or can be a leader. This was never properly discussed within the crew, and so nothing about that is official. I think that's what the topic is about. (btw, MA, unblock me)
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If you don't like how things are being run, make a new crew with the modders because I am turning zs around.
I am doing what I think should be be done to make the crew better and I never said I was the leader, you guys just assumed because I'm getting things done.
bingo there he said it lets close this topic before ppl start aruging
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If you don't like how things are being run, make a new crew with the modders because I am turning zs around.
I am doing what I think should be be done to make the crew better and I never said I was the leader, you guys just assumed because I'm getting things done.
bingo there he said it lets close this topic before ppl start aruging
When the hell did you become a moderator?
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omg i am so smart how did i know some1 was going to reply on that
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omg i am so smart how did i know some1 was going to reply on that
In English, please.
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godson for an admin!!!111oneoneeleven!
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omg i am so smart how did i know some1 was going to reply on that
In English, please.
u do not know how to read slimmy
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omg i am so smart how did i know some1 was going to reply on that
In English, please.
u do not know how to read slimmy
Godson, you are the one who can't write properly.
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I'm waiting to see some result before judge. But it's good for ZS to have a leader like Barney, don't forget, without him ZS are die and he's alone (imo) to move stuffs. Without him, nothing change.
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omg i am so smart how did i know some1 was going to reply on that
In English, please.
u do not know how to read slimmy
Godson, you are the one who can't write properly.
i am really srry for going offtopic ppl slim just shut up i mean srry i am srry
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Well "godson" if you were really sorry you wouldn't have made any posts pertaining to Slim. And please don't bother replying to my post.
Well MA I understand where you are coming from. When Barney left ZS he was just another solo stunter and I don't think it was right for mike333 to just let him in without hearing what the rest of the crew had to say. You were thrown aside and that's not right. mike333 did that act out of desperation because he did not want to see ZS die, apparently. If you still want to be in ZS I suggest you talk to Barney through PM or IM him. Otherwise meet me on MSN.
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omg i am so smart how did i know some1 was going to reply on that
In English, please.
u do not know how to read slimmy
Godson, you are the one who can't write properly.
i am really srry for going offtopic ppl slim just shut up i mean srry i am srry
Translation:
I am really sorry for going off-topic people. Slim just shut up, i mean sorry, I am sorry.
Or something like that.
Lets get back on-topic again guys
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Fuck this, Barney is in. He will make ZS get back on its feet again. Go Barney!
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Why does everyone brown-nose so much on this forum?
..Forget it..
I agree with what MA says btw.
*goes to enjoy some Aenima and Theftman vids*
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I've said it once and I'll say it again:
remind you that Theftman "PWNED" Barney by landing his 540 krail that Barney couldn't land.
What vid?
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Fury. Oh and you all say you want the Old ZS style. Let me remind you who edited most of ZS old vids and gave it that style you all rave about..Oh yeah it was AENIMA.
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He edited 4 out of the 16 or so.
Oh that grind Omni...well I'm sure if we go back to when there were no teleporters when Barney did it (Stole that stunt idea from me ). He couldn't have done it on his first try, probably bailed a good 50 times or so, had to take his PCJ drive it back around the building up the stairs, and push it to the roof. Compared to the 50 or so attempts Theft took to complete it. (With teleporter)
And 2 mediocre modders don't make up a style, and if they do it must be a pretty poopey style. The entire old crew as a whole made up that "old" style. I don't even care about their "style" anymore, I just want to see 1 new unmodded vid by them.
Hope you see it from my perspective Omni.
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I'm confused, I only saw a 360 to grind
I don't like how people say "well i don't care if they modded, they have good personalities" wth is that, this is a stunt crew, they stunt, they make stunt videos...the whole point of stunting is a challenge and to have fun, when you bring modding and lying into stunting then what the hell.
You're supposed to judge 'videos/stunts' on the stunters perfomance in the video, not turn a blind eye to the lying and cheating in the video because they happen to like the same tv show as you and listen to the same music as you.
god.
