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Stunt Crew Network => Zero Signal => Hall Of Fame => [ZS] Chat & News => Topic started by: deviate on August 18, 2006, 09:47:06 PM
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You may have thought this was a topic for another new member, no this isn't even close. This is quite frankly the opposite, I am not creating drama but Feron brought to my attention just a few minutes ago this:
·#·$1Ferσή is illin·0 says:
no these new members
·#·$1Ferσή is illin·0 says:
there noobs
·#·$1Ferσή is illin·0 says:
there not ZS quality
Now, I want you all to know what I told Feron, we are a growing crew and if you hadn't noticed, whatever comes out of ZS is always better than whatever comes in.(Taclite being an exception because he slacked due to whatever life problems he had) GTAS has way to high of a standard these days, especially the crews. I mean we have our standards but whatever we do lately just doesn't seem to come back ten-fold with each person, but I understand that I can't please everyone... but I mean, seriously look at this.
·#·$1Ferσή is illin·0 says:
me and alot of other people are starting to view ZS differntly... and not in a good way
·#·$1Ferσή is illin·0 says:
no trying to be offensive
[ZS] Shogun says:
I don't care, but at the same time I am curious
[ZS] Shogun says:
how are you viewing us?
[ZS] Shogun says:
And what friends.
·#·$1Ferσή is illin·0 says:
well, me and half of GTAS are starting to suspect THEFTman is modding.... and all these new members....
·#·$1Ferσή is illin·0 says:
dont take it offensive, im just warning you...
[ZS] Shogun says:
Oh trust me, I have my suspicion but these new members are not for you to care about, and what's wrong with having them, does it make us look "nooby" get a clue, GVT is 3 times as big as us.
Now look, I DO take this offensively and everything I said is basically true, and I want you all to know we are not stocking up on members just to make us look bigger. We are merely adding freshmeat to our grinder so other crews can have a bite to get the jist of the situation.
Also one more thing, I wasn't here for at least 3-4 days, the least my crew could have done was PM me about the decision on Slim, I was on this forum, I just didn't have MSN. But no they went on without me and only 3 people agreed on letting him in out of all 8. Now people have taken their recruitement power in ZS to powerfully, when I make decision I pass it around the crew, and if I have a higher percentage of yes' than no's or people that weren't on it's my duty to accept them, because of majority.
That's all I have to say.
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then shouldn't you recount the votes for slim?
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I'm waiting for options, THEFTman and I need to talk first.
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Well I care about ZS and I dont want to see it fail, and thats why I said those things. So please dont hate me. I hope that ZS can prove me wrong. Im also glad that I have given Shogun a chance to address this issue.
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lol, feron means he ain't a noob?
sorry for this ban me if you want,
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Well, I never said I was better a stunter then them.
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Well also, as I know from my audition, which just AE needs to look at now, there are 2 seperate 'sections' The SA Crew, And VC Crew. Basically some people are in both, most are in VC, and since ZS are intrested in SA too they're getting SA Guys, such as Slim, Fate and hopefully myself
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Well man, a crew whose leader has been caught modding more than 1 times cannot have a good reputation. Just my thought.
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^true.
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X2 And I do think slim's votes should be recounted, but i do think AE has changed, if I didnt I would be going to audition for a different crew right now
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^true.
X2 And I do think slim's votes should be recounted, but i do think AE has changed, if I didnt I would be going to audition for a different crew right now
Wow guys, low blow there.
Fuck this whole 'AE modded' thing. Thats over and fucking done with for all I care, I seriously dont want to hear anything about it on the forums, he's obviously changed for the better, get over it.
AE is a great person, and definatly fit to run a crew. As for what Feron said, so what if the stunters going into ZS arent as good as the current or former ZS members. Getting fresh meat is a great idea, then you can make legends out of them.
What you said was harsh man, and although posting MSN convo's is against forum rules, this deserved to be posted
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Wow. I agree with Feron. I am starting to view ZS in a different way to.
One of the reasons that i joined was to try to get ZS on the rigth tracks again, i've been in charge of another crew. (Not saying i wanna be in charge of ZS)
Btw, Feron said he thougth the new members and Thefty modded. I've never modded. I accsualy just started to use a teleport tool. So don't accuse me of modding, please. And i don't think non of the other members mod.
