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« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2016, 02:35:16 AM »
Yeah, that would be a great idea if half of the videos would have an original score.
A lot of commercial music is now on Content ID so when you upload something to youtube and the music belongs to somebody else, it gets detected and you are restricted from monitising it. Instead the ad revenue goes to the copyright owner. So a lot of videos can go up... you just won't earn anything from them.

The internet is huge. GTAS has no presence at all. I'd never heard of it until actually being referred here directly. Would never have joined if I wasn't an old geezer familiar with forums. No stunter, good or bad will just stumble upon this place.

There's a lot that could be done. Simply opening social media accounts under the GTAS name would be a good start- youtube, twitter, facebook, instagram etc. Then post a message and invite everybody from GTAS to contribute/participate. Things would grow faster than you might think if people worked together. There are also mobile apps for various kinds of forum software if you really wanted to push user participation (esp when it comes to the younger stunters) but that would require $$ and expertise... neither of which I have.

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« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2016, 02:44:21 AM »
As far is I know, there is a gtastunting facebook page , gtastunting twitter and also a subreddit, but no one really takes care of them

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« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2016, 03:02:58 AM »
The solution to fixing GTAStunting is clear, but people are missing the most obvious thing of all. Someone needs to spend time making a new destination, and who's going to do that? GTAStunting is no longer necessary, and it's also antiquated, so why would people visit in vast numbers? Someone previously said that I try to bring new members to GTAStunting, but outside of using the logo in videos, that's not true at all. I don't recommend GTAStunting to anybody, because there is no advantage to being a member of the forums, and the community is often extremely hostile. That's not to mention how unenthusiastic most GTAStunting members are about GTA V stunting.

As long as we don't have someone who's willing to update the forums, and experienced in web design, GTAStunting will stay exactly where it is. If you want GTAStunting as a community to survive, I'd recommend getting on reddit at https://www.reddit.com/r/gtastunts, or https://www.reddit.com/r/gtastunting if you want to build up our own subreddit. This removes all the problems with accessibility, infrastructure and web design, while additionally opening up the community to a wider audience.
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« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2016, 03:12:28 AM »
Someone needs to spend time making a new destination, and who's going to do that? GTAStunting is no longer necessary, and it's also antiquated, so why would people visit in vast numbers?
As far is I know, there is a gtastunting facebook page , gtastunting twitter and also a subreddit, but no one really takes care of them
Seems like the biggest problem is nobody taking charge and making the changes people want to see

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« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2016, 03:14:34 AM »
Right, but why would you take charge? What are you achieving by updating the website? Web design takes a lot of work, especially when you're making a good one, and if GTAStunting lacks purpose, why would you spend your time on it? People need to understand that those who are experienced enough to make good websites have jobs, so they're unlikely to work on GTAStunting unless there's a good reason.

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« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2016, 03:31:10 AM »
Right, but why would you take charge? What are you achieving by updating the website? Web design takes a lot of work, especially when you're making a good one, and if GTAStunting lacks purpose, why would you spend your time on it? People need to understand that those who are experienced enough to make good websites have jobs, so they're unlikely to work on GTAStunting unless there's a good reason.
Good point.

I'm new, totally naive to what has happened here in the past and kinda enthusiastic to actually find a stunting community so you'll have to forgive me.

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« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2016, 03:36:23 AM »
No problem dude :P. Just to be clear, I'm not counting out the possibility of GTAStunting existing and thriving as a website. But to get to that point, we need someone who has talent and motivation to work on the website. They need a return on their investment, whether that comes through satisfaction or monetary reimbursement. That is why I find it highly unlikely that we will update the website, and that is why I think we're better off existing on sites like Reddit as well as our own forums. You can do all the same things, and more; it solves so many problems.

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« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2016, 03:51:11 AM »
Most of what I think is coming off the back of a flippant tweet I sent in reply to the SBMX/Evolve merger https://twitter.com/NOdab88/status/690974628362194945

It kinda struck me as such a simple idea I was surprised nobody had done it already.... then forest mentioned gtastunting around the same time waken/lobbin had been encouraging me to join. So I joined expecting a thriving community and I guess I was a little disappointed (no offence... my expectations were clearly too high!). In an ideal world I'd like to see that one unified stunting hub... for all games, all GTAs, JCs, Watchdogs, fallout, trackmania... any game where you would 'stunt'. But that's just me and I don't see much appetite for stunts outside of GTA.

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« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2016, 08:06:27 AM »
I still think reviving the GTAS YouTube channel and uploading only non-copyright stuff is a good idea
Yeah, that would be a great idea if half of the videos would have an original score. I think it would be cool if there were more people actively making music for stunt videos. It would turn this place both into something like the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoscene]demoscene https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoscene[/url], where you have both coders and music makers. It would make the best soundtrack of the year category a lot more interesting too.

How exactly does copyright strikes work? For example lets take this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac3J2NrXKhg

Which is all over YouTube and whatever, but if you tried to monetize said video would it get flagged and result in a strike? Or is it only certain restricted songs.  It'd be cool if people made their own music which Sorcery has done a couple of times but most stunters have their work cut out for them landing enough stunts and editing never mind producing their own stuff. Still there's a metric shitton of free non copyright music out there.

While a combined site for all stunting would be good and result in a larger community I personally think it end up with V vids dominating said site and releasing a VC/SA vid there would be like pissing into the wind. Plus as VaNilla has already mentioned it takes a fuckton of work/design/hosting fees to even put together a website.

The Reddits are cool but I think it just repels the majority of the VC/SA stunters since it's also 100% V stuff which could be changed if people also released VC/SA stuff there but again with the amount of V content released compared to VC/SA it'd quickly be drowned out.
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« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2016, 07:10:01 AM »
Not to mention I still have no clue who this AJ guy is and why he owns GTAS.  :|

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« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2016, 09:56:06 AM »
If I remember right AJ was a friend of FlatFace who was hosting some other GTA related website called RockstarNexus and he offered to host it under his network hence the black bar at the top saying RockstarNexus Network :P

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's right.

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« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2016, 12:48:50 PM »
Blaze for admin.

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« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2016, 01:58:00 PM »
make a gtas wiki

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« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2016, 02:24:43 PM »
imo I think a shit ton of user friendly video based tutorials for stunting would be good instead of a Wiki that's just a shit ton of information. Infact I vaguely remember a Wiki existed a while ago about the history from 03/04 to maybe 08?

Or even if we had a solid front page with like a history of GTAS, prominent stunters, then links to tutorials and stuff. Maybe someone has all the old video tutorials from Nitzkit, Fugitive etc?

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« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2016, 02:41:46 PM »
imo I think a shit ton of user friendly video based tutorials for stunting would be good instead of a Wiki that's just a shit ton of information. Infact I vaguely remember a Wiki existed a while ago about the history from 03/04 to maybe 08?

Or even if we had a solid front page with like a history of GTAS, prominent stunters, then links to tutorials and stuff. Maybe someone has all the old video tutorials from Nitzkit, Fugitive etc?
I just tried to give an idea but as I see yours is better

 

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