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GTA Series => Grand Theft Auto - V => V Tutorials => Topic started by: THEFTman on August 18, 2015, 09:38:45 AM

Title: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: THEFTman on August 18, 2015, 09:38:45 AM
Hey there!

The game was out for some time now, but still there isn't any decent tutorial or info about basic things in the game to start stunting.
Me, being a total noob still can't understand how the hell everyone fly over whole map after a simple bump. I can get some roofs easily, but nothing compared to the skyscrapers everyone else get.

Anyway, I decided to start all over again, and dig some info in the game to get myself ready for stunting.

Here's the video comparison of all the bikes in the game (except PCJ and some slow, big bikes which I was not interested in). The speed comparison in the video shows a timer of completion the track. All the bikes were upgraded to the max.

                    Top speed   Acceleration   Wheelie   Mass
                       (mph)       (out of 10)                   (kg)

Akuma               120              10            Bad             250
Vader                 108              7             Bad              230
Ruffian               110              8.5          Good             250
Carbon RS          111              7.5           Bad              250
Bati 801             118              7.5          Good             230
Hackuchou         117               x            Good             250
Nemesis             108              7.5           Bad              250
Thrust                117               x            Good            270
Double T            117              7.5           Bad             200
Lectro                107               x             Bad             250

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Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: Shifftee on August 19, 2015, 06:40:49 AM
So what you're saying is Akuma is faster, quicker and lighter than Hakouchu? I don't think so.
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: BIGpoppaKEGdog on August 19, 2015, 06:47:11 AM
Vanilla is furiously masturbating in a corner somewhere he's so excited about this post right now.
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: Kingalmighty on August 19, 2015, 07:05:03 AM
Quote from: BIGpoppaKEGdog on August 19, 2015, 06:47:11 AM
Vanilla is furiously masturbating in a corner somewhere he's so excited about this post right now.

Vanilla is the 3kliksphillip of Gtastunting
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: THEFTman on August 19, 2015, 09:57:18 AM
Quote from: Shifftee on August 19, 2015, 06:40:49 AM
So what you're saying is Akuma is faster, quicker and lighter than Hakouchu? I don't think so.
You can alctually look that up in the handling file itself, if you dont believe the gameplay video ;)
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: OrangeW on August 19, 2015, 10:02:40 AM
I think the ratings of wheelies should go Bad - Good - Great, since some bikes have good wheelies (like the Bati), while some bikes have fantastic wheelibility (like the Hakuchou and the Ruffian)
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: VaNilla on August 19, 2015, 01:47:45 PM
Nice work and good effort, but this is missing some vital information :ajaja:. More important than top speed on the airport runway is the maximum flat velocity value, which determines the top speed vehicles are capable of approaching. This capability is determined by values such as drag, driveforce (acceleration), and mass, which is why most vehicles fail to reach their maximum flat velocity while driving. Now with regards to mass, I understand why you picked it as a representation of gliding ability, but drag is just as important as mass (study drag if you don't understand). You've also listed the incorrect mass values for the Bati 801 and the Hakuchou, which are 230 and 250 respectively.

Maximum Flat Velocity Values

Akuma = 145mph
Bagger = 130mph
Bati 801/801RR = 150mph
Carbon RS = 145mph
Daemon = 135mph
Double T = 147mph
Enduro = 119mph
Faggio = 90mph
Hakuchou = 152mph
Hexer = 135mph
Innovation = 135mph
Lectro = 140mph
Nemesis = 140mph
PCJ 600 = 130mph
Police Bike = 135mph
Ruffian = 140mph
Sanchez = 118mph
Sovereign = 135mph
Thrust = 152mph
Vader = 140mph
Vindicator = 148mph

Finally we must recognise that a completely flat surface isn't an accurate test of real-world top speed. Vehicles gain much more speed downhill, especially while doing a wheelie, and most roads have bumps and curbs which allow you to pull higher wheelies to reach higher speeds more quickly. The Bati 801, Carbon RS, Double T, Hakuchou, Thrust and Vindicator pull WAY ahead under the circumstances. For these reasons, I can't stand by your findings.
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: OrangeW on August 19, 2015, 02:55:11 PM
^