I don't want to get in another argument It fucking always happens when I say my opinion, usually ends in another person blocking me and a +20% warn...and then some other random guy who has nothing to do with it gets involved because I'm 'arguing' with his friend and then he insults me and it goes on and on untill everyone's like "BK is a twat, always causing arguments"
Dickheads
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So Fury, Tombstone, Reformation weren't amazing vids? There probably my top 3 ZS vids plus Shadow zone..each edited by Aenima. Hell, aprt from Theftmans one modded stunt Revenants was fucking sick aswell.
I feel personally that these 2 deserve some respect for what they've done. They may have both modded but so has Brainkiller, Tackleberry, Fugitive, Kaynt and others. Why are they not brought up in every other topic and slandered for what they have done? Because their un-modded stunts are awesome and they have bought something to this community. If you can't see how Aenima and Theftman have brought something to this community with their great stunting and editing over the years (bar the modded stunts) then you are a fools.
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I didn't know that BK and Tack modded.
Well at least those guys you mentioned stopped modding, unlike those 2 who kept on modding time and time again. They got caught and kept modding, people complained and they kept modding and refused to change. And when there was time for them to change they refused to accept it. And no those 3 vids you mentioned weren't amazing at all. My favorite ZS vids were The Game, Disciples and The Final Exertion. So by your final statement I guess 99% of this forum must be fools.
Plus, Theft was a pretty shitty editor
Edit: Omni, I'm not trying to start anything with you or trying to ruin ZS or this topic. But I strongly disagree with your statement about those 2.
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Yea I modded a 30ft packerbump in my first VC video
And from your last post I completley understand what you're saying Omni.
But...well... people seem to get remembered for the negative things rather than the positive. Especially when you mod several times and are constantly lying to everyone...
Oh and all stuff like the made up stunter aka Raxar doesn't help make people beleive you when you tell them you've stopped modding.
Oh and Revenants was great loved the song. I just don't like theftmans slow stuff
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Tbh The Final Exertion was not great at all stuntwise but hey.
And you say 99% of the forums. Read the voting on best ZS vid found here: http://www.gtastunting.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8920 (http://www.gtastunting.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8920) . Fury is right up their, whereas YOUR favs are not mentioned. Also people say they ruined the crew with modded stunts? I still watch and enjoy the vids with the modded stunts in. I know the modded stunts (which is usually 1 or 2 stunts a vid with the latest ones) and just don't take notice of them because the vids still are great vids.
Anyhow I don't care what anyone says, Aenima and Theftman in my eyes have both been great stunters over the years, IMO ALOT better than many other stunters who slander them.
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I have to come out and say something...
I have modded also...
Yes, it's true. I remember my first ever vid, it was modded. Every single stunt. I did a pretty good job hiding it. My 2nd vid was also modded and so were all my vids after that. I made a secret promise with the editors of all those vids that if they don't tell I'd give them Kaynt's pic. They all agreed. Even Samurai, I used the slow mo and grav mod hacks and speed mod on my p2b in Connected. My bus bump, steed mod. Samurai is like a chipmunk at hiding modded stunts, even the one with the biggest teeth gets papercuts. I was so impressed with myself. The only vid I didn't mod in was Defiance 3... Sorry to lying to BH about my modded stunts which weren't modded at all. I <3 modding.
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I can't believe I'm the only one on here that respects these 2 guys...
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Torque there's no need to be a twat about it
I have no respect for them sadly lied too many times for me to 'forgive' them. But that's just the way I am, I can't help it.
And I know they have acheived more in the stunting world then I ever will, but they ruined all that. Imagine if they were actually good people, imagine how great there reputation would be and how much respect they would have they flushed that down the bog with all the lying and cheating.
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THEFT always pissed on people, had a bad attitude, AE was a cool dude, and did a lot for stunting, I have respect for AE.
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Aenima lied more than once about it, that's what sucked.
Every time I tried to trust him he would break it. I ain't really got anything against theft personally.