Sooo, if you guys want me out of ZS, throw me out. I'm just trying to do the best for the crew.
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I just think Feron has to shut up and ZS needs to do what they want, I know some people suck and some people got some good skill, and maybe shogun did mod, maybe theft did also, so what? let's look what they are doing to keep zs in alive, meh
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Slim owns, he's definately good for ZS, especially if ZS is taking a step towards SA. Keep it up people.
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Slim owns, he's definately good for ZS, especially if ZS is taking a step towards SA. Keep it up people.
Thanks Kert
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What you guys do or talk about is pretty much your business but maybe you should have posted this in your private section? I mean this is a ZS crew matter and out in the open like this it seems like an opportunity for people to start shit.
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Kert: +++
New members arent bad.. It keeps the crew alive. Also we should remember that ZS is moving to SA currently which means that they NEED SA stunter... and Slim is defo gd for the team.
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I completely understand what Feron is getting at, Falcon... you do know you can disagree with someone without insulting them. Maybe how Feron said what he meant came across the wrong way.
When you see people who have literally made gtastunting.com what it is today leave ZS and then ZS recruit members who aren't any where near the quality of the previous members then it is changing ZS, and big changes to such a big crew like ZS... well, it doesn't seem the right decision in some people's opinion. You might say "This is up to the crew not you" or "we recruit who we want, it has nothing do with you" yea, maybe it doesn't but it's us who watch and rate your videos, and maybe we don't want such a great crew to lower there standards.
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Yeah, though i dont understand why i was quoted by you aries since i think AE is on the right track, unless you used me as against this 'AE Modding' thing, and Slim does own, and deserves to be in the crew, but i still think his votes should be re-counted , you only just started using a teleporter?
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Thanks for feedback, and Neo I was posting this to tell everyone since the situation was about "half of GTAS" seeing us as a "nooby" crew according to Feron.
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Wow. I agree with Feron. I am starting to view ZS in a different way to.
One of the reasons that i joined was to try to get ZS on the rigth tracks again, i've been in charge of another crew. (Not saying i wanna be in charge of ZS)
Btw, Feron said he thougth the new members and Thefty modded. I've never modded. I accsualy just started to use a teleport tool. So don't accuse me of modding, please. And i don't think non of the other members mod.
Sooo, if you guys want me out of ZS, throw me out. I'm just trying to do the best for the crew.
Look Slim, I never said you modded. I never said ANYONE modded. I never directing the suspision of modding towards the new members. Only THEFTman, I dont really think he mods, but some of his stunts seem kinda off, and many people can agree with me.
And as to what Neo said, yeah it was fucking bullshit for AE to post this, he dident even mention that he was going to. Theres other ways to deal with issues then to put somebody thats trying to help your crew in the line of fire.
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ZS obviously saw something in those "noobs" I'm sure they'll do fine and ZS will make yet another great crew vid
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Haha has THEFTman started to make decisions on his own again?
I see both sides of the case here, someone might say that ZS has taken in stunters that doesn't do stunts on the level you usually see in ZS movies BUT now that they're in ZS have the chance to stunt with people who's more expirienced than them so they can learn and evolve as stunters.
Whoever they take under their wings is up to ZS and it's wrong to say that they're lowering their standards or whatever you'd like to say about it.
I think it's a good thing and i can't wait to see the next ZS vid
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Haha has THEFTman started to make decisions on his own again?
I see both sides of the case here, someone might say that ZS has taken in stunters that doesn't do stunts on the level you usually see in ZS movies BUT now that they're in ZS have the chance to stunt with people who's more expirienced than them so they can learn and evolve as stunters.
Whoever they take under their wings is up to ZS and it's wrong to say that they're lowering their standards or whatever you'd like to say about it.
I think it's a good thing and i can't wait to see the next ZS vid
yeah, it can only improve them and the crew. I mean, the first time I remember a crew doing this was...
Actually I don't remember one.
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Hey Feron, whats the fucking matter with you? I just dont understand you...So you think that ZS is a bad crew and its going down, also you think that many people in ZS are moddiong...Wtf, can you proove this man? Why do you think that THEFTman mods? How can you proove it, he is a great stunter, he stunts good, he edits good, he does good everything and just because you think that he mods, ZS suck? Oh i dunno what to say to you man, but i disagree with you, ZS is a great crew and its not going down....I think it will go up some time later, when some new stunters enter ZS and when experiensed stunters like THEFTman and Shogun will teach them stunt like themselves...
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Alright people don't flame Feron, but I was using him because he said half of GTAS suspected this crap, just no flaming, I just want feedback on what you think about the crew.
Edit: Oh and that goes for you too Feron.
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Dang, it seems like i have coused alot of problems
I'm really sorry. If you guys want me to leave, just tell me now. I don't wanna be in a crew that don't want me to be in the crew.
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No it's not that we don't want you it's just the fact that the crew let you in with lower majority votes and we need to revote because only 3 out of 8 people voted and they were yes'.
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Ok ppl, since no1 get a shit what is happening now in the crew, i'm going to tell you our plans and thought about future and past...
First of all, i'm not going to quote ppl coz it'll take alot of timing and i bet you don't want to see yourself Quoted in wrong way
1st. ZS doesn't have leaders as some1 of you said. ZS is Alliance and just some of ppl like ME and AE are caring of the things crew do and the things happening in the crew, so others lazy asses could sleep and don't worry.
2nd. Modding. Well, AE did mod, we all know it, he was caught and he said he won't do it again, let's trust the fuck to the words of great Veteran like him. If some of his stunts looks modded that doesn't mean they ARE modded. I can proove that by simple view of the "Performing" the stunt. Some of my stunts look modded, yea, all of you dunn know what happening to my PC everyday. I caught alot of Trojans last summer and some parts of my PC are still infected, that makes my Fraps recording lag like hell at 15 fps. What can I do with that?
3rd. ZS is growing, yea. We have lots of plans and one of them is being not only VC crew. That's why I started searching for SA stunters. I found out that Slim and Shadowsniper are pretty good for joing us and I saw for their reps, liked them, now i was going to show them to AE, Fate and Mike. And i don't even know who made "acception" decion before that.
4th. About getting Noobies (it's like you called them) in the crew. First of all "fresh" talented stunters are doing really good in finding Spots, the only problem is what they need is Training, and that is what we're giving them. You'll see that stunters we got in are very talented ppl and they desirved a place in ZS.
The ppl who were in ZS in the past were all Veterans, but not me, i was nooby, but look what i grow in now.
So think about it, and don't make your own decition for us, since we're doing alright with our own decitions.
So ppl, if you're now looking on ZS as on the different crew, you're totally right, we changed, and we have change in better way, trust us.
You'll see our new SA crew vid soon, that i think is pretty good for a start in that way And much much more
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That was well said.
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^x2
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That takes care of that then
But seriously...did you just expect ZS to die rather then pick up new members? w/e
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What does this mean im in?
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I've been suspecting so many things on the forums in general...
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What does this mean im in?
I don't think so.
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I thought i explaind all
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Maybe I'm a lil slow and such...
Maybe its just Feron...maybe its these fucking forums in general.
But heres the deal:
Prove shit before you open your mouth. As in, beyond a SHADOW OF A DOUBT that a stunt isnt possible as shown. Not:
"This person said they tried and it couldn't do it, so its modded, i agree" If you really want to talk shit, try the stunt and film it. OVER and OVER, and see if its truly impossible.
As for ZS's "Credit" in the stunting world, whats in the past is just that, the PAST. If ZS wanted to just keep banking on videos like Tombstone, they would have gave up ages ago. The fact is, here we are.
Plus, these guys (myself included) have been stunting since before you kids (in some cases, not all but some) even came to these forums. So calling our bluff is a bold move.
Don't write checks your ass can't cash is my point summed up.
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Fuck it, im not even gonna bother to defend my self.
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And why have you said that for?
I will close that thread soon, coz i think here's enough information to understand what happend. Plz, don't spam it.
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I have a feeling I'm gonna like the next ZS vid a lot. If it's VC, that is.
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I have a feeling I'm gonna like the next ZS vid a lot. If it's VC, that is.
true dat
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Thanks for feedback, and Neo I was posting this to tell everyone since the situation was about "half of GTAS" seeing us as a "nooby" crew according to Feron.
Fair enough dude, just didn't want your thread to turn into a flame war was all.
Personally I can't comment on this situation with feron. First I've never spoken to him and second it's not my place to give an opinion on matters that concern your crew. As far as you guys being a "nooby" crew come on gimme a break
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I think this should be closed now to stop esculation
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done