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Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: ShuffleCrown on August 20, 2015, 03:58:13 AM
NERD. :Disgusted:
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: MrCooper on August 20, 2015, 05:02:03 PM
Lol this is exactly why i dont post any tutorials here, and the one time i did i got rekt
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: THEFTman on August 21, 2015, 01:59:27 AM
Quote from: VaNilla on August 19, 2015, 01:47:45 PM
Finally we must recognise that a completely flat surface isn't an accurate test of real-world top speed. Vehicles gain much more speed downhill, especially while doing a wheelie, and most roads have bumps and curbs which allow you to pull higher wheelies to reach higher speeds more quickly. The Bati 801, Carbon RS, Double T, Hakuchou, Thrust and Vindicator pull WAY ahead under the circumstances. For these reasons, I can't stand by your findings.
you forgot to say "theoretically".
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: ShuffleCrown on August 21, 2015, 04:52:58 AM
Quote from: MrCooper on August 20, 2015, 05:02:03 PM
Lol this is exactly why i dont post any tutorials here, and the one time i did i got rekt

:D :D
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: FIGHTER on August 21, 2015, 06:18:58 AM
Quote from: OrangeW on August 19, 2015, 02:55:11 PM
^

(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150107020612/lalaloopsyland/images/b/b8/Rekt.jpg)

lol
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: VaNilla on August 21, 2015, 09:03:01 AM
Quote from: THEFTman on August 21, 2015, 01:59:27 AM
you forgot to say "theoretically".

Ah but that is not theoretical, that is fact :Disgusted:.
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: THEFTman on August 21, 2015, 09:07:41 AM
Quote from: VaNilla on August 21, 2015, 09:03:01 AM
Quote from: THEFTman on August 21, 2015, 01:59:27 AM
you forgot to say "theoretically".

Ah but that is not theoretical, that is fact :Disgusted:.
Yes, it is pretty practical, but noone actually is doing maths while stunting. Player just need the naked thruth which bike is fastest/lightest on paper. You choose the best one for a particular spot. And if you bail alot - you choose another bike.
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: OrangeW on August 21, 2015, 09:18:52 AM
Quote from: THEFTman on August 21, 2015, 09:07:41 AM
Quote from: VaNilla on August 21, 2015, 09:03:01 AM
Quote from: THEFTman on August 21, 2015, 01:59:27 AM
you forgot to say "theoretically".

Ah but that is not theoretical, that is fact :Disgusted:.
Yes, it is pretty practical, but noone actually is doing maths while stunting.

I do :L - doing 1 minute runups can be boring as fuck and I got school work to do, and I'll have learnt the runup thanks to muscle memory so why not :lol:

Also what makes or breaks a bike is normally it's ability to wheelie - it's common knowledge that only Ruffian / Bati / Hakuchou can pull high enough wheelies to actually be viable for stunting (though I think Carbon RS belongs with this group, especially since it's speed gain is fucking redonkulous) - it's all cool to know how quickly a bike can accelerate and how fast it can go without a wheelie, but bikes that I listed are far ahead of the others because, as you may know, wheelie = better acceleration, and other bikes cannot pull a wheelie, therefore the 3 (or 4) bikes are better due to added acceleration ability

I went on too long  :Disgusted:
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: THEFTman on August 21, 2015, 10:07:57 AM
Quote from: OrangeW on August 21, 2015, 09:18:52 AM
it's all cool to know how quickly a bike can accelerate and how fast it can go without a wheelie, but bikes that I listed are far ahead of the others because, as you may know, wheelie = better acceleration, and other bikes cannot pull a wheelie, therefore the 3 (or 4) bikes are better due to added acceleration ability.
And these are exactly the bikes that have most highlights in my results tab. Except for Ruffian, but with decent runup it's pretty damn good bike for high bumps which need higher wheelie.
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: VaNilla on August 21, 2015, 10:53:55 AM
The math is important because it saves you time figuring out which bike to use when you already know the answer.
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: Madmax on August 21, 2015, 11:05:45 AM
Quote from: VaNilla on August 21, 2015, 10:53:55 AM
The math is important because it saves you time figuring out which bike to use when you already know the answer.

The Faggio is always the answer.
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: OrangeW on August 21, 2015, 11:12:06 AM
Quote from: Madmax on August 21, 2015, 11:05:45 AM
Quote from: VaNilla on August 21, 2015, 10:53:55 AM
The math is important because it saves you time figuring out which bike to use when you already know the answer.

The Faggio is always the answer.

Why we gotta underestimate the Double T :(

also - 999 posts 4 u  :Disgusted:
Title: Re: Motorcycles comparison
Post by: Trialz on September 03, 2015, 11:58:00 AM
But thats just a THEORY, GTA STUNTING THEORY! Thanks for reading!

*Crawls back in the hole I came from
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