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Oh and ZS have always had amazing music choice I'm looking through the 'ZS' folder and I can't come across one of there crew vids that had shitty music, all the collabs also had great music choices.
<3 song from Anger.
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Aenima is ok, THEFTman is not. I would've liked it if only THEFTman left and Aenima stayed.
The ZS between Atonement and The Final Exertion, I'm sorry to say was bad. I didn't really like any of the vids released after Atonement. The Final Exertion was pretty good, but I was dissapointed that no one from ZS edited it. (Aenima or BoBsaget editing would've been nice)
Barney going back to ZS is kinda nice and all, but ZS will never be what it was when they first started out, cause GTAstunting killed them.
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Aenima is ok, THEFTman is not. I would've liked it if only THEFTman left and Aenima stayed.
The ZS between Atonement and The Final Exertion, I'm sorry to say was bad. I didn't really like any of the vids released after Atonement. The Final Exertion was pretty good, but I was dissapointed that no one from ZS edited it. (Aenima or BoBsaget editing would've been nice)
Barney going back to ZS is kinda nice and all, but ZS will never be what it was when they first started out, cause GTAstunting killed them.
I disagree.
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ZS can be something better. Don't try to imitate the past, but learn from that to improve in future.
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THEFT always pissed on people, had a bad attitude, AE was a cool dude, and did a lot for stunting, I have respect for AE.
I agree with you, AE showed regret for what he did but THEFTman decided to flame us back instead.
At least AE has some respect for what we do.
Omni: They have both edited some good videos and done their share of good stunts, though i prefer AE by far... THEFTman is the reason i left ZS, AE was pretty cool though he had a "bad month" or two.
Saying that THEFTman PWNED Barney is foolish no matter if it's a joke or not, Barney got unlucky, THEFTman didn't plus Barney was creative and found that stunt himself unlike THEFTman.
No one has a brown nose here dude, is it so wrong to show appreciation to the person who tries to turn things around and if we do i believe you got a Misguided Brownie on your nose as well.
ZS will never be what it was when they first started out, cause GTAstunting killed them.
I have to disagree, wrong moves by single individuals ruined ZS's reputation, it's kinda dumb to blame this on Gtastunting AKA the Community... but that's just my view.
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Barney got unlucky, THEFTman didn't plus Barney was creative and found that stunt himself unlike THEFTman.
He got the stunt from me in my 3rd vid, Bullet With Your Name.
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...and THEFTman from Barney probably...i guess that puts them on the same level of creativity for that stunt then
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Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.
Edit: But I always found Barney to be pretty creative in finding stunt spots, even if finallight gives him some ideas.
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roflroflrofl
Barney is creative as fuck, wait till you see some of his new shizzy in the zs vizzy.
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Ok guys stop with Aenima and Theft for now, it's gone way too far. I'll stop talking about those 2 myself. Let's just stay on topic on MA's main post.
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ZS always seems to be in the center of some kind of controversy. In house fighting, claims of modding, members quitting and bitch threads, like this one. They've gotten a bad rep for things in past vids and I don't know if anything new won't be looked at closely for these past indiscretions. Personally I'm glad to see Barney back, despite the bad blood him and I now seem to have. I can only wish you guys all the luck with this endevour but wonder if maybe starting a new crew from scratch wouldn't be the best thing to do?
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i got a great name for the next ZS vid "Reborn" ZS needs to prove themseveles this time
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Already used by Barney.
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lol nice little ZS discussion you guys got going here. It shows you guys really care. Let me join in on the fun a little bit.
My personal favourite video (and I know I'm not alone) is Untouchable. The Game, Shadow Zone, Fury, and Tombstone are pretty close too though.
As for AE and THEFTman, I've always respected them. Maybe not always as a stunter, but AEnima has always been a great guy to me. Can't say I've had any problems with THEFTman either. Sure they modded, everyone knows, everyone bitches about it, how can anyone not know? But these guys are very talented when it comes to their unmodded work. They never had a reason to mod. AE's editing is one of my top favourites. THEFTman makes the sickest intros I've ever seen. At least for these things, respect is much deserved. This is just from my perspective though.
