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Title: Trial By Fire
Post by: kaneda on June 16, 2007, 07:46:41 PM
Okay...so here tis - the new crew vid. Just a few things to note about this one:

- Daffy is a guest stunter. Unfortunately working him into the official intro was gonna prove too much of a pain. The intro was done before he was 'officially' in the vid, so there's no definitive mention of him as a guest stunter.
- The intro and outro were created by Neo. I didn't mention it in the credits as it was gonna push an already long vid even longer.
- As mentioned, the vid is long - 11:23. This, naturally, pushed up the vid's file size. Low and toob renders will be forthcoming soon. The stunts don't run the entire length, there's just a lot of cinematic content. We just had fun with it and made it into a show.
- Neo's workload on this particular vid is STAGGERING. Thanks so much to him for the tremendous amount of work he put in.

Anyways....with that outta the way, here's the link. We hope you enjoy it.

Trial By Fire (http://files.filefront.com/ATS+Trial+By+Firewmv/;7804299;;/fileinfo.html)
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Trial By Fire (MegaUpload HQ) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X7NWTGBC)
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Trial By Fire (Youtube streaming) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7l_MOZQTdk#)
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Trial By Fire (Google Video streaming) (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1730277152162709003)
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Aries on June 16, 2007, 07:47:22 PM
Twas nice working with you all guys  It's been great and this is a hell of a video.

Hope you enjoy people! :grin:
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Neo Anderson on June 16, 2007, 07:49:16 PM
Damn you Aries, stealin first post  
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: brandon6199 on June 16, 2007, 07:50:56 PM
dling
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Kingjad on June 16, 2007, 07:51:30 PM
Heya guys, just gonna sneak my comment in here and say I'm currently downloading. I'll take care of YouTube, and I also have an alternative streaming surprise for later on for you. But YouTube will come first. Downloading now
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: godson on June 16, 2007, 07:53:09 PM
OMFG DLING
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Post by: Cody on June 16, 2007, 07:55:52 PM
dling
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Post by: FIGHTER on June 16, 2007, 07:56:01 PM
Great Vid Good Editing and The stunts are Fucking Nice 10/10   (end of the vid was LOL)
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Post by: Rocka on June 16, 2007, 07:58:18 PM
I'm honored to be one of the first people to download this thing. lol I'll watch on FileFront first. The 218 MB is worth it.
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Neo Anderson on June 16, 2007, 08:06:06 PM
Truely an awesome production Kan. Congrats to the crew on an awesome outing.
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: brandon6199 on June 16, 2007, 08:07:22 PM
ahaha at the end

nice vid guys, standouts for me were dannye, docta luv, and kaneda. you guys pulled off some really creative stuff in here.

great stunts in there, with some old ones, i really hated the music, and i didnt like that it was black and white-ish.

the scripting part was outstanding, everything was extremely well planned

i might write a full review later, but good vid guys, 8/10
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Post by: godson on June 16, 2007, 08:12:48 PM
omg awesome loved the little theme going on and the stunts wonderful its like you guys never lets us down  

edit: Daffy got jumped by ATS lmao

10/10
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Laketown on June 16, 2007, 08:14:43 PM
great vid. full review coming soon
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: KING on June 16, 2007, 08:16:11 PM
 dling times 100000000000000 great time to post it its 11pm over here
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Aries on June 16, 2007, 08:24:30 PM
 Nice work everybody involved, though seeing LQ, watching it again on HQ just made me tingle.

Haha Neo sucker-punched Samurai in the end!
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Rocka on June 16, 2007, 08:26:32 PM
Well, I watched it on Filefront, but there's still about 10 minutes until it's done downloading. There were pros and cons to it, but overall I loved the video.

Kaneda was my favorite in here. Although everyone else did exceptionally well, I thought he stood out the most. That stunt at the construction site was incredible. The editing was good and such, but other stuff annoyed me. I disliked the main song. The whole black and white thing took away what I thought could've been a better video.

But still, it's the stunts that matter, not the editing. So you all win a cookie, baked with love.

Nice job guys, I can't wait for the next ATS video.
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Post by: Dannye on June 16, 2007, 08:30:35 PM
I really enjoyed being a part of this, and I also really enjoyed watching the final product. Nice work guys!

Now all thats left to do is watch this in all its HQ glory
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Post by: KING on June 16, 2007, 08:30:41 PM
lmfao at cinematics great job to all 8/10 music eh mozart rules though
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Post by: Valikai on June 16, 2007, 08:33:48 PM
w00t! Watching Low, while I download the HQ.
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Kingjad on June 16, 2007, 08:55:21 PM
Loved watching Daffy getting the shit smacked out of him  hehe, hilarious.
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: dust_N_bone on June 16, 2007, 09:36:58 PM
I need a youtube link ,thx
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Post by: Daffy on June 16, 2007, 09:37:24 PM
FUCKING HELL MY HEART SKIPPED A BEAT!!!
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: NoAPOlogies on June 16, 2007, 09:39:06 PM
Downloading this monstrosity...

Getting decent speed from FileFront.
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Krow+ on June 16, 2007, 09:39:39 PM
Samurai finally stunts but he can't post?

EDIT:

Stunts: 9.5/10
Editing: 10/10
Music:
--Intro: 10/10
--Main: 6/10
--Outro: Who cares?
Overall: 9.5/10

Stunts/Spots Lost:
Neo's P2B | 3:45 | Bailed
Arie's P2B | 4:07 | Challenge(Denny)
Nizkit's Percision | 5:40 | Idea
MadMax's Skimmer | 5:50 | Landed
Docta Lux's P2B | 6:42 | Idea
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Dannye on June 16, 2007, 09:41:37 PM
You were a great guest Daff, your stunts were top notch.
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Torque on June 16, 2007, 09:46:54 PM
Thanks a lot you guys, now I won't be able to get any sleep as I anxiously await to download this.

And it's too late for me to DL this since I'm about to go sleep.

Curse you ATS and your late night antics!
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: kaneda on June 16, 2007, 09:55:35 PM
First post updated with MegaUpload link.

Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Daffy on June 16, 2007, 10:08:52 PM
Quote from: Kingjad
Loved watching Daffy getting the shit smacked out of him  hehe, hilarious.
Since you couldn't do it?
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: godson on June 16, 2007, 10:09:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ach9Byn2ND4...ted&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ach9Byn2ND4&mode=related&search=)
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Torque on June 16, 2007, 10:17:08 PM
This one was...a bit different than the rest. I loved all of Dannye's stunts and his were the ones that kept me on the edge of my seat.

I just didn't have a feel for the vid. However the editing was superb and the intro and outros were great, the last tid bit was...yea...

Nice vid.
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Ferσή on June 16, 2007, 10:17:37 PM
dling fuck yeah i wasent expecting this to come out i havent seen any stunts from it either :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD yeah
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: jessrocked on June 16, 2007, 10:18:26 PM
downloading @ 1kBps, seriously..  ill w8 for eternity..

or maybe the yewtyoob will do...

im trembling.. lol
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: NoAPOlogies on June 16, 2007, 10:21:10 PM
I'll comment as I watch:

- I want the letters ATS to show up on my dam as well!
- Damn, this intro is tight! How do you guys do that? Lots of main.scm work?
- Dammit, someone show me how to FBI bump! Pleeze?
- Gee Daffy, that stunt looked familiar
- 3:40 Finally someone pulled a grind out of that old spot
- 4:24 I would love to see someone land on that... maybe that someone could be me!
- Oh!! SA Grenade boosting action!!!
- Couple of sick-house grinds from Daffy and Aries
- Jeez Daf, save some for the WH vid
- I'm digging this second song. It was used in Bloodlines right?  
- Ha ha! Daffy ruined all y'alls bikes! lolololololol
- Run Dafffffff!!! The bikes slowed them down!! But you can't get off that island!
- W00t! Giant Kaneda!!!
- 10:19 Disregard what I wrote earlier about someone landing on that
- ROFL at the end!!!

The stunts were outstanding as per the usual in an ATS vid, however for an 11 and a half minute vid I would've like to see more stunts (or shorten the vid). I just wasn't in to some of the other stuff, although it really looked great.
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Ferσή on June 16, 2007, 10:52:19 PM
I'm going to be honest here. I think you guys need to take some criticism because most people don't have the balls to say it. Ever since Mut8tion, I have seen ATS go down hill, as in your last 2 videos. Don't get me wrong The Awakening was good, but It just didn't live up to the others, and neither did this. (Neo did a great job tho.) I understand that the members of ATS have became increasingly busy, but the crew has doubled in size and I have not seen any improvement. It seems you guys were better off before the merge. Maybe now that you have a shoulder to lean on you're not using your feet as much as you used to.

It seemed as you spent more time and thought on the intro, scripting, and all the effects in the video, then you did on the stunts. The stunts were good but it seemed like the same old thing I have seen in every other ATS video. Back in the day you guys used to manage to be creative, and push the limits of stunting, but now your stunting within the set bounds and you can tell. Maybe you guys need to realize that some stunts do require RADS method. You have always been the types to bring new stuff into stunting, and now it seems like your rejecting what others have brought. Maybe you should except the new wave of stunting and build upon that. Basically what I am saying is that your video seemed kind of generic, and it had some old stunts as well. I'm not saying that your video dident have a wow factor because you didn't conform, it is defiantly unique and a awesome video, but it was lacking somthing.

Besides for what I pointed out it was a great video. You still haven't toped your selves, but that's ok because I understand you guys are in it for fun now, and are no longer dedicated to stunting.

I feel bad posting this because I don't want to discourage you guys, I think its awesome to see most of the ATS guys together in a video, especially Samurai.
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Post by: kaneda on June 16, 2007, 11:21:47 PM
I can understand and do respect your post, Feron...but it seems like you're too quick to stack everyone up against everyone else. If everyone stunted the same, this place would be dullsville. If I was to ever start wanting to outstunt everyone here...I'd quickly give it up. It's not worth busting your balls for.

Saying more time seemed to spent on effects and scripting than was spent on the stunts is a bit rough too. It diminishes stunts that some of us (MOST of us, in fact) spent a lot of time on. Whether anyone considers them to be good or bad is not that relevant (to me, at least). They're mostly personal challenges.

Everyone IS doing different things now, and the amount of time we have isn't what it used to be. Aries is in school, as is Dannye. Sam's working two jobs, I'm running a business and have to have time with my girlfriend (who's more important than anything), Nitz has started working AND has classes, I believe. Try to keep in mind that most of the members of ATS are over 20, and have responsibilities and commitments outside stunting. The vid is what it is...a show. The members didn't stunt, and I didn't edit to cater to anyone apart from the boys in the crew. If ya like it, great...if ya don't...great .

I'm not trying to make any excuses (mainly because I don't need to), I'm just trying to give you an idea of why we might be tapering off somewhat. Everyone's lives are moving in different directions. Don't take offense to my response to your criticism...I actually appreciate someone who has the wan-tans to say what they think. I just thought some of your points weren't really well thought out. But thanks for the response  

P.S. I'll die before I resort to RAD's...hehe.
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Ferσή on June 16, 2007, 11:32:17 PM
Quote from: kaneda
I can understand and do respect your post, Feron...but it seems like you're too quick to stack everyone up against everyone else. If everyone stunted the same, this place would be dullsville. If I was to ever start wanting to outstunt everyone here...I'd quickly give it up. It's not worth busting your balls for.
Dont mind response to your response but I was talking about topping your selves, and not everyone else. Just wanted to clear that up. Thanks for responding and not getting all pissy.
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Flat Face on June 17, 2007, 12:16:10 AM
oo i just know this is gona pwn!...madmax told me this was in the works adges ago lol ...nitzkit did the intro right? he just eats up all other intro's and spits them out!...lol ...i he should stunt the ats sign...lmao
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: M!kE333 on June 17, 2007, 12:24:39 AM
Downloading
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Post by: Flat Face on June 17, 2007, 12:27:19 AM
hey madmax did my pizzaboy grind!..lol aww it wasnt as good as i was hoping..but i guess im just saw because i did like 5 stunts in their n hadnt used em yet...awhell...*madmax...its on! lol*
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Kingjad on June 17, 2007, 12:33:53 AM
Trial by Fire - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7l_MOZQTdk)

I recommend downloading the HQ all the same guys.

Neo did all the scripting I think that you seen in this video...certainly the intro and outro, definitely.

I enjoyed the video. The black/white thing seemed to have a negative impact though, almost as if it drained the excitement a bit. It was a very unique video, and I did not want it to end. I was expecting some stunts to keep flowing and was a bit sad to see that it didn't, but ATS have to be given respect for being different due to a fair portion of the crew being literal adults - as in they can legally vote, they have education AND jobs to juggle, their own familes (in Neo's case) and such. This is who ATS are. Dannye, Docta Luv, Kid A and Aries need to stop being considered as 'formerly DSU' as well, they are ATS as well and don't disappoint. I found it hard to accept the merge at first, but it's working out quite fine.

Feron - I'm sure the upcoming WH vid will counter for the lack of RAD's method shown in this stunt video...  I accept the method but I don't use it, so let's end it at that
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Ferσή on June 17, 2007, 12:40:40 AM
I was just using RADS as a example. There are other new methods too. I knew I shouldent have critisized this shit because you guys are just gonna tear apart every word I said.
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Kingjad on June 17, 2007, 12:45:14 AM
Aries had a brand new stunt method in this video, though...and Madmax had a true proper double AG!!!
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Post by: Flat Face on June 17, 2007, 12:46:02 AM
well it wasnt as good as it should of been...i think a shorter vid excluding the  nooby stunts...would of been beter
...but im still gona add 2 my youtube soon
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: brandon6199 on June 17, 2007, 12:47:36 AM
If people cant understand feron's point of view, which is completely well said and expressed his opinions on the matter in a mature way, then that's pretty said. He is in no way putting ATS down, hell, he's trying to help ATS

I dont know if i said that correctly, but respect feron's opinion. If thats his opinion than we should respect that, instead of critizing him and saying, "OH WELL LETS SEE YOU DO BETTER."

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Post by: Wozzie on June 17, 2007, 12:49:31 AM
Dling !
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Post by: Aries on June 17, 2007, 01:04:34 AM
Feron that's cool that you have your opinions, but the merge didn't make a different to the 'greatness' of ATS videos, thats the only thing I seriously object to, the others well thats your opinion.
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Post by: sys32 on June 17, 2007, 01:06:57 AM
Hey, this one is Really Good. Some GTA3 School
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Post by: PlethZorb on June 17, 2007, 01:11:42 AM
Doods, rad rad vid. Awesome. Pure Inspiration!

Really well done doods
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Post by: Rev on June 17, 2007, 01:19:14 AM
Oh my god  downloading!
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Post by: GriMm on June 17, 2007, 01:31:17 AM
dling
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Post by: ImPaKt on June 17, 2007, 01:32:14 AM
Wasn't Nitz' LC rock bank bump 2 diner sign stunt from an old ATS vid done by Kaneda?
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Post by: sony on June 17, 2007, 01:32:20 AM
OMFG
DOWNLOADING     Cant wait
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Xtramus on June 17, 2007, 01:35:39 AM
Quote from: ImPaKt
Wasn't Nitz' LC rock bank bump 2 diner sign stunt from an old ATS vid done by Kaneda?
Bingo.
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Post by: Aries on June 17, 2007, 01:37:53 AM
It's a new stunt because he did it without the packer..... (Although I still think thats a tad weak to be honest)
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Post by: ImPaKt on June 17, 2007, 01:44:10 AM
Same stunt, new runup

Rest of the video was insane guys. The B&W effect was a great idea and really paid off.

How the hell did you do those stop motion shots? After the intro the frozen stunter with camera moving... WTF? HOW?
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Post by: Kenny on June 17, 2007, 01:48:32 AM
Who edited the movie?

The editing was absolutely perfect. I mean, he synched EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING. Only the songs didn't do it. Prodigy is good, but I seriously, do hate them.

The stunts were great, some were a bit done but who gives a fuck. They were top-notch and there were a few standouts but its great to see Samurai stunting again. That grind of his really made me want to stunt lol. There were a few stunts ruined by camera angles, such as Neo's friggin super awesome precision and high p2b, but hey, no one is perfect.

Great job on this one, the B&W effect would be great, but not for the whole video, just for some parts to synch with the music.


Great video.
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Post by: FIGHTER on June 17, 2007, 01:49:47 AM
Was there maybe 1 old stunt lol
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Post by: sony on June 17, 2007, 01:56:18 AM
Kaneda owned it  His wallride to grind and dropbump to that shit in LC
FUCKING NICE VIDEO GUYS
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Luky on June 17, 2007, 01:57:52 AM
Downloading
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Post by: kaneda on June 17, 2007, 02:12:16 AM
Quote from: ImPaKt
How the hell did you do those stop motion shots? After the intro the frozen stunter with camera moving... WTF? HOW?

DevConsole's 'gofreeze' function, and coded offset co-ord cam movements that were button triggered. Just a little set of threads and DevConsole needed. PM me if you wanna know more
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Post by: boxXx on June 17, 2007, 02:13:03 AM
downloading guys i was waiting a long tiem for this
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: HeX on June 17, 2007, 02:14:32 AM
watching now
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Post by: Fugitive on June 17, 2007, 02:21:59 AM
10/10

The stunts were perfect as always (no need for shoutouts because all stunts were awesome). The editing was great and the music added a bit of "the old ATS", which I liked.

Grats to all of you.
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Post by: HeX on June 17, 2007, 02:27:25 AM
i didnt like it much i didnt like the color scheme and some of the stunts were old as well
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Post by: Turtle Dick on June 17, 2007, 02:39:47 AM
Intro:
I loved it! Amazing job Neo, it's perfect. Did you get the idea from Jackass The Movie?

Stunts:
03.03 - Aries - Very smooth FBI bump. I love it how you didn't get huge height but just enough to get the roof.
03.09 - Madmax - I'm not a big fan of packerbumps but seeing them done on a Pizzaboy isn't bad.
03.14 - Aries - I think I tried this ages ago. Looking good man, haven't seen one of those in a while.
03.17 - Daffy - Great rotation on this one.
03.22 - Nitzkit - Really liked this one  Awesome natural stunt.
03.27 - kaneda - Poletab to precision gap  
03.31 - Samurai - Looks alot cleaner than THEFTman's version, good job!
03.38 - Docta Luv - A good grind done at a classic spot, very nice.
03.45 - Neo - Not a bad p2b, but I didn't particularly like it.
03.52 - Dannye - Great Infernus wallride  haven't seen one of those in ages!
04.08 - Aries - Great long distance p2b
04.15 - Dannye - Poletab to grind, well done!
04.22 - Docta Luv - A boat BB grind  
04.29 - Dannye - VC Catapulting! Awesome find man! You're the kr3mlin of VC!
04.36 - Aries - Impressive looking grind man!
04.46 - Daffy - Sweet grind combo  One of the best looking ones in the vid!
04.59 - NightKid - This has been done alot so I kinda expected you to land the higher part.
05.05 - Aries - We don't see alot of BB landings these days. Great BSM spin to BB!
05.09 - kaneda - Natural bump to precision landing!
05.13 - Neo - Old spot, new landing with a nice rotation.
05.19 - Madmax - A spin to grind in a Pizzaboy - awesome!
05.27 - Samurai - Great idea with a perfect execution!
05.33 - Ever since Neo got LC working you don't see him doing anything besides packerbumping everything  This one doesn't look easy to land.
05.40 - Nitzkit - This is how it should've been done. Who needs packers?
05.47 - Madmax - Sweet bridge gaps!
05.59 - Dannye - I think Question did it before but it really is an awesome cabbie stunt. Might be the only possible way to get on that roof too.
06.07 - kaneda -  Another awesome grind in this vid! Really impressive. One of my favorites!
06.16 - Nagual starts where kaneda ended - sweet grind combo man!
06.28 - Dannye - Haha didn't see that coming
06.37 - kaneda - How can anyone not like this? Bigass natural bump to precision landing  
06.42 - Docta Luv - A good height p2b to a small landing space, lookin good!
06.47 - Dannye - Creative little wallride combo you got going on here!
06.51 - Daffy - Awesome gap to grind!
06.58 - Nagual - Smooth old school combo.
07.04 - Aries - Nice new method but it doesn't look like it's gonna be very usefull. Another way to stuck something.
07.10 - Neo - Another one!  Liked the backwards landing on this, GJ!
07.14 - Samurai - Great palm spin to grind
07.27 - KidA - I thought you weren't gonna be in the vid but you pulled off a great natural stunt with a nice rotation!
07.31 - Madmax - 2 Pizzaboy stoppie combo double grabs - a great way to finish the vid. Good job!

Overall:
Another kickass video from ATS packed with awesome and creative stunts. You were trying something different with this video's style and I think what you wanted it to be turned out great. Editing went very well with the song choice. Overall I slightly prefer The Awakening over this one mainly because of the colors and song - but I shouldn't compare them seeing as how both vid got a totally different style.
Daffy getting beaten up in the end is priceless

Thanks for making this video ATS!
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Post by: boxXx on June 17, 2007, 02:46:41 AM
GJ guys i enjoyed watching it !!

but the intro was a bit long you could replace a minute of that with some stunts  

GJ guys !
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Post by: PlethZorb on June 17, 2007, 02:50:16 AM
Ahh I wish Sam didn't lame the palmtree2grind.....I've slid off below the bridge thrice now.

Did he land it?
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Post by: sony on June 17, 2007, 03:00:26 AM
Daffy did that in GTASL 3 (daffy vs cdarmy). He landed it
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Flyeer on June 17, 2007, 03:09:32 AM
Good Vid!
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Post by: corevil on June 17, 2007, 03:16:52 AM
wow, i was waiting for this  dudes great job you owned that game and editing was perfect
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Post by: VenomX on June 17, 2007, 03:28:56 AM
Wow, five pages already!  Downloading this .
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Tackleberry on June 17, 2007, 03:32:31 AM
I don't know what to say about this vid...

The stunts were great as always, but I had a really hard time "feeling" and "catching" them. I really don't know how to describe this, it's very hard.

It's really an unique vid. I have to watch it another time, will comment more later.
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Post by: KillaMarci on June 17, 2007, 03:40:44 AM
Holy motherfucking shit  DOWNLOADINGQ!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: PlethZorb on June 17, 2007, 04:00:13 AM
Quote from: sony
Daffy did that in GTASL 3 (daffy vs cdarmy). He landed it

No, he lamed it.

The OLD ATS IS BACK
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: brandon6199 on June 17, 2007, 04:03:18 AM
Fun Fact: daffy is the only one that used RAD's in this vid
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Post by: Turtle Dick on June 17, 2007, 04:04:50 AM
I thought so too but then I noticed Aries using it on his LC pb
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Post by: ofthemountain on June 17, 2007, 04:06:13 AM
Yeah, I have to say that the stunts weren't as good as they have been in the past. I just enjoyed watching it though, it was so well edited and the music gave it such an obscure, night time feel, as well as the black and white which would have lost that feel had it not been there. So incredibly different to The Awakening it's hard to believe it's the same people. There was some brilliant stuff by Docta Luv, Aries and Dannye I thought.

A couple of things that annoyed me: I don't think the name "Trial By Fire" suited the video's feel at all. Also, that bit at the end with the giants walking around, whist cool, seemed kind of tacked on for the sake of it. I thought that last scene beating the shit out of Daffy was should have lead straight into the credits and the giant idea should have been saved for future use. I dunno, it just felt kind of odd to have 2 outro themes.

The intro was just epic, I was totally in awe. Over all, the whole thing as a package was something totally original and unique, which in my eyes made it great.
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Post by: KillaMarci on June 17, 2007, 04:08:58 AM
It was a very nice video , but the music ruined it  7/10..
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Post by: LiveLife on June 17, 2007, 04:15:59 AM
Quote from: kaneda
Quote from: ImPaKt
How the hell did you do those stop motion shots? After the intro the frozen stunter with camera moving... WTF? HOW?

DevConsole's 'gofreeze' function, and coded offset co-ord cam movements that were button triggered. Just a little set of threads and DevConsole needed. PM me if you wanna know more

I want to know everything about it   Please write a tutorial, or pm me  

Awesome video, stunts were great, music, well, it's not good, but not bad, too. Editing is .. incredible.
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Post by: Emperatris on June 17, 2007, 04:20:25 AM
Great Vid From ATS
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Post by: Tackleberry on June 17, 2007, 04:31:26 AM
Think I know what to say now; Awesome vid.

To see you stunt is great and you didn't disappoint this time either. Dannye stunts were so awesome, all very different and perfectly executed. Everyone had some really nice stunts though, Daffy's grinds were sweet and kaneda seems always to do something crazy at that construction yard. What I missed would be some more stunts by Nagual, guess he hasn't been able to stunt that much for this vid (since that stoppie combo was sent to Interlocked too).

The editing was very cool and unique. I'm not sure if all "parts" of the vid fit that well together, but it sure was cool to watch. Don't really like the main song, but it worked ok. As always though, better quality wouldn't have hurt...

Another great ATS vid, thank you for still stunting.
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Post by: kilak on June 17, 2007, 04:34:29 AM
OMFG Dling !
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Post by: Labiloute on June 17, 2007, 04:38:44 AM
Dling
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Post by: M!kE333 on June 17, 2007, 04:39:03 AM
10/10
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Post by: Mickey! on June 17, 2007, 04:47:07 AM
Dling hq
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Post by: kilak on June 17, 2007, 04:47:11 AM
OMFG awesome vid !

9.5/10

nitzkit hit daffy lol ! i love this vid !

GG !
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Post by: TwistOfate on June 17, 2007, 05:08:13 AM
Awesome video the intro is just...... AWESOME so Good Job to all stunters 10/10 !
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Post by: DeathCobra on June 17, 2007, 05:10:06 AM
Dling
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Post by: Flat Face on June 17, 2007, 05:13:56 AM
hmm the intro alone made it 30 out of 10 for me lol ... ...people  their was also 1 more old stunt...im hating myself for this cause he's in my top 5 stunting idols...but...madmaxes pizzaboy stunt at 5:20....ok watch that now watch my stunt in breakthrough 2 ... at 4:39... just watch them...exept the i sent like 4 versions of it i landed to jessrocked and that 1 wasnt the best lol but meh
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Post by: Aeneon on June 17, 2007, 05:14:32 AM
Downloading HQ!
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Post by: Aeneon on June 17, 2007, 05:26:19 AM
Wow, Awesome vid ATS, Nice to see Samurai in a vid again


P.s, kaneda, What font did you use at the thanks to bit in the credits.

I Dont think Daffs gonna be too happy xD.


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Post by: Mickey! on June 17, 2007, 05:45:35 AM
Watched HQ , i just did a sex wee in my pant
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Post by: Crazy on June 17, 2007, 06:20:02 AM
Woah, dling!
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Post by: ApeX on June 17, 2007, 06:28:53 AM
WOHOO DAFFY GOT BEATEN BY PEACHERS!
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Crazy on June 17, 2007, 07:08:33 AM
Another great video, ATS. The intro and outro were the best. The stunts were cool too, not the best from you, but still good. Perfect editing. About the music, don't really like Prodigy, so the main song sucked in my opinion. Yeah, great to see Samurai back again.

I lol'd at the outro, awesome!
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Post by: KING on June 17, 2007, 07:22:28 AM
basically i think everyone feels it wasnt really and eleven minute vid with 10 minutes of stunts they feel it was more of a theme with less stunjts but i liked it  like view to a stunt
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Post by: Omni on June 17, 2007, 07:48:20 AM
Intro: Awesome. Probably the best intro I've witnessed. Great job Neo.

Stunts:
Aries: FBI bump: Very nice stunt. I'm kinda bored of those kinda stunts tho.
Maxmax: PB: A tricky angle to bump to the roof. Pretty cool.
Aries: Backflip: Nice use of the sign for the flip. I liked it.
Daf-fy: BSM: Huge BSM and a great use of the stairs as a "ramp".
Nitzkit: Ramp 2 bonk: Looks tricky to get the bonk right. Not hugely impressive tho.
Kaneda: Pole bump: Great idea, smoothly through the gap. Great stunt.
Samurai: Good bump, but Theftman did it and Fugitive(?) did it without the tank.
Docta Luv: Tank bump 2 krail 2 grind. Good use of the reality mod. Not sure how difficult it is tho.
Neo: Packerbump: I thought about this and thought the runup too short for such a high tricky PB. Uou proved me wrong, awesome stunt.
Dannye: Car wallride: Awesome wallride, shame you landed upside down.
Aries: PB: Awesome PB. Great distance and such a smooth krail through the air.
Dannye: Pole bump 2 grind: Nice technical stunt. Glad you grinded it all.
Docta Luv: Boat bump 2 BB grind: I think Dannye may have done this or something similiar but its still great.
Dannye: Grenade boost: Very creative and nice spin. Roof or the containers would've been a nicer landing tho.
Aries: PSM krail 2 grind: Very impressive spin 2 grind. Should've tried for the whole fence tho.
Daf-fy: Raised packer 2 ramp 2 krail 2 grind: Awesome idea and brilliantly executed. A top combo stunt.
Nightkid: PB: A good PB but terribly old.
Aries: BSM: Great spin and nice landing.
Kaneda: Bump: Great way of landing the precision. Awesome.
Neo: PB: Big PB. I liked it.
Madmax: Grind: Nice spin 2 grind but the lock for the grind wasn't their so it looked very sketchy.
Samurai: BSM: Lovely idea. those BB's are great to land.
Neo: PB: Yet another big PB. Again its great.
Nitzkit: Natural ramp: Kan's stunt without the packer. It's good but doesn't have the same effect as when I first saw Kan land there.
Maxmax: Plane stunt: Good stunt but plane stunts bore me in VC.
Dannye: Taxi boost: Sick stunt. Always wanted to land there. Great use of those buildings.
Kaneda: Wallride 2 grind: Oh so creative and a fucking awesome stunt.
Nagual: I like the idea but the wheelie ends before the use of the packer so it isn't too tricky :S
Dannye: Taxi boost 2 bail: Great precision but a credit stunt if you ask me.
Kaneda: Natural ramp 2 bonk: Sickness! A completely natural precision stunt that reeked of quality
Docta Luv: PB: Huge PB. Nice one mate.
Dannye: Wallride 2 roof: Kinda cool wallride 2 roof. I don't like it much tho.
Daf-fy: Bump 2 krail 2 grind: The gap is hard enough let alone krail 2 grind also. Very good stunt.
Nagual: Ramp 2 krail 2 stoppie: These combos are tricky and this one was pulled off smoothly. Great stunt.
Aries: PlaneSM(?): Cool new method, but I hope we can get bigger air of it than that
Neo: PB: Great PB.
Samurai: Bump 2 krail 2 grind: Great stunt, althought Daf-fys cork version kinda takes the sickness away but I still loved it.
Kid A: Bump: Very tricky bump into the stadium. North bug would've caused problems too.
Madmax: Stoppie 2 grab 2 grab x2: Loved both of them. Maybe shouldn't have been finishers too the vid tho.

Editing: The main didn't live up to the name "trial by fire" but the editing was superb. Brilliant effects which synched very well. I'm not sure about the black and white but it didn't bother me much. Great job Kan.

Overall: Another awesome vid to add to the collection. Keep it up guys.

Also, I think people may have been a bit disappointed in this vid is because it wasn't all about "Let's RAD, bump or PB too the biggest roof we could find". But bollocks to that, its only in an ATS vid where you'd see such creativity as in this vid. I feel almost as if stunting is just about as high a roof you can reach nowadays, which I hope it isn't.







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Post by: Neo Anderson on June 17, 2007, 08:13:59 AM
First I wanna thank everyone for watchin the vid, 217 megs   hey it's been awhile and we wanted to show off alittle with things we added in.

The intro, thanks guys for liking it. I thought it was pretty cool.

Just a note about the outro. It in no way reflects any bad feelings toward Daffy. The whole idea about him messin up our bikes at the end and us gettin him back was all for the humour of it. Daffy is much respected by ATS.

The B&W video. It was originally an idea Kan and I had to do an intro with. After I converted LC it just seemed a waste of work not to use it for something more. So Nitz, Kan and I did a rush job on VC and it was decided that the whole vid would follow this theme. It's just something different we wanted to try out.

@Feron, thanks man for speaking your mind about the vid. You did it in a way that I can respect and your right on some points. We probably didn't spend the kinda time on stunts as we have in the past. To be honest, after almost 4 years of this it's amazing any of us still have an interest to even try.  

Anyways thanks again to Daffy for havin a sense of humour, to Kan for his fantastic job on puttin this all together and to the guys in the crew for all their efforts to make this a pretty cool little vid.
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Post by: Auzas on June 17, 2007, 08:19:35 AM
First movie that kept my mouth wide, consider that 20/10
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Post by: NuclearDeath on June 17, 2007, 08:32:47 AM
Dling  .
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Post by: Docta Luv on June 17, 2007, 09:49:43 AM
Thanks for the comments so far guys, we really appreciate them.

@Omni:  I didn't use the Reality Mod for the hospital grind
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Post by: Brainkiller on June 17, 2007, 09:50:44 AM
 Downloading + Trying not to read people's posts.
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Post by: Madmax on June 17, 2007, 09:52:50 AM
Seems people have a love it or hate it attitude. Which is all good. I had fun making this video, the others had fun and thats all that matters to me.


Quote from: Omni
Madmax: Grind: Nice spin 2 grind but the lock for the grind wasn't their so it looked very sketchy.

about that grind. I've locked a few times on it but when I would hit the wall I would fall off. That was the only way i could see it possible to do that spiin grind without falling off my pizzaboy.
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Post by: Tackleberry on June 17, 2007, 10:13:31 AM
Oh, I thought of a question. Where was...
Quote from: Aries
I have landed the best faggio stoppie in the world and you will see it in my next video  Yours is nice, but not very creative.
...that one?
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Post by: VaNilla on June 17, 2007, 10:16:00 AM
Cool video, intro was nice, and so was the outro but I felt like they dragged on. I didn't like the music much as it didn't give a great feel, or the colours, for the song redish colours would be great, some oldies, one I pwned in a n00b solo (3.26, Pole bump, Done to highest part by me ) also lost a boat BB grind I did for a 1 hour vid that was cancelled ages ago, to Docta Luv, some really ownage stuff in here too, the edit was very good Kan but I didn't like some cam angles and things. Cool vid but I liked the previous more .
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Post by: Torque on June 17, 2007, 10:21:19 AM
Review-

Intro to ze review: I'm sure the second you scroll down the forums and see a new topic in the ATS section you are practically ready to piss your pants.  (As you are for other crew vids  ) So you anxiously wait and wait for your download to be done until Firefox gives you a little pop-up tell you that the latest ATS vid is done DLing. In a constant rush you hurry to open up the file, to watch it in VLC, Winamp or WMP; you can't choose since your all giddy giddy with joy.  


Stunts:(I picked out my favorites and the ones I just seemed to like a lot)
3:40 (Docta Luv): Great stunt man, from the starting I noticed several old stunts and thought that this stunt was going to be a golden oldie also, but that grind proved me wrong. Awesome stunt dude it was really clean looking.
3:53 (Dannye): When I saw this my mouth made an expression that was sort of like "  " the stunt was absolutely great man, it must've been really hard since the rail didn't have a arc to it who cares if you didn't land it on your wheels, the stunt is really one of the best ones out there.
4:18 (Dannye): I could never do those kinds of bumps off poles, maybe because I never tried them.  Another instant classic from you Dannye.
4:30 (Dannye): This one was the biggest standout for me in the entire video. It shows that someone is pushing the limits of stunting to see how far it can go. For me this stunt shows the evolution of stunting overall, from the great push off airgrabs from 04 to this fantastic stunt; jumping onto a bike couldn't have looked any better. Although this type of stunt is very limited to the area it is performed on I'm hoping to see more of it.
4:55 (Daffy): Really nice and unexpected stunt d00d. I liked the cool landing at the end.
5:12 (Kaneda): Fantatstic stunt man, the bump, the spin, the landing - it couldn't have been any better (well, unless you did a backflip   )
5:29 (Samurai): I've was looking for a way to land there and I've had several ideas, nice job on landing on that billboard thing bro.
5:36 (Neo): Great stunt man, I loved it but there was something that made it hard for me to appreciate the stunt.
6:00 (Dannye): So many people have landed on top of the construction site in LC, way to mix up it man. Really nice spin and landing.
6:12 (Kaneda): When you showed me your failed attempt at the stunt I was in awe, when I got to see this; I was amazed. Spectacular stunt.
6:17 (Nagual): Sick stunt, reminded me of GTAF.
6:30 (Dannye): After seeing all your stunts I needed to call a doctor to reattach my jaw, for some reason I thought you were going to do a airgrab back into the taxi.
6:49 (Dannye): First time I've seen Dannye on a black PCJ, my heart is filled with joy  Probably the best PCJ wallride combo ever.
7:18 (Samurai): Awesome spin man, I liked your version of it so much more. I have a thing for PCJ grinds where the tail of the PCJ is in a area it shouldn't be (Like water, fire, the back edge of a roof and in other places  )
7:24 (Kid A): Great job man, I've been trying to land on that and grind the rail connecting to the lower portion of the roof using that bump. Cool little bonk at the end.
7:30 (Madmax): Going for another one of those stoppie airgrabs again man...not this time.  Loved seeing a double variation of that stunt, it was great the first time around but even better the second.

Intro / Outro:  My favorite part were the big red letters at the dam, the music and everything just made it fit for me. I didn't see that skull logo anywhere in the vid.   I liked it too when you guys beat teh shit out of Daffy too. The only part I didn't like was the goat thing.

Editing: You've probably heard this before but it's really good.  I liked the use of the black and white mod in the first 20 seconds of the main part, didn't expect the entire vid to use it. I'm guessing you edited the timecyc to make VC and LC grayscale. The credits were top notch, and I don't say that about all the credits.

What to expect if you haven't seen it: This is definitely a twist from what others might call "the old ATS." There isn't anything thats old, it's just how you were accustomed to it at a different time frame. This video offers change, and change is something that is inevitable. You might not like it but it's going to happen. For me ATS has always been about the stunting but this video made it look like that you guys had started to care about the style of your videos. Feron offered some valid points in his little post de jourve (yes I just made that word up  ) but ultimately it's up to the crew or the stunter to decide on what the video he / she / it creates. You guys make videos because of the way you want to, not because your making it better for others to watch. These guys aren't making this video just to impress you guys or whatever, and their probably not even making these videos to impress me either (Yea I know  ) But whatever you guys do, before you start jumping to conclusions. Ask yourself this, do you make videos to impress yourself, others or just for fun.


Conclusion: *stretches* Ugh, I'm like the bible but a bajillion times more inspirational and crap. (http://www.gtastunting.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Oh yea I just remembered;

Quote from: Ferσή
Maybe you guys need to realize that some stunts do require RADS method.

9/10ths of the stunts people do with RADs can be done without it. It depends on their dedication.
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Post by: Aries on June 17, 2007, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: Tackleberry
Oh, I thought of a question. Where was...
Quote from: Aries
I have landed the best faggio stoppie in the world and you will see it in my next video  Yours is nice, but not very creative.
...that one?

It was way too long to include in the video Tack. I might just consider frapsing it and posting a topic, since theres no room for it anywhere
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Post by: Nitzkit on June 17, 2007, 10:24:00 AM
Quote from: Xtramus
Quote from: ImPaKt
Wasn't Nitz' LC rock bank bump 2 diner sign stunt from an old ATS vid done by Kaneda?
Bingo.

Since you dont know the back story to this Ill just mention it, I was trying something else along that road, and everytime what I was trying didnt come out right I would try kan's stunt for fun. I managed to land it, but I wasn't trying that stunt for this vid....hell I wasnt trying ANY stunts for this vid... at risk of not being in this vid I sent that stunt in and the bonk I did, which is also a result of another stunt I was trying  ...
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Post by: Brainkiller on June 17, 2007, 10:24:14 AM
Weird vid, I liked it.
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Post by: Madmax on June 17, 2007, 10:31:49 AM
Quote from: Ferσή
Maybe you guys need to realize that some stunts do require RADS method.


Ok. I feel that RADs is a Meh method. The reason for this is that its to a point where theres no techical or anything anymore. Doing a bump at 30000mph means that you have absolutly no control on spins and landing and most it it is left to luck at that point. Without using Rads I feel like I have more control over my bike in the air and when I land. i would use it if i had a small runup but I don't think it is nessesary when you have a long runup. A 600 distance and 400 feet high jump doesn't impress me. its just more of the same. I am more into the techical side of stunting. Those little stunts that are eye candy and are a bitch to work because of perfect timing in all areas. This is my personal opinion on the matter though. It does not reflect what ATS thinks.
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Post by: Aries on June 17, 2007, 10:51:41 AM
I agree with Max, though I like watching high bumps and packerbumps, nothing does it for me like a sexy grind combo or a Kaneda specially creative stunt.
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Post by: Docta Luv on June 17, 2007, 10:58:36 AM
Amen to both Max and Aries...there's nothing at all wrong with the huge ass stunts, but eventually they do all start to look the same

This was an amazing project to work on guys.  I'd always wanted to be in an ATS vid...but due to life I had to bow out of Awakening.  Now I got the chance to, and I gotta say that it was a blast and an honor.

And once again, thanks for the comments thus far.
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Post by: Nitzkit on June 17, 2007, 11:05:53 AM
3rd time DLing this vid  .... filefront gave me a corrupt wmv, then megaupload timed out on me, so im trying FF again :'(
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Post by: Ev0x on June 17, 2007, 11:22:41 AM
Nice video! intro was nice!
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Post by: VenomX on June 17, 2007, 11:30:50 AM
Quote from: Madmax
I am more into the techical side of stunting. Those little stunts that are eye candy and are a bitch to work because of perfect timing in all areas.
Wow, thats the truest thing I have ever read on these forums  .  Short runups for life .
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Post by: Vercitti Gang Boy on June 17, 2007, 11:54:37 AM
Holy shit that movie was EPIC.
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Post by: Question on June 17, 2007, 12:11:51 PM


The intro was weird, and the beginning of the main video it reminded me of Twisted Metal
For the stunts...A lot of them were recently done by other people in recent videos, even the some of the music were old and used  which was unexpected. I also lost a stunt that was done better than the original, without a packer

It was about what I was expecting, great video all around.

9/10 Good job everyone
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Post by: Wozzie on June 17, 2007, 12:16:32 PM
Awesome vid, I like the intro and stunts and editing   10/10
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Post by: ofthemountain on June 17, 2007, 12:23:29 PM
The more I watch this the more I like it. It's so dam stylish!
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Post by: Shifty on June 17, 2007, 12:58:08 PM
Wow!! (not world of warcraft -.-). Amazing work guys! I shall remember this vid for a long time!!  
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Post by: blah on June 17, 2007, 01:19:41 PM
I watched the whole thing.  It was pretty long, but I didn't get bored.

Word up.
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Post by: Kingjad on June 17, 2007, 01:20:56 PM
Trial by Fire - Google Video streaming (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1730277152162709003)

I used the 200-odd MB version for this and Google crapped up quality lol.
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Post by: Master_Yayo on June 17, 2007, 01:42:42 PM
10/10 such a fantastic job. Cinematics, editing, stunts, that was unbelievable!! hats off to ATS.
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Post by: NicoGamer on June 17, 2007, 02:15:40 PM
^What he said.

AND:

OMGOMGOMG ATS Vid.

I watched it..

Now that i call pure awesomeness.

I'm very much impressed of that.

Just great.

GJ everyone.
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Post by: Makrame on June 17, 2007, 02:17:05 PM
Downloading... Why am I already late when awesome videos are released
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Post by: NuclearDeath on June 17, 2007, 02:22:03 PM
I dunno where start my coment...I've been a bit desapionted to see some old in a video like it, I was hoping alot to see a new stunt landed by NightKid and he landed an old, same as samurai cork to grind (probably done before than daffy i guess). But i've benn surprised by few member who landed few very nice stunt as Docta Luv who did a great job in it, and Kaneda who remember me he's the best stunter ever. Madmax and  Danny added their point of creativity. Nagual hasn't got alot of stunt but he wheelie combo was great  .

At the editing point, kaneda did an awesome job, great effect on a music hard to edit. The style was totaly diferent than "The Awakening". The intro was the best ever (sad to don't see daffy in) and the "main part finish" was comic.

A question : ZeroX landed few stunts for it before leave ?

Good bye to all stunters who leave after this video (hopefully not kaneda). And waiting a new video...the next year.
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Post by: Ralleee on June 17, 2007, 02:34:51 PM
Fuck all these 9 pages.  Downloading!
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Post by: Drool on June 17, 2007, 02:43:59 PM
Dling!
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Post by: Ralleee on June 17, 2007, 03:09:12 PM
I have to say that ATS is back on track again. When I first watched The Awakening I felt that this is not ATS. You guys turned The Awakening upsidedown with this awesome video. Creative stuff from everybody, standouts was Docta Luv, Dannye and kaneda, you guys kicked ass, as the other stunters but you did some really nice shoutouts. I loved the editing, everything was just right, felt good watching it. The music is awesome too, makes me think of VC Smackdown.  Scripting was great too, good job Neo.

Well, I have to say good job to every member of ATS for putting effort and hard work to this video. Props guys.

EDIT: Oh, and I forgot to mention Madmax for the standouts, your two last double airgrabs were fucking awesome, incredible job!
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Post by: Makrame on June 17, 2007, 03:27:27 PM
Damn... That was so fucking amazing... Seeing how stunters have pulled so many awesome stunts in different crew videos, I don't think I thought that could be better again... This video just proved me wrong.

I still can't believe how you've been able to perform the half of this vid. Creative and pwnage stuff from every stunter invovled, that deserves a 10/10

Great work.
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Post by: Daffy on June 17, 2007, 03:29:07 PM
I have rather mixed feelings about this video but first off i would like to thank ATS for letting me be a guest in their movie and kicking my ass.

I like to take up what i didn't like first so you'll be left with what's good in your memory.
First off the black and white idea was pretty cool but you could had and should had done it the other way around.
Vice City gets very boring to look at when it's like that and i takes so much of the feeling away from the video, as editors we're supposed to correct the colors, not remove them.
So instead make the vehicle and the performer black and white would've been better or at least done something... perhaps made it a little Sin City like instead of plain black and white.
Samurai's bump supported by the tank in Shoreside LC was done by THEFTman in Revocation and without the tank by Explosion.
Nitzkit's uhm... can i say "wallramp"2sign was done by kaneda only he didn't use a packer... in one way a new stunt but in another way we had seen it all before.
Samurai's palm2cork2rail was done and completed by me in the SL, if you're gonna use an old stunt it should at least be performed better than the original stunt.
Also i do like Prodigy but i do not like the song you used in the main song, there's no diversity in it.
I'm not much of a fan of long intros neither but that's on me who's weird that way.

As for the good parts i saw lots of creative stunts and i was really surprised by Docta Luv, for me he had always been an average stunter who i felt wasn't quite up there with you guys but in this video he was one of the better stunters in my eyes, way to go dude.
Samurai's BSM2BB was amazing too, i had been looking to find a way to land on that thing for ages and then you came along and did it like that, brilliant stunt.
Kaneda's ramp2bump2precision landing at the construction site was something i had been trying but i heard you had done it and i couldn't really steal since you let me be a guest... wonder who i would had looked like in the outro then

All in all a good video but some of you need to focus more on the stunting that then scripting, 7/10 from me.
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Samurai on June 17, 2007, 03:58:18 PM
Ah, samurai is here! First of all, thx for the feedback guys, as you know we always welcome that good or bad...usually hehe. No need to hash alot of things alreadys said. I haven't been around as much as i'd like and i haven't gotten to horse around with the ATS guys as much either  due to other priorities. The vid was super enjoyable to me and i'm glad to be apart of it ( I wish i could've have participated more ) . Since i haven't been in the loop of the latest here in the stunting world, guess i'm behind in spots and such. regardless i still had fun doing the stunts. If i had known that those 2 stunts i had were already done, i wouldn't have sent them in. Props to daffy for corking it and landing the sucker! That rail pissed me off a few times, especially the perfect 540's to it....And good job to explosion to theftman who did the stunt before me. I'm just glad the bb stunt hasn't been done before me  

It's great to see that this place is still kicking. I'll be checkin in from time to time, but if i do some stunts for a vid, if i do, i'll run them by some folk who is in the know hehe!

Props to the crew, and some killer stuff by Daffy!
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Post by: Nitzkit on June 17, 2007, 04:50:46 PM
Quote from: Daffy
Nitzkit's uhm... can i say "wallramp"2sign was done by kaneda only he didn't use a packer... in one way a new stunt but in another way we had seen it all before.

I said this before already, but THIS (http://media.putfile.com/bumpage-fbi) is what I was trying. Next time I don't have time to be in a ATS video remind me to not even try and send anything in.

Btw kan... where is my bike?
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Post by: ImPaKt on June 17, 2007, 05:00:47 PM
Woah Nitz, thats a great stunt. Shame u bailed it, you almost had it there.
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Post by: brandon6199 on June 17, 2007, 05:09:47 PM
Can I land it Nitz?

Btw get on msn
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Post by: Torque on June 17, 2007, 05:22:23 PM
Quote from: Nitzkit
Btw kan... where is my bike?
Even better question is, where is your afro.  
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: NuclearDeath on June 17, 2007, 05:32:47 PM
Sorry, i've forget to say : this video is the perfect middle enter performance and creativity, in my opininon  .
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Post by: GiftedMisfit on June 17, 2007, 08:00:12 PM
I downloaded this vid last night, about the time it was posted. I didn't comment because it just blew me away, left me speechless. This movie is awesome, the intro and outro are just 'wow'  the stunts; old or new were still kickass. Kaneda was a big standout for me in this one. I dont know what else to say, other then this video is 11 minutes and 24 seconds of greatness  

Good Job
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Post by: Drool on June 17, 2007, 11:08:13 PM
OH MY GOD! Scripting (by Nitzkit I guess) was... was... f*cking gr8! That intro, outro.... it was really gr8 - it pwnt me.

After being pwnt by intro - time for stunts. These were fantastic, gr8 and pwnt me also.  Editing awesome, but... I didn't like one thing about the film - maybe It's my totally individual opinion, bu I hate black&white cities. But... as I said that's probably my individual opinion.

Film is gr8, pwning and... excellent. Just keep it up - I wonder what would happen in future.
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Post by: Ferσή on June 17, 2007, 11:18:01 PM
Quote from: Torque
Quote from: Ferσή
Maybe you guys need to realize that some stunts do require RADS method.

9/10ths of the stunts people do with RADs can be done without it. It depends on their dedication.
"Maybe you guys need to realize that some stunts do require RADS method."

God damn are you guys really that biased that you need to fucking splurge out your opinions every opertunity you get? Its not really that neccesary. Sure I talk about some controversal stuff but you need to realize that I do use "saftey words" like SOME and stuff like that. I did not say that every stunt that uses RADS requires It.
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Post by: Paxton on June 18, 2007, 12:10:58 AM
You guys made an awesome video. I watched it several times, i actually like it.

Intro & Outro were made with an excellent competence of scripting, even if some scenes were quite excessive for a stunt video, lol, poor daffy. The closest sight of all stuntas at the end could have cut as well in my opinion. Anyway was a good job.

Stunts (as usual) are really fantastic, expecially creative and (some) new. Asd i'm not going to make a review, but my favourites are dannye's wc with infernus at 3.51, jump 2 wc 2 grind by kaneda at 6.07, and the double ag with pizzaboy by madmax at 7.31 as well.

9/10, really good job!
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Post by: Nagual on June 18, 2007, 01:20:05 AM
Thanks lads for the comments..
I was totally blown away by the vid, mainly because I do like the music.
The vid was perfectly synched to it.

Props for all the hard work that was put in the mods for this vid.
I think it's a nice theme and it gave an eerie feeling to it.
I know there was alot time put in to create that stuff.
And the result was original to say the least.
I know I'm a bit biased seen the vid coming together like that, but I was totally blown away.

The stuff sent in was original and showed some flexibility of the members.
The lack of stunts I could contribute was greatly compensated by the others.
I am just glad that I finally nailed the bridgewheelie2grind (which is a bitch tbh, nomatter how it looks) and I got to be in this.

All in all a great stuntvid with awesome cinematics, accompanied (finally) by some decent music.
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Post by: Flat Face on June 18, 2007, 01:23:38 AM
if any1 wants thi for psp iv renderd it i just havent uploaded yet...youtubes being gay saying its too long but...fuck youtube then lol il try ff l8r i guess
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Post by: Boo on June 18, 2007, 01:29:24 AM
nice style, great intros and outtros, seems like a short vid but it was 11 minutes so wtf.
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Post by: jessrocked on June 18, 2007, 01:43:29 AM
HOLY SHIT..

a lot of new stunts there, i really liked dannye's infernus wallride and kaneda's wallride to grind.. such a great find

and i couldnt mention everything... there was 90% great stunts...

now, cinematics.. a 10/10 from me, you really made an ATS hollywood-like thingy in the intro.. a big LOL..
i thought it was 20th fox century intro.. lol

damn, you got the intro music i was gonna use...
and the camera styles/angles were also same as my ideas as well..but i couldnt do it since i dont know how to script..

and lol at nagual in the end, he was talking to no one.. lol

and daffy got a buttseckhs from all his crew mates... lol

and the last portion, i thought it was final fantasy 7 intro.. lol



90/100





EDIT: AND SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT MOD WAS THAT, GIANT PLAYERS or SMALLER BUILDINGS??? or whatever was it..
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Post by: Species on June 18, 2007, 01:50:33 AM
WOW    

Dling
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Post by: Aries on June 18, 2007, 01:51:56 AM
Thanks for all the great comments guys  Really appreciated.

Although I really despise people talking about 'old stunts' and how having old stunts is dissapointed, bitch if we want to put an old stunt in our video we will, stop complaining  
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Post by: Flat Face on June 18, 2007, 01:58:57 AM
hey how did kanada remove the plant for the wally grind? moo mapper im guessing but i wana try it lol
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Post by: Brandon on June 18, 2007, 02:27:25 AM
spectacular. the black and white background was terrible. the music was fantastic. the editing was great in the syncing but horrible in the effects. always hated that bad quality video tape effect or whatever





stunts were orgasmic
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Post by: Species on June 18, 2007, 02:56:19 AM
   

10/10

this awesome  
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Post by: PlethZorb on June 18, 2007, 03:06:34 AM
Hey everone, use RADs. Its a cool way to get more speed!

HAIL TO THE OLD ATS with new members...
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Post by: Crazy on June 18, 2007, 03:12:35 AM
Nitz looks so badass on that chopper
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Post by: Aries on June 18, 2007, 03:54:54 AM
Quote from: PlethZorb
Hey everone, use RADs. Its a cool way to get more speed!

HAIL TO THE OLD ATS with new members...

Yup, and I'll use it when I want to get more speed.
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Post by: Flat Face on June 18, 2007, 04:12:00 AM
rads actually doesnt give you more speed its just a speed boost to like 70% speedi tested it on some ramps
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Post by: ImPaKt on June 18, 2007, 04:45:37 AM
^ Wrong
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Post by: Aries on June 18, 2007, 04:47:44 AM
Quit the RAD's argument here now boys, this topic is about the video.
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Post by: Flat Face on June 18, 2007, 04:56:14 AM
well this vid is simply awsome an um...*cough!*rads doesnt work!*cough!* i reckon a best ats vid yet

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Post by: kaneda on June 18, 2007, 05:01:30 AM
Just making some responses:

Quote from: NoAPOlogies
The stunts were outstanding as per the usual in an ATS vid, however for an 11 and a half minute vid I would've like to see more stunts (or shorten the vid).

The reason the vid's 11:23 is mainly my fault. There was discussion between Neo and I as to whether there's too much packed in there, but it'll most likely be my last editing job in a crew vid, and I just wanted to try out a swag of ideas that had been put on the backburner, so to speak (giants, gofreeze, etc). In the end it became a case of gladly biting off more than we could chew...and just chewing like mad.

Quote from: Aries
It's a new stunt because he did it without the packer..... (Although I still think thats a tad weak to be honest)

I think that's a bit rough considering your reaction to a similar comment about one of your own submissions. Not trying to start an inter-crewmate war, of course...but our 'no expectations' philoshophy should stand firm . Also, I think his version is better than mine...to navigate that strip after the dropoff is no easy feet...believe me.

Quote from: AtomiK
P.s, kaneda, What font did you use at the thanks to bit in the credits.

To be honest I can't think of the name...German Garamond, or something along those lines.

Quote from: Omni
Also, I think people may have been a bit disappointed in this vid is because it wasn't all about "Let's RAD, bump or PB too the biggest roof we could find". But bollocks to that, its only in an ATS vid where you'd see such creativity as in this vid. I feel almost as if stunting is just about as high a roof you can reach nowadays, which I hope it isn't.

Amen.

Quote from: Daffy
Vice City gets very boring to look at when it's like that and i takes so much of the feeling away from the video, as editors we're supposed to correct the colors, not remove them.

All in all a good video but some of you need to focus more on the stunting that then scripting, 7/10 from me.

I disagree with the first point. Editing shouldn't have rules applied at all. Thinking outside of what's expected should be something that's encouraged. It's much more interesting to dodge people's expectations, rather than simply live up to them.

On the second point...as I mentioned to Feron earlier - the scripting was done by one person, and was wrapped up in under a day. The stunting was done over a much longer period. I think (again) to apply that kind of blanket opinion is a bit short-sighted. Not knocking your honesty, just offering a rebuttal .

Quote from: Nitzkit
Btw kan... where is my bike?

Gah...? I didn't steal it  

Quote from: jessrocked
and the last portion, i thought it was final fantasy 7 intro.. lol

EDIT: AND SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT MOD WAS THAT, GIANT PLAYERS or SMALLER BUILDINGS??? or whatever was it..

First...I thought it was FFVII too...hehe. Sounds so much like the lead-in to Aries' first scene.
Second...that's actually normal size everything, it's just some greenscreening and masking gags.

Quote from: flatface
hey how did kanada remove the plant for the wally grind? moo mapper im guessing but i wana try it lol

The plant's breakable if you hit it hard enough. To stop it coming back I parked a bike near the small wall on the left. I don't know if you can catch it in the recording though, but it's there. Mooing it out would have been less annoying though - nothing worse than hurtling down the hill toward that planter and NOT having it pop was a nuisance.


To everyone else...thanks for all the feedback. I know some didn't like the song (MOST didn't like the song), but I guess that's the way it goes. Not gonna make any apologies for the use of the black & white mods...because I think it looks spiffy and put more emphasis on the bike and rider. Mention of old stunts and old music...meh. I'm so over that now.

It was a fun, unique and often frustrating vid to be a part of, so I'm happy that I had the opportunity. Props to all the guys who, despite escalating commitments in real life, still managed to submit some great stuff.

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Post by: Aries on June 18, 2007, 05:13:42 AM
You've hurt my feelings now Kaneda!  Nah I get ya, and you know what I meant. Nitzkit's stunt was still good and it made a nice addition to the video, didn't mean to shit on it Nitz
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Post by: Heartagram Design on June 18, 2007, 05:24:42 AM
Cool stunts and editing, i realy liked the outro^^

And firestarter was one of my favorite songs, as i was younger
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Post by: jessrocked on June 18, 2007, 05:41:30 AM
i want that black and white mod..
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Post by: PlethZorb on June 18, 2007, 05:48:10 AM
I think maybe a two part vid or even two seperate vids, would make it easier for the audience to absorb each stunt. lol these are turning out like css vids
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Post by: jessrocked on June 18, 2007, 05:51:10 AM
^ yeah, somewhat agree...

honestly, i couldnt concentrate much on the stunts, i am mostly overwhelmed by the cinematics and effects...
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Post by: Dannye on June 18, 2007, 06:07:34 AM
Hey hey, I finally got to treat myself to this in all its 200mb glory. Very nice, very nice indeed.

(As I said earlier) I am really impressed with how this vid turned out. I am really liking the effect/mood created by the Black 'n White mod (amazing job on that Neo and Nitz), and while I wasn't overly fond of the song to begin with, it is definitely starting to grow on me (thanks to the fantastic editing job by Kan). All the intro and outro stuff was great, and of course I loved the stunts too. Cheers guys.

And thanks to everyone who provided their feedback.
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Post by: FIGHTER on June 18, 2007, 06:22:58 AM
btw where is ZeroX? i like him! (stunts)
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Post by: Aries on June 18, 2007, 06:53:38 AM
He quit stunting, and ATS.

Though if he would have submitted stuff I would've liked it to be in, he's still a good stunter.
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Post by: Sweety on June 18, 2007, 07:33:36 AM
Nice video ! Thats rocks ! 10/10 Loved the last 23 secs xD
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Post by: Kert on June 18, 2007, 08:29:36 AM
Once again, i have to say well done to you ATS people, very enjoyable video, lots of cool ideas + killer editing that fit with the song perfectly, what more could you want?

 
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Post by: Docta Luv on June 18, 2007, 08:55:58 AM
Quote from: Ferσή
Quote from: Torque
Quote from: Ferσή
Maybe you guys need to realize that some stunts do require RADS method.

9/10ths of the stunts people do with RADs can be done without it. It depends on their dedication.
"Maybe you guys need to realize that some stunts do require RADS method."

God damn are you guys really that biased that you need to fucking splurge out your opinions every opertunity you get? Its not really that neccesary. Sure I talk about some controversal stuff but you need to realize that I do use "saftey words" like SOME and stuff like that. I did not say that every stunt that uses RADS requires It.

*Sighs*  Well...if no one else is gonna comment on that then I guess I will.

Was Torque being aggressive with his post, AT ALL?  If you think he was, I don't know where you're coming from.  And surprisingly enough, people's posts in video release threads tend to have *gasp* OPINIONS in them.  It's no crime to use RADs method...I use it, and I know of a lot of other people who do to, obviously.  But it's also no crime to dislike RADs method and choose not to use it.  There's no need to get pissy about people saying that they don't see the need to use RADs in stunts...it's their CHOICE, much like it's your CHOICE to use RADs method.  So maybe just respect people's choices, eh?

Thanks for the continued comments guys
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Post by: Madmax on June 18, 2007, 09:05:16 AM
Pfftt you guys just like the interspecies erotica!


Quote from: Ferσή
Quote from: Torque
Quote from: Ferσή
Maybe you guys need to realize that some stunts do require RADS method.

9/10ths of the stunts people do with RADs can be done without it. It depends on their dedication.
"Maybe you guys need to realize that some stunts do require RADS method."

God damn are you guys really that biased that you need to fucking splurge out your opinions every opertunity you get? Its not really that neccesary. Sure I talk about some controversal stuff but you need to realize that I do use "saftey words" like SOME and stuff like that. I did not say that every stunt that uses RADS requires It.

Im going to spurge my opinion out.  be careful.

Honestly though, what was said was an explaination of why I do not use RADs a lot. Sure i'll use it from time to time but I do not think that hitting the biggest roof in the game and getting air with lasts 10 seconds is fun. I am more into tactical stuff and I think that a lot of ATS is as well. It's not a refusal to use RADs on my behalf. Far from there. I have used it when my runup is absolute shit because it procures good acceleration.

SOME stunts do require RADs, no doubt. Those stunts are the stunts I don't really look into doing.
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Post by: Ferσή on June 18, 2007, 10:02:28 AM
Quote from: Docta Luv
Was Torque being aggressive with his post, AT ALL?  If you think he was, I don't know where you're coming from.  And surprisingly enough, people's posts in video release threads tend to have *gasp* OPINIONS in them.  It's no crime to use RADs method...I use it, and I know of a lot of other people who do to, obviously.  But it's also no crime to dislike RADs method and choose not to use it.  There's no need to get pissy about people saying that they don't see the need to use RADs in stunts...it's their CHOICE, much like it's your CHOICE to use RADs method.  So maybe just respect people's choices, eh?
I was a bit aggressive yes, but Im sick of every time I post somthing people rip it apart bit by bit. Gets annoying after awhile when you have to repeat what you said the first time because people are so biased on their opinions they overlook what you say and splurge out some random shit. Lets stop talking about this.
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Post by: Docta Luv on June 18, 2007, 10:05:39 AM
I got no problem with that
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Post by: NuclearDeath on June 18, 2007, 10:44:40 AM
Please doods, try to stay on topic.
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Post by: Tim on June 18, 2007, 12:07:25 PM
2 days i don't visit the forums, then this happens  , what a surprise.
Im downloading high quality(and it just failed  ) but i just  watched streaming and man!! I'm gonna watch that again. It's brilliant how much quality has been put into this vid. All stunts were good, but some of them were just so original. Also an outstanding job on the editing and scripting.
This vid will provide me with inspiration for a long time. Thanks ATS!
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Post by: boxXx on June 18, 2007, 12:15:24 PM
Full review from me :
 
I Loved the intro man fuckin sweet and original idea  still a BIT to long


03.03 - Aries - New spot for an fbi bump nice height GJ 
03.09 - Madmax - Back to the roots Max good fag p2b 
03.14 - Aries - nice little creative stunt
03.17 - Daffy - Height Rotation Landing thats the shit !!
03.22 - Nitzkit - Perfect bonk i was trying it my self ! HARD ASSSS !!
03.27 - kaneda - good pool Tappie nice  
 03.31 - Samurai - was that rhino really needed ? other then that SWEET
03.38 - Docta Luv - spot is raped but your stunt made the spot new 
03.45 - Neo - sweet smooth p2b neo !!
03.52 - Dannye - Awesome idea fucking sweet !
04.08 - Aries - FUCKING AWESOME P2B !!! sickness man thats height and distance DANM
04.15 - Dannye - dannye ... pole tap to grind nice !!!
04.22 - Docta Luv - yup your the doctor to get loved sweet boat grind !  
  04.29 - Dannye - Thats an fuckin sweet idea DAMN !!  
04.36 - Aries - nice psm to grind you pulled it of great !!
04.46 - Daffy - You showed me this earlier this month i  that stunt
04.59 - NightKid - Good p2b its old but nice attempt man ! 
05.05 - Aries - good bsm i would never think of that !!
05.09 - kaneda - sweet "wallbump?" to precission   
05.13 - Neo - I was the first one to land that  still sweet
05.19 - Madmax - nice krial to grind man
05.27 - Samurai - Sweet bsm i know you don't stunt much, so sweet !
05.33 - Neo - Neo again a great p2b !!
05.40 - Nitzkit - Nitz nice wallbump to precission !!   
05.47 - Madmax - good skimmer stunt man !!
05.59 - Dannye - good taxi boost man GJ 
06.07 - kaneda - Thats a wub able stunt man !!
06.16 - Nagual - netjes naggie  (nice one !!)
06.28 - Dannye - Thats fuckin pwnage !! 
06.37 - kaneda - bonk to precission SWANG !!
 06.42 - Docta Luv - again a docta to luuvvv man fuckin sweet !!
06.47 - Dannye - Nice wallride man
06.51 - Daffy - Good bump to grind you showed me that before i love it 
06.58 - Nagual - ramp to stoppie looks good  
07.04 - Aries - fuckin creative helicopter bump swang !!! now go for the top   
07.10 - Neo - nice p2b neo AGAIN  where are the .col files !! ? 
07.14 - Samurai - is it just me or ... gj on ... landing it ?   
07.27 - KidA - i was fuckin planned to use that man i have that landed in front of my damn face  still nice one man its a bitch 
07.31 - Madmax - 2 double grabs  
 
Outro : Nice outro man good job on scripting it i like it

Overall :

An very exciting video it didn't gave me the special feeling of ats back i dunno why ... maybe lost the old school editing a bit ?  
Other then that it was fucking sweet the damn creative shit i allways expect from ats nice

8.7/10
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Aries on June 18, 2007, 12:17:14 PM
Thanks man
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Post by: Nightkid on June 18, 2007, 12:18:00 PM
Thanks for the comments on the video, lads. We apreciate it more then you think. ;]

Now, alot of people were complaining about my one stunt that was "Old". Well, I did that stunt 3 years ago around the time that Misguided Angel and myself ressurected .:vERt:. That was a loooonnggg time ago. Now, that's not an excuse. I've been wanting to get that stunt "Out there" for the last few years, I spent at least 3 days trying to nail that stunt, and it is by far one of the funnest stunting sessions I've ever done, and it feels really great to have it in a video, it's like that final nail in the coffen. To me stunting is about fun and self expresion, some days it's fun to push the limits, other days it's fun to just fuck around and re-live the past and go back to the roots. And whatever I find fun[/i] at the time is what I'm going to put in a video. I'm not out to please anyone else but myself, call my a self-centered and selfish prick, but that's the truth.

Anyways...

Props to the ATS boys. Kan you did a superior editing job, everything was timed just perfect, top-notch work. The Scripting was also great, one of my favorite intro/outro's ever. Thanks for letting me be apart of of it, I really do apreciate it.
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Post by: boxXx on June 18, 2007, 12:27:19 PM
Quote from: Aries
Thanks man

hehe, np man i love it to watch this video again for a review
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Post by: GiftedMisfit on June 18, 2007, 12:34:54 PM
Quote from: Nightkid
. And whatever I find fun[/i] at the time is what I'm going to put in a video. I'm not out to please anyone else but myself, call my a self-centered and selfish prick, but that's the truth.
That's what 'stunting' should be about ^^

I also forgot to mention the editing was magnificent, that's how a video should be edited.
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Post by: boxXx on June 18, 2007, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: GiftedMisfit
That's what 'stunting' should be about ^^

I also forgot to mention the editing was magnificent, that's how a video should be edited.

ok and this is a comment where i could be mad on ...
dude your 2 months here and you think you can tell us what stunting should be about ?

Dude if your in a good crew and ever become a pro stunter you will see its not always fun and happyniss its hard as to be a good/pro stunter man :S
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Post by: GiftedMisfit on June 18, 2007, 12:49:44 PM
"Pro" stunter? wtf keep it on track Boxxx... So what if Ive been here a short period of time? I think I know what a good video is, and what isnt? If you read what Nightkid said, which obviously you didnt, he said whatever he finds fun is what he'll use in a video, that's what stunting should be.. FUN!
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Post by: infested on June 18, 2007, 12:50:36 PM
pr0nage
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Post by: Aries on June 18, 2007, 01:02:04 PM
Stopage  Please? Everyones opinions on stunting will always be different, theres no point in arguing.
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Post by: finallight on June 18, 2007, 01:05:16 PM
I liked it.
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Post by: Urban Legend on June 18, 2007, 01:29:03 PM
downloadin.
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: VenomX on June 18, 2007, 01:46:48 PM
boxXx, of course its about having fun.  The second I feel like I'm only stunting to impress other people is the second that I quit.  There's no point in doing something merely for the amusement of others if you have no wish to do it yourself, thats just silly.
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Post by: Urban Legend on June 18, 2007, 01:52:41 PM
Just wanted to say I'm gettin awesome speed at 60kbs a sec.  45% done!
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Post by: brandon6199 on June 18, 2007, 02:08:38 PM
Yeah I stunt for fun, sometimes I just spend hours doing easy/old stunts just for the hell of it cuz i like getting popped up in the air like over 100 ft and stuff. i also find it thrilling when im grinding

but sometimes i also stunt to impress other people and myself, if im not improving i dont find that really fun, so its a little bit of a competition to me, but im having fun doing it  its really feels good when people compliment my stunts, so thats pretty cool

just thought i should put in a little input here
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Post by: ofthemountain on June 18, 2007, 02:29:06 PM
Boxxx, just because he's new it doesn't mean he has no right to an opinion. Just because you're in some big name crew doesn't mean you can talk down to anyone who isn't.

In an attempt to stay on topic, that car wallride on the bridge was totally awe-inspiring, Dannye did some of the most unique stuff I've seen there.
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Post by: Neo Anderson on June 18, 2007, 02:42:18 PM
Thanks guys for all your opinions and or comments, especially for the comments on the intro and outro  
Now if you guys get your butts into the tutorials section in modding you can learn to script stuff also *hint* *hint*

Anyways it was a huge amount of work making this vid but I think it was worth it. The B&W thing wasn't perfect but it still looked cool. Oh and if anyone wants the LC B&W mod your welcome to it. It's 65 megs and contains all the files that need switching out. I'll up it.

Thanks again guys for enjoyin our video.

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Post by: Urban Legend on June 18, 2007, 02:42:27 PM
haha, awesome piece of work guys! So funny...I loved it. Neo man.  Who done the editing though? I seriously missed it... because the angle in which you recorded some stunts really hurt the look in my opinion. It was almost like more time was spent on the scripting.  Still lots of freakishly insane stuff that I just wish had a little better angle.

all in all I'm really happy for you guys about this video. awesome.
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Post by: Kert on June 18, 2007, 03:06:12 PM
I believe kan edited it, i loved the angles myself
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Post by: Laketown on June 18, 2007, 03:06:47 PM
kan kan
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Post by: Aries on June 18, 2007, 04:26:25 PM
Edit: Yeah at the risk of sounding like a newbie admin, welcome back Whiteshadow
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Post by: Torque on June 18, 2007, 04:44:10 PM
Quote from: Aries
Edit: Yeah at the risk of sounding like a newbie admin

You say that like it's a bad thing.  
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Post by: Flat Face on June 18, 2007, 04:58:05 PM
lol i wonder why they made a b and w mod when it can be added with vegas...?
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Post by: VenomX on June 18, 2007, 04:59:14 PM
It can't.  Their bikes and players were still coloured.
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Post by: Cody on June 18, 2007, 05:06:56 PM
I thought they did it with vegas.. the whole vid i was like.. HOW THE FUCK DID THEY DO THAT?!?!?! Then at the end is see the black and white mod.. <_<
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Post by: blah on June 18, 2007, 05:31:48 PM
After watching it again, I have a question.

When you guys scripted the intro with all the bikes riding next to each other perfectly in line, it didn't look good.  It only didn't look good because they were perfectly side by side.  Would it be impossible, or even just too much work, to slightly offset each of the riders?  I think that would have looked a lot better.

I probably should go read the tutorial and see for myself, but I'm a cunt like that.
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Post by: Ferσή on June 18, 2007, 05:47:50 PM
It looked as if they were one.
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Flat Face on June 18, 2007, 10:58:26 PM
well in a way they were1 i didnt like the modded bike thing or the flames to be honest...but still cool
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Post by: Aries on June 19, 2007, 12:15:39 AM
It wouldn't be impossible blah, and yeah it might look better. I guess the person who coded it just copied and pasted the cords and changed the start and end cords, couldn't be too hard to offset each one.
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: sony on June 19, 2007, 12:42:39 AM
Quote from: boxXx
Full review from me :
 
I Loved the intro man fuckin sweet and original idea  still a BIT to long


03.03 - Aries - New spot for an fbi bump nice height GJ  
03.09 - Madmax - Back to the roots Max good fag p2b  
03.14 - Aries - nice little creative stunt
03.17 - Daffy - Height Rotation Landing thats the shit !!
03.22 - Nitzkit - Perfect bonk i was trying it my self ! HARD ASSSS !!
03.27 - kaneda - good pool Tappie nice  
 03.31 - Samurai - was that rhino really needed ? other then that SWEET
03.38 - Docta Luv - spot is raped but your stunt made the spot new  
03.45 - Neo - sweet smooth p2b neo !!
03.52 - Dannye - Awesome idea fucking sweet !
04.08 - Aries - FUCKING AWESOME P2B !!! sickness man thats height and distance DANM
04.15 - Dannye - dannye ... pole tap to grind nice !!!
04.22 - Docta Luv - yup your the doctor to get loved sweet boat grind !  
  04.29 - Dannye - Thats an fuckin sweet idea DAMN !!  
04.36 - Aries - nice psm to grind you pulled it of great !!
04.46 - Daffy - You showed me this earlier this month i  that stunt
04.59 - NightKid - Good p2b its old but nice attempt man !  
05.05 - Aries - good bsm i would never think of that !!
05.09 - kaneda - sweet "wallbump?" to precission  
05.13 - Neo - I was the first one to land that  still sweet
05.19 - Madmax - nice krial to grind man
05.27 - Samurai - Sweet bsm i know you don't stunt much, so sweet !
05.33 - Neo - Neo again a great p2b !!
05.40 - Nitzkit - Nitz nice wallbump to precission !!  
05.47 - Madmax - good skimmer stunt man !!
05.59 - Dannye - good taxi boost man GJ  
06.07 - kaneda - Thats a wub able stunt man !!
06.16 - Nagual - netjes naggie  (nice one !!)
06.28 - Dannye - Thats fuckin pwnage !!  
06.37 - kaneda - bonk to precission SWANG !!
 06.42 - Docta Luv - again a docta to luuvvv man fuckin sweet !!
06.47 - Dannye - Nice wallride man
06.51 - Daffy - Good bump to grind you showed me that before i love it  
06.58 - Nagual - ramp to stoppie looks good  
07.04 - Aries - fuckin creative helicopter bump swang !!! now go for the top  
07.10 - Neo - nice p2b neo AGAIN  where are the .col files !! ?  
07.14 - Samurai - is it just me or ... gj on ... landing it ?  
07.27 - KidA - i was fuckin planned to use that man i have that landed in front of my damn face  still nice one man its a bitch
07.31 - Madmax - 2 double grabs  
 
Outro : Nice outro man good job on scripting it i like it

Overall :

An very exciting video it didn't gave me the special feeling of ats back i dunno why ... maybe lost the old school editing a bit ?  
Other then that it was fucking sweet the damn creative shit i allways expect from ats nice

8.7/10


I landed it on 25 April, but not in the stadium, on the wall =(    Click (http://media.putfile.com/-68-48)
I few times I landed it in the stadium too btw..
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: kr3mlin on June 19, 2007, 12:53:26 AM
Ok its official....

ATS release videos whenever I take two days or so away from GTAS. It has happend the last three videos they have released....its nuts

Anyway I am downloading and will provide my comments as always on some of my favourite stunters in VC  Well done on another release and gathering by the number of pages on this one (which im not going to read  ) it is really well done or controversial
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: NeDizZ on June 19, 2007, 02:42:28 AM
How did I manage to miss this for two days when I was so waiting for it..

I was really excited when I saw this thread, was really nervous when I got bad speed from File Front. While watching I was like O_O. Overall the Intro, Outro, this kind of stuff was really awesome, trully one of the best I've ever seen in a stunt video. The stunts rocked too, I don't mind some of them were old or did before.
But I just hate prodigy, so that's a big down. The black and white theme was a good idea, but it lacked some color modification or something, like someone mentioned, that it would look, for an example, like Sin City.

It looked overall like a mix of a themed video and a stunt video. It was definitely very stylish and enjoyable - A Must Watch!
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: jessrocked on June 19, 2007, 02:42:57 AM
i said i want that black and white mod..
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: kaneda on June 19, 2007, 04:37:13 AM
Quote from: blah
After watching it again, I have a question.

When you guys scripted the intro with all the bikes riding next to each other perfectly in line, it didn't look good.  It only didn't look good because they were perfectly side by side.  Would it be impossible, or even just too much work, to slightly offset each of the riders?  I think that would have looked a lot better.

I probably should go read the tutorial and see for myself, but I'm a cunt like that.

I guess if you had the rider's take off at different times, it'd give that effect. It'd just require some wait states between car_drive_to lines. I think you'd lose a bit in those panning shots though...but I get what ya mean.


Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: JL on June 19, 2007, 04:53:45 AM
That was the most awesome VC/LC stuntvideo i've ever seen. Definitly my new favorite.

Really, AWESOME job!
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Yama on June 19, 2007, 07:56:17 AM
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Post by: (krashkiller) on June 19, 2007, 09:56:27 AM
awesome vid, the stunts was really awesome  i love the intro and the outro  thats cool

Good job ATS !
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Post by: BloodyHook12 on June 19, 2007, 09:58:31 AM
Yep, good to see you guys still stunting. Seriously, I'm happy just to see you come out with stunts after all this time.

The video was great though. It had a different vibe going through it. Something not quite like the old ATS, nor the Awakening. Reminded me of Twos Tale. Not sure if I did like the whole video in black and white like that, but it's something unique. Good job with it. The editing was very nice, perfect you could say. The music, well it was kinda generic. But it fit well with the theme I guess. Intro and outro were huge as always. You guys always have something good prepared.

Now the stunts, haha, some of them really caught my eye. Kaneda continues to dish out some incredible stuff. Good job on that wallride2grind. I've tried a while back, but got bored with it. Also those precision stunts man, I love that. Everyone else had some good stuff too of course. Madmax continues to push the limits of the pizzaboy I see, well done.

So yeah, good job guys. Very interested to see what you do with your next video.
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Post by: kilak on June 19, 2007, 11:22:49 AM
AWESOME vid !

9.5/10 i love this vid , because there are stunts and themed vid ! i love it

very very good !

GG !
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Post by: Raskal on June 19, 2007, 11:56:16 AM
Sweet Jesus Downloading
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Post by: Daffy on June 19, 2007, 12:37:16 PM
Quote from: (krashkiller)
Good job ATS !
ATS and...?
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: KillaMarci on June 19, 2007, 01:09:06 PM
The Daffmeister
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Post by: brandon6199 on June 19, 2007, 01:34:38 PM
Jeff Salk
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Post by: Nightkid on June 19, 2007, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: Daffy
Quote from: (krashkiller)
Good job ATS !
ATS and...?

The Prodigy for the great soundtrack!
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Kidding, you rocked this video Daffy, thanks for taking part. ;]
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Post by: Daffy on June 19, 2007, 02:14:37 PM
Thanks for giving me the chance
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Post by: Kingjad on June 19, 2007, 03:56:44 PM
LOL @ Daffy demanding recognition
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Post by: Dannye on June 19, 2007, 05:18:02 PM
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VC Catapulting! Awesome find man! You're the kr3mlin of VC!
Yeah I definitely got Kr3m to thank for this one. It came about by me thinking to myself, "I wonder if there is a VC equivalent to catapulting". After trying dead cars, boxes, garbage bags, those movable dumpsters, I came to barrels  . Shame I wasn't as successful when I wondered if there was a VC equivalent to monster dynamics  .

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Roof or the containers would've been a nicer landing tho.
Yeah thats true. Interesting story, I had landed the crane (the one right above the barrels), I've even got the rep. I decided not to submit it because: while I did ensure the car was set to vulnerable, I didn't think to disable unlimited car health (this was one of my really early attempts before I knew what was gonna be possible), and thus the bike didn't get set on fire from the explosion, which it obviously should. My thinking was it didn't make much difference, as the fire doesn't cause you to explode until a few seconds later (time enough to land up on the crane), and thus it was really only a visual issue. But I figured just to make sure, I'd do the stunt again "properly" (car vulnerable and no unlimited health), and unfortunately I just wasn't lucky enough to land the crane again, what you see here was the next best thing that I was able to do.

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Awesome wallride, shame you landed upside down.
Yeah I would have loved to have the clean landing, but alas. I tried it a few more times afterwards but that little bump thing at the start wasn't being too friendly, so I stopped.

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First time I've seen Dannye on a black PCJ
There's no denying they do look pretty darn cool. Hehe, first time you see me on a black bike is in a black and white video

Thanks for all your comments and reviews guys!
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Post by: HeX on June 19, 2007, 11:40:11 PM
holy shit 15 pages
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Post by: jessrocked on June 20, 2007, 01:36:11 AM
give me that b&white mod...
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Dark Rebel on June 20, 2007, 11:59:52 AM
I love it !
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Post by: Urban Legend on June 20, 2007, 08:00:27 PM
If the entire video was filmed in black & white I had no idea at first.
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Post by: Kingjad on June 20, 2007, 08:12:19 PM
Did people notice the intro was started out in colour, but faded to black and white city just before they drove off on fire?
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Post by: jessrocked on June 20, 2007, 09:11:41 PM
yeah, overlap? they probably filmed two of those, in color and in b&w, since the camera moves exactly the same so, i cant express more what i mean ... lol
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Post by: Dannye on June 20, 2007, 09:18:37 PM
I swear the headlights of the bikes in the intro had evil faces staring at me... or am I just paranoid?
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Post by: Nagual on June 20, 2007, 11:51:51 PM
Any chance of upping this to TGAHQ anyone?
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Post by: Daffy on June 21, 2007, 03:06:27 AM
I would if TGA had some better upload software that wouldn't crash my browser.
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Post by: jessrocked on June 21, 2007, 06:25:19 AM
yeah... cool
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Post by: bogeymaster on June 21, 2007, 09:19:22 AM
  that was just awesome!!!  
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Post by: Optical on June 21, 2007, 11:39:28 AM
Awesome video  I really liked the Madmax's double AG's
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Torque on June 21, 2007, 02:44:54 PM
I'd love to see a TGA link of this too but it's 117MBs over the max file size TGA allows.
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Post by: NuclearDeath on June 21, 2007, 03:01:05 PM
Quote from: Torque
I'd love to see a TGA link of this too but it's 117MBs over the max file size TGA allows.
I thought Out of Reach was bigger and uploaded on TGA mate...I'm wrong ?
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Post by: jessrocked on June 21, 2007, 10:55:42 PM
is a giant mod possible?
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: quraysh on June 21, 2007, 11:37:43 PM
Awesone Video,and This is one my favorite videos  

EDIT:Sorry For Bumping old topics


Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Caio on June 22, 2007, 06:26:25 AM
OMG definatelly going to dl it
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: kaneda on June 22, 2007, 09:22:41 AM
More responses to...uh...other responses:


Quote from: BloodyHook12
Not sure if I did like the whole video in black and white like that, but it's something unique.

Thank you! I was waiting for someone to say something like that.

Quote from: jessrocked
give me that b&white mod...

You'd have to see Neo for the LC portion of that mod. The VC one wasn't done quite as flawlessly and as a result would often crash my VC. Functional enough to record the reps, but on the whole it would need to be redone.

Quote from: Dannye
I swear the headlights of the bikes in the intro had evil faces staring at me... or am I just paranoid?

Paranoid...or slightly demented.

Quote from: Optical
Awesome video  I really liked the Madmax's double AG's

Here here. Max's stuff blew me away, and it's good to hear more recognition for his submissions.

Quote from: jessrocked
is a giant mod possible?

As far as I know...it isn't. Would be very groovy though.

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Post by: KING on June 22, 2007, 12:15:32 PM
i have but one question how did you convince daffy to join knowng hed get mugged....  and bravo on the cinematics neo how long did those take to script
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Post by: Neo Anderson on June 22, 2007, 02:34:56 PM
Quote from: Torque
I'd love to see a TGA link of this too but it's 117MBs over the max file size TGA allows.
All that's needed is "permission" to upload large file sizes. Any admin @ TGA can do this like Sam or Aries.


Quote from: KING
i have but one question how did you convince daffy to join knowng hed get mugged....  and bravo on the cinematics neo how long did those take to script
Daffy knew nothing about the outro and to be honest I was stuck for an idea for one. It was a little rushed and was the only thing that popped into my head at the last minute.

Thanks man, I am an intro junkie    The intro....I'd say about 3 to 4 hours by the time I got all the timing down right. The outro took about 30 minutes.
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Post by: Kingjad on June 22, 2007, 02:59:22 PM
It would take me days to get the intro/outro done. Nice one Neo!
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Post by: Neo Anderson on June 22, 2007, 04:33:15 PM
The LC black and white mod has been added to the GTA Mods filefront account.
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Torque on June 22, 2007, 04:46:29 PM
Like half this topic is talking about the mod and the other half is talking about the vid.

I dled the mod to see what changes were made to the game and wowza! Many kudos to the creators of that mod.

On-Topic: It's still a really kick ass vid.
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Post by: Aries on June 22, 2007, 05:00:05 PM
Two of the TGA admins are IN the crew, why the hell would you think we'd object, someone upload
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Post by: Kingjad on June 22, 2007, 05:08:34 PM
YOU upload, you mean Aries  what you busy doing at 1am lol.
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Post by: Torque on June 22, 2007, 05:29:38 PM
Quote from: Aries
Two of the TGA admins are IN the crew, why the hell would you think we'd object, someone upload

You see how unfair that is!!!
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Post by: Neo Anderson on June 23, 2007, 05:35:10 AM
Quote from: Torque
Like half this topic is talking about the mod and the other half is talking about the vid.

I dled the mod to see what changes were made to the game and wowza! Many kudos to the creators of that mod.

On-Topic: It's still a really kick ass vid.
Kans initial idea, I just had to do ALL the work  
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Post by: Cdarmy on June 23, 2007, 06:07:52 AM
Should i upload it to TGA?
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Post by: mAsTeR on June 23, 2007, 01:13:10 PM
Guys this vid is amezing yes i watch it 6 times cool Intro and End and Main Part is like some sweet candy  just delicious
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Post by: Solaris on June 23, 2007, 03:30:42 PM
Ace work guys, you've out done yourselves again. Once again you've managed to amaze the GTAS community with your voodoo magic. That's what we need.

Don't hurt yourselves guys
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Post by: CRYOSPHERE on June 24, 2007, 09:48:48 AM
Damn the intro and outro were really awesome. Stunts were of course awesome too but the intro and outro were just so funny
greetz
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Post by: arKy on June 24, 2007, 11:23:37 AM
omh finally im here DLING!
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Post by: HeX on June 25, 2007, 03:25:43 AM
so is there any plans on making a new video in the near future im just asking dont get mad
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Post by: Nitzkit on June 25, 2007, 04:21:29 AM
Quote from: H3XECUTIONER
so is there any plans on making a new video in the near future im just asking dont get mad

not at the moment
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Post by: Neo Anderson on June 25, 2007, 02:07:31 PM
Yeah, don't we deserve a break or what?
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Post by: Mickey! on June 25, 2007, 02:27:18 PM
Yh give them a break , i can see another 6 pages out of this topic xD
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Post by: HeX on June 25, 2007, 11:23:19 PM
Quote from: Mickey!
Yh give them a break , i can see another 6 pages out of this topic xD

ask just asked for if you where going to release a video this year
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Post by: Neo Anderson on June 26, 2007, 09:25:29 PM
All I can say is maybe.
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Post by: Raskal on June 27, 2007, 07:54:10 AM
I don't care what everyone else says, I think Neo Anderson is a scripting god. Cheers to you on that, you really know what you're doing

As for the stunts in the video... Wow? Fuck you guys, why are you all so good.

I'll be in the basement if any of you guys want to "viciously" take advantage of me.  

Awsome video over all, Congrats on another classic.
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Post by: Madmax on June 27, 2007, 03:04:22 PM
Quote from: RasKaL
I'll be in the basement if any of you guys want to "viciously" take advantage of me.

Sweet. I'll send our goat and watch him xD


Thanks guys for all the feedback. As for a next video. You know us. We never know and we take things slowly and cool. I would think we will probably make another video but not any time soon. In my opinion we have set ther bar pretty high with this video and it will take a shitload of work, planning and ideas to top this
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Post by: Neo Anderson on June 27, 2007, 03:17:01 PM
Quote from: RasKaL
I don't care what everyone else says, I think Neo Anderson is a scripting god. Cheers to you on that, you really know what you're doing

As for the stunts in the video... Wow? Fuck you guys, why are you all so good.

I'll be in the basement if any of you guys want to "viciously" take advantage of me.  

Awsome video over all, Congrats on another classic.
Thanks man for the very kind words and for enjoying our vid.
Oh and ya better watch out for Max's goat  
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Post by: Raskal on June 27, 2007, 09:03:57 PM
I love goats
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Post by: ZeroX on June 28, 2007, 04:07:36 PM
Great editing that was a joy to watch.

Doesn't feel like ATS anymore at all, all the traits are gone, there were some great stunts in this still but a lot of old and mediocre stunts made it through by the looks of it, you can't tell me it isn't an issue in ATS, I was in ATS, I specifically remember several occasions where we had told people their stunt wouldn't be in the video because it was old/easy, I specifically remember being told certain grinds aren't long enough.

Some things that caught my attention...

Kan's stunts, as always.
Aries' PSM to grind is great, though poorly executed as that fence is quite easy to grind around the corners
Max's pizzaboy grind, I was trying that a couple of months ago and got several attempts that were up to par to what was in this video, you should have kept trying that one TBH
The editing at the start of the main song, that was cool
Dannye had some pretty interesting stunts as always
Cool outro
Docta luvs grind near Vrock, honestly, I think everyone who has hit that spot more then 20 times has done that stunt =/ Even without using that Reality mod (why this is not considered modding is beyond me, I was disgusted TBH when I first seen Nagual's grind to grind on that same building)

ATS used to have a feeling of flawlessness IMO, not today.
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Post by: Nitzkit on June 28, 2007, 04:10:44 PM
^ must have been cause I didnt get to "really" stunt for this vid

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Post by: Solaris on June 29, 2007, 03:24:26 AM
Nitzkit ya rat bastard, I was joking.
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Post by: Docta Luv on June 29, 2007, 06:54:32 AM
It really isn't an issue, ZX.  If one of us wants a stunt in, it's basically in if there's room.
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Post by: Mythic on June 29, 2007, 11:31:12 AM
I enjoyed this, i loved the editing and Neo's scripting, finally Daffy got beated (not in stunting, too bad ). Not as good as i assumed, but i liked it. End wasn't any weird to me, that makes me think Nitzkit was the editer...

Music 9/10
Nice sync with the video, and kinda good track anyway.

Stunts 8/10
Some old one's and some stoled spots (like Daffy's SL grind, Samurai didnt landed that before Daffy right? That was nice anyway )

Editing 9/10
I liked black and white mod, though i dont wanna see it anymore...

Nice video anyway, though i was waiting some pwnage from Nitz, you fucker!
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Post by: Ruchy on June 29, 2007, 01:35:11 PM
I love this movie lol , the ghost rider intro was awesome  seeing some veteran stunters like samurai was really exciting . Good job
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Post by: Nitzkit on June 29, 2007, 05:33:08 PM
Quote from: Solaris
Nitzkit ya rat bastard, I was joking.

I didnt find it funny
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Post by: Brainkiller on June 29, 2007, 06:32:58 PM
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Post by: xKxzOuhx on June 30, 2007, 09:21:27 AM
Nice Vid ATS!! nice edting and stunts (especially the intro)
9/10
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Post by: ZeroX on July 02, 2007, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: Docta Luv
It really isn't an issue, ZX.  If one of us wants a stunt in, it's basically in if there's room.
Bullshit lol, tell that to darkness who had his stunts left out of no limits.
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Post by: Docta Luv on July 02, 2007, 11:25:07 AM
I can't speak about before I was around, I suppose
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Post by: Aries on July 02, 2007, 01:46:27 PM
It isn't an issue now, case solved.
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Post by: Nitzkit on July 02, 2007, 03:34:15 PM
Quote from: ZeroX
Quote from: Docta Luv
It really isn't an issue, ZX.  If one of us wants a stunt in, it's basically in if there's room.
Bullshit lol, tell that to darkness who had his stunts left out of no limits.
 
that was because YOU edited no limitz
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Post by: Kingjad on July 02, 2007, 03:43:49 PM
I was going to say 'didn't you edit that' to ZeroX when he posted as well lol, but I would've assumed he would have replied 'it was a crew decision' or something along those lines.

Look at Aries trying to quickly sweep it under the rug  keep this on-topic guys. ZeroX, take whatever issues you may have to PM and MSN.
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Post by: Charnel on July 03, 2007, 05:56:49 AM
nice ! 9,5/10  MadMax pizzaboy stunts is awesome !
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Post by: _Hiei_ on July 03, 2007, 06:27:43 AM
fuck, downloading...

Oh fuck this was awesome guys... more than awesome, way more! I enjoyed this so much... music, mods, stunts, editing.. everything was kinda perfect. Really really congratulations and THANKS for making this vid! I cant go throught all these pages of "10/10's" so I ask here, sorry if it has been asked before, how the HELL did you make GTA black and white? how the hell did you make those bikes burning (ghost rider style ) and how the hell did you make yourselves so big!  

Feel free to ask when you got some time dudes...

Thank you a lot...
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Post by: kaneda on July 03, 2007, 03:17:47 PM
Black & white VC = complete texture overhaul. The only txds left colour were select bikes and player textures.

Bikes burning was done with a specific opcode. That was Neo's department, so I'm not sure what opcode exactly.

Giant models weren't giant at all...it was just some green screening and masking work.
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Post by: Ferσή on July 03, 2007, 09:12:42 PM
Quote from: Aries
It isn't an issue now, case solved.
You guys are too nice lol.
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Post by: yoyocool2 on July 04, 2007, 02:08:04 AM
Just watched b4, and it was very nice great stunts and editing 9.5/10
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Post by: Neo Anderson on July 04, 2007, 03:16:58 AM
Thanks guys for the replys  

When you create the vehicle ya need to set the actors immunities or else he won't be fire proof.

00A5:  400?? = create_car #ANGEL at -303.462!  -951.758!  25.639!
0175: set_car  400?? z_angle_to  180!
00AE: unknown_set_car  400?? to_ignore_traffic_lights  1?
00AD: set_car  400?? max_speed_to  0!
02AC: set_car  400?? immunities  1?  1?  1?  1?  1?

Then this is the opcode for fire on a vehicle.

0325: 15@ = create_fire_on_car 400??
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Post by: _Hiei_ on July 04, 2007, 06:51:34 AM
You are the shit Neo  

And you really did a great masking work then, kaneda (?), it's you who edited the vid, right?

I have one more question tbh... XD it's about Dannye's stunt at the docks in LC.. ( it blew me away *__* ) I wonder why it doesnt work for me, I tried to replace my main.scm with the backed up I had but still the bike doesnt feel the explosion.. I could probably do it a while ago but I cant remember how to do a lot of this stuff now.

Thank you a-gain
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Post by: Dannye on July 04, 2007, 07:11:46 AM
If the bike doesn't "feel" it, the only explanation I can think of is that vehicle invulnerability is turned on. If thats not the problem, I got no idea. I am glad you liked the stunt though
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Post by: Eddeman on July 08, 2007, 07:47:37 AM
Now that I'm back from the land of oversized burgers, DLing

Edit: What the hell, LEGEND. Ahahah, oh wow I can't find words. I'll get back to you on how awesome that was
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Post by: HeX on July 08, 2007, 07:36:46 PM
lol eddeman you have benn gone for quite a while
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Post by: Ralleee on July 10, 2007, 05:10:29 PM
Quote from: Eddeman
Now that I'm back from the land of oversized burgers, DLing

Edit: What the hell, LEGEND. Ahahah, oh wow I can't find words. I'll get back to you on how awesome that was
Rofl!

Yeah, I've missed you, Eddeman.
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Post by: Slaughtered on July 14, 2007, 05:40:07 AM
AWESOME! That is the best stunt video ever. With the best EVER intro and The Funnyest Ending.
A Muggage , and a girl getting .... screwed by a goat.


100000000/10
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Post by: octupus8 on August 31, 2007, 05:55:06 AM
HOT DOG I loved this vid.  
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Post by: Souzuk on September 07, 2007, 09:04:03 AM
nice video  like the stunts
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Post by: GT-7 on September 08, 2007, 10:35:30 AM
I was bored and i started to think something what would be some fun in vc. Then i remembered this vid's outro and those giant tommys. So my question is that are they available, like are they mod or something. Havent never seen before and im curious..
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Post by: ImPaKt on September 08, 2007, 10:54:08 AM
Thats already been answered, it was done with green screen editing, no mods
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Post by: Aries on September 08, 2007, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: GT-7
I was bored and i started to think something what would be some fun in vc. Then i remembered this vid's outro and those giant tommys. So my question is that are they available, like are they mod or something. Havent never seen before and im curious..

There not available sorry. I dont even know how it was done myself  I'll get back to you soon if nobody else has answered it.
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Post by: Nitzkit on September 08, 2007, 06:10:57 PM
it was all green screen  ... how could you not know? (dont answer that)
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Post by: Psycho on September 08, 2007, 10:23:08 PM
that brings up the question...

How do you go from green screen to final product? is there a certain software you need or something?

(or do you just edit it out frame by frame? )
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Aries on September 09, 2007, 02:20:53 AM
Quote from: Nitzkit
it was all green screen  ... how could you not know? (dont answer that)

If you look closely at the person who walks past Kenji's, you can see them through the glass rail, so I thought, either really well done, or something else
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Post by: GT-7 on September 09, 2007, 04:24:42 AM
Okey, thx for answers... but some1 would make it to mod..  
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Post by: Nitzkit on September 09, 2007, 07:29:56 AM
Quote from: Aries
Quