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VC Un-Modded Stunting Video Releases / Re: DATURA - Smut's Collab
« on: June 16, 2022, 04:03:37 PM »
Just to clarify something: Turtle Dick gave me that replay like a year ago (when we were doing the Delta re-make). He's not back or anything.

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VC Un-Modded Stunting Video Releases / Re: CheS-Breakthrough
« on: June 16, 2022, 04:01:27 PM »
Still feels weird seeing people use what I'll refer to as the 'AllBeast method' for stunting, but it is what it is I guess. There's some nice ideas in there for sure but my enjoyment of the spots are just diluted massively because of people using that method.

Editing was solid.

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VC Chat & Support / Re: The AllBeast Method.
« on: March 18, 2022, 08:31:32 AM »
There's a major mistake in your post, kids dont "become" whatever they want to be, they rather follow and copy whatever their parents are doing.
Never knew that Adolf Hitler's mum and dad had a hobby of killing jews and invading Poland - learn something new every day.

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VC Un-Modded Stunting Video Releases / Re: VC Throwback 2
« on: March 04, 2022, 01:35:19 AM »
Dang my stunts got all sortsa special treatment haha.

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VC Chat & Support / Re: The AllBeast Method.
« on: March 01, 2022, 02:12:08 AM »
First of all this topic is amazing.

Second of all how in the name of fuck is it still open is beyond me.

I just found out about it and you have the likes of DC, kingjad even Nitz and Aries drop in. Great stuff. I didnt even see allbeasts solo nor the explanation video Jason has posted. To see the community react and discuss the very nature of stunting in 2022 with some actual OGs shimming in is fantastic.

All that being said and with limited knowlwdge of what the fuck the method is i cant help but to smell extreme toxicity in this thread esp coming from the man himself. It is my understanding that the method was not disclosed beforehand  and allbeasts just tried to trick everyone into thinking it was done traditionally? And this whole discussion started because Jason figured things out? Thats just super lame. And all the comments he made about trolling and joking around and what not are too. This forum is over a decade old. Ive been part of it since 2007 and i think allbeasts about the same. 15 fucking years being part of this community. We're past being adults here. We are getting old. And we engage in trolling? Fuck me.

The only reason this thread has not been stopped is because it brought some color back to this forum. But it also showed the true colors some of people here represent. Grow up.
Allow me to correct you on a couple of things, as far as I understand it:

"It is my understanding that the method was not disclosed beforehand, and allbeasts just tried to trick everyone into thinking it was done traditionally? And this whole discussion started because Jason figured things out?" - Yes, technically you are correct. While Beast has hinted before that he had a method that was secret to get his stunts, he never did reveal it until very recently, when after so much suspicion from Haywire (as well as others) Beast sent Haywire what his method actually was. I'd highly recommend watching Haywire's video on it if you get the chance to. People had actually guessed he was using this sort of method (Aries and gryzlek for instance) but he denied it at the time, I don't know why exactly.

I'll reiterate once more - what AllBeast has done is not easy, but it is clearly deceptive in how most people view stunting. I feel like there is a place for his method though, just not under unmodded videos. Because I simply cannot accept his stuff as legitimate stunting.

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VC Un-Modded Stunting Video Releases / Re: VC Throwback 2
« on: February 26, 2022, 03:20:40 AM »
Oustanding effort, and an extremely enjoyable video to watch. Stunts were a great variety of older and newer stuff, great creativity involved, this is a video I can re-watch again and again and enjoy each time.

Such a fun video.

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DSS Video Releases / Re: Placebo (20th Solo)
« on: February 20, 2022, 10:54:13 AM »
Enjoyable video, gotta dig some freeway (well, angel) ledge grinds.

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VC Un-Modded Stunting Video Releases / Re: FROSTBITE III
« on: February 18, 2022, 11:45:09 AM »
This video was a banger!

Well done.

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VC Chat & Support / Re: The AllBeast Method.
« on: February 18, 2022, 08:24:29 AM »
Alright things are getting a bit needlessly personal between folk, and while I ain't in any position to say so - let's try and keep things civil to an extent, even if there are folk like me who are against such methods like this from existing.

I understand that I'm not an active stunter, and that how I see things may not be the majority. If this is how stunting evolves, so be it. It is up to the current generation to keep it going, after all.

I just personally feel like that people are going to end up using this as an easy way out, rather as a possible 'last alternative'. Beast did push the limits for most of what he did in his videos exploiting this method - I do not trust everyone else would do the same, though. They will see it as a viable method to begin to land their stunts with. Instead of pushing limits they'll be focused on just saving time from exerting more effort than would otherwise be necessary.

I do hope I'm wrong but I can easily envisage people fooling themselves into thinking they're better than someone else was at stunting throughout the years, purely because they utilised such a method when those other stunters never had that luxury to save every frame, have time to dwell and plan their next phase of the stunt etc. For all of Beast's procrastinating about being better than Barney, imagine what Barney would've achieved had he used this method? (And I'd still object to it being against the spirit of stunting too).

So good luck in future videos guys. Have open and honest discussions on how you all see this fitting into modern-day stunting - if the majority are happy with it being considered 'legitimate' and staying in unmodded sections, so be it. If not, perhaps there can be a new section for it (named after Beast, like he'd want). There's a clear appetite for people to dabble in this, after all.

It ain't for me, but contrary to the ignorance of others I'm not one to force my own beliefs and ideals on others - I merely strongly put forth my own views on the matter, and stand firmly by them.

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VC Chat & Support / Re: The AllBeast Method.
« on: February 18, 2022, 05:19:17 AM »
just for statistics, that last landing on ship grind with rotation taked 500 attempts from me to make it like that, multiple it to 1 minute for try or more and now you can see how "easy" it was
And for the record, I hope I was clear in saying how what you were doing certainly was not 'easy'. But I still feel it isn't right, either, not in terms of what I consider to be legitimate, unmodded stunting.

It still made life easier for yourself in achieving what you were after.

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VC Chat & Support / Re: The AllBeast Method.
« on: February 18, 2022, 05:02:00 AM »

You think having multiple checkpoints to do stunts is a good thing because...to save time? So you're happy for the initial challenge part of stunting to be nullified, am I understanding your logic correctly?

Stunting was never about making things easier for ourselves. We have convenient tools for stunting, yes - spawners, teleporters - but nothing that would actually directly affect landing the stunt. That was meant to boil down to luck, skill, perseverance.

If you can't be fucked to put in the effort, then stop trying. Goodbye.
that's all fine and dandy, but it's still just your perspective that you are trying to shove down my throat for whatever reason. what it was/was meant to be/whatever is still anyone's interpretation

I'd also say I've recently considered doing something vaguely similar in pausing the game mid attempt, capturing a video replay, and then using it to assess what I should do next, before unpausing. I struggle to see how that could be considered 'modding' and is probably something I'd be fine with if people were using that in videos. Allbeast's version is a further extension of that in many ways.

there were attempts of cutting sa replays and molding them together in sa, which were supposedly successful, this is just a second hand information though - some better informed people than me could probably say more
Using your sort of logic, teleporting a vehicle to a roof is an acceptable method of achieving a stunt.

That's how I interpret what you're saying anyway.

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VC Chat & Support / Re: The AllBeast Method.
« on: February 18, 2022, 03:15:25 AM »
good to see stunting has finally been solved

surely people would not want to spend hundreds of hours on spots anymore because they've already moved on with their life and have something else going... right?

some funny comments around, especially from people who mainly land boosts in vc, which are essentially 99% roulette where you have no control at all past getting off the wall (and thats a good thing!!!!)

fixing missing roof textures to give some boost to activity of the game is le bad... because it just is ok? (only neo anderson fixes allowed!)

fixing slow roads in sa is le bad... because it just is ok ?

cutting down the hours on attempts is le bad because I'm too personally invested to have a conversation ok???



Holy shit what brillant a display of modding :lol: Definitely a better take on cutting stunts mid-way than your DSS mate luli :) Only TBV could defend that. Go watch some ATS videos and reformulate your idea of stunting :)

Haywire, what are those M50 pads?
post from your main account schizo

also can someone post actual video with no reaction that doesnt add anything at all to it ?

another thing: still waiting for fckr to post his method (which is actual modding)
If you really want more time to enjoy life, just fuck the fuck off from stunting altogether. Have I helped you gain more free time?
take a break until you stop seething this hard
You think having multiple checkpoints to do stunts is a good thing because...to save time? So you're happy for the initial challenge part of stunting to be nullified, am I understanding your logic correctly?

Stunting was never about making things easier for ourselves. We have convenient tools for stunting, yes - spawners, teleporters - but nothing that would actually directly affect landing the stunt. That was meant to boil down to luck, skill, perseverance.

If you can't be fucked to put in the effort, then stop trying. Goodbye.

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VC Chat & Support / Re: The AllBeast Method.
« on: February 18, 2022, 03:08:17 AM »
good to see stunting has finally been solved

surely people would not want to spend hundreds of hours on spots anymore because they've already moved on with their life and have something else going... right?

some funny comments around, especially from people who mainly land boosts in vc, which are essentially 99% roulette where you have no control at all past getting off the wall (and thats a good thing!!!!)

fixing missing roof textures to give some boost to activity of the game is le bad... because it just is ok? (only neo anderson fixes allowed!)

fixing slow roads in sa is le bad... because it just is ok ?

cutting down the hours on attempts is le bad because I'm too personally invested to have a conversation ok???



Holy shit what brillant a display of modding :lol: Definitely a better take on cutting stunts mid-way than your DSS mate luli :) Only TBV could defend that. Go watch some ATS videos and reformulate your idea of stunting :)

Haywire, what are those M50 pads?
post from your main account schizo

also can someone post actual video with no reaction that doesnt add anything at all to it ?

another thing: still waiting for fckr to post his method (which is actual modding)
If you really want more time to enjoy life, just fuck the fuck off from stunting altogether. Have I helped you gain more free time?

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VC Chat & Support / Re: The AllBeast Method.
« on: February 18, 2022, 01:56:03 AM »
Would you be willing to invest 10000~ (and probably even more) hours on a single stunt that will be only seen and appreciated by a handful of people?
I have. It made landing it after all that time worth it.

Even after someone else used this cheap method to land it before me.

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VC Chat & Support / Re: The AllBeast Method.
« on: February 17, 2022, 04:52:40 PM »
I honestly cannot believe, Beast, that you thought that this is legitimate.

Is it a very laborious and tedious process? Absolutely.

Is it still difficult to get a good end product? Of course.

Is it legitmate stunting? In my opinion, absolutely not.

We have, and have always, valued the worth of a stunt as one seperate, whole event. From start to finish, the stunt has been done in one go. There was no checkpoints in between a bump and a landing, or to save the game every couple of frames to maintain a perfect RAD, or anything else like that. It relied on a stunter's wits to do what they had to do quickly, and effectively.

It baffles me that save states do not break replays and interrupt them. But how anyone can possibly think that stunting with this convoluted method be an acceptable form of what we would call 'unmodded' stunting. It goes completely against the spirit of what makes stunting such a rewarding experience for people, for those who have spent many hours of their silly little lives trying to land a stunt as perfectly as they can just to make a little video on the internet for a handful of folk to enjoy and appreciate - I'm amazed you felt any pride in your videos at all knowing you were stunting with such a method Beast. I certainly would not, in your shoes.

You're a clever boy.

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