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I dont really see the reason for keeping a crew going, thats suppose to be dead. Like TS, ts aint ts without Matt and ZX yet some folks cant face that.
Speaking of the old ZS vid, am i the only one that finds it funny that Barney has like half of all the stunts in all the vids.
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Who's to say a crew is supposed to die?
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Who's to say a crew is supposed to die?
The people running it.
For example, the day TD leaves TMS is the day it dies.
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Juan we should meet each other, we live like 10 mins away from each other.
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controversy ftw!
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Ohhh so thats where barnicles' stunts are going to now KILLER IDEA
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Thefty is a great guy and Revenants were edited very well. Shadow Zone & Revenants = 2 best ZS vids.
AE is cool too. of course i didn't like the fact he modded so i can't say i respect him as a stunter, but putting stunting aside, he always was a nice guy.
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Saying THEFT is a great is one of the biggest exaggerations i've seen.
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no it's not. if you had conflicts with him it doesn't make him the concentration of all world evil.
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He did a lot of bad moves without showing any regret for it.
That makes him the opposite of great.
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like what?
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Modded several stunts, took many decisions in ZS without hearing with the crew what they thought about it and showed no understand why that upset me.
I can check my MSN log with him to find many examples if you're interested.
You who haven't been in a crew with him like i have may not have the same hate for him.
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modding stunts doesn't count, we're not talking about it right now.
even tho i've never been in ZS i don't see him as a great crew leader, but that doesn't make him anyhow bad. it's like saying the football coach is bad as a person if the FC lost every match because of his strategies.
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THEFT FORCED ME TO BE IN ZS!!!! THATS THE WORST CRIME ANYONE CAN COMMIT!!!
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modding stunts doesn't count, we're not talking about it right now.
even tho i've never been in ZS i don't see him as a great crew leader, but that doesn't make him anyhow bad. it's like saying the football coach is bad as a person if the FC lost every match because of his strategies.
1. We are talking about modding if he shows no regrets for it.
2. He wasn't a leader.
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I got say something also. I kinda feel bad for leaving ZS as fast as I did. Though I wanted to stay, and release a 2 man collab with Slim, we decided to take a change and send it to TMS as an audition. This was also cause of THEFT his lack of interest. He was going to help me edit it, but never came back with result. Other then that the ZS that I was in, didn't have anything to do with eachother, the only members I talked to where Slim and sometimes I played MTA with Mike. Also giving that ZS is a VC crew (eventhough they did release an SA vid) I didn't even fit in here. Now I'm with TMS and I think I'm more at the place where I belong, maybe you won't agree but I don't care. I wish everyone still in ZS the best of luck, and I can't wait to see a new ZS release. Peace.
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If you can't see how Aenima and Theftman have brought something to this community with their great stunting and editing over the years (bar the modded stunts) then you are a fools.
I'm a fool
Barney was always a lot better then Aenima until he started modding IMO, actualy wait up I'm not a fool, your a fuckin fool, you do not decide what people think or who that give credit to. I honestly don't see what they have done for the community, Aenima modded in the pwnage game, which screwed it around, he modded in stunt videos, which screwed his crew around (THEFTman helped), ok so theres the low points, lets look at the high points, Aenima started ZS and THEFTman was in it for a long time, the crew became successful, can't think of anything else, so they messed up the only 2 high points in their stunting "careers" by modding, they dragged ZS's name through the dirt, yea maybe some of the stunts aren't modded, but which ones, how do we know even the old ZS videos aren't modded.
I honestly don't see why you think you can insist that we give these 2 twats recognition, and why you would waste your time on them.
took many decisions in ZS without hearing with the crew what they thought about it
I noticed that it would be like that even in the short time I was in ZS.
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At this point all I can say is:
ABLAOLEALAWLOALWAOSLDBLAOBL
Glad I got that off my chest.
(Thought Id add somthing new to the conversation)
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TORQUE STFU
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Guys, this is bordering on pure spam.
Make your posts count, or you will pay cut out the crap spam!
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*spam*
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I dont really see the reason for keeping a crew going, thats suppose to be dead. Like TS, ts aint ts without Matt and ZX yet some folks cant face that.
Speaking of the old ZS vid, am i the only one that finds it funny that Barney has like half of all the stunts in all the vids.
Still had the caps on, woops. Do you think TS should die? Anyway I think ZS's next vid will be pretty sweet...
Aenima and Theftman fuckin own btw, imagine shit without them and by that I dont mean there isnt gonna be any modded stunts, but the impact on the vids they were in. and etc etc and stfu Torque
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I got mixed feelings about the pair. AE seemed to be alright as a person, but then there's the modding thing. Thefty was cool way back when getting my feet wet with collabs (Burn Trap) But he seems to be a bit of a jerk to a lot of people, and the modding thing doesn't help either.
Barney on the other hand is a cool guy, and an awesome stunter.
Best of luck to ZS!
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To be honest, i really liked Theftman and the newer sort of guys but thats my opion.
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Tombstone.
AE fucking edited that vid nicely. Probably the best all around vid of the old days. I didnt speak very much to both guys but the couple of times i did speak with them they seemed very decent. What I like about all these Russian dudes is that they speak their minds.
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Disciples, Untouchables editing > Tombstone editing.
oh and Barney edited Shadow Zone.
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Disciples, Untouchables editing > Tombstone editing.
oh and Barney edited Shadow Zone.
Meh Disciples has wierd effects, like every 10secs or so it pauses for like a milisecond, gets annoying. Oh and the old barney reminds me of Sweet. They have tons of stunts but only a third of them are pwnage. The new barney is pwnage 24/7.
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Barney's old vids (Reborn, Carnage series) are better than anything you've put out.
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Barney's old vids (Reborn, Carnage series) are better than anything you've put out.
Who you talking to fag. Did i ever say that my vids are better. I dont think so.
Oh and my comments on the filler were about the crew vids. All his solo's rock.
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Well Shadow Zone rapes your shit, too.
So nughh
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Well Shadow Zone rapes your shit, too.
So nughh
If it rapes me imagine what it does to you.
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I'm not saying I'm any better than you, I'm just saying you shouldn't diss his old videos because I would laugh if you even tried to duplicate any of the miracles he pulled.
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I'm not saying I'm any better than you, I'm just saying you shouldn't diss his old videos because I would laugh if you even tried to duplicate any of the miracles he pulled.
There are no miracles in stunting. We all stunt the same game. So we all can pull off the same stunts.
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Sab, Fuzzy...wait, wtf? Juan, change yer name back to normal. Sab, Juan, stop the bickering and take it to msn/PMs.
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This is fast becoming a "let's hate the modders thread". We all know their history so how about cuttin them some slack.
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Maybe they dont deserve it? Now we're spoiling them if we give them 32587628 chances, theyll do it over and over and over.
As for THEFTman, hes fun to play CS 1.6 with, as for AE....well...lol
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I bet they grav mod in CS also.
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I bet I shouldn't say anything
Because it would dig me a deeper whole with you morons.
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Your already there.
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Quit being gay.
Fucking homo, god damn. "Oh I'm cool, I talk shit to people over the internet and I love to be sarcastic but I'm not funny at all about it." You're not funny, stop trying to be cool. Fucking head bobbing and shit.
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AE is here
By the way, might wanna remove your title now...
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Oh yeah, admin? Dragonman please.
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PSP: wats a Dragonman?
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I dont know, one of AE's many alias's
Oh hell, while we're at it, how about a CSM Whore title for your favorite member here at GTAS
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Aenima > Brandon (wtf)
after all, he did beat you in the GTASL
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Yeah lol, dont even compare me to AE, thats silly
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actually no, it's not "one of my names" brandon6199.
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Then what is it?
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I forget.
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IT'S A NICKNAME YOU FUCKBAG
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ok, this is going no where now...
ZS is open for auditions
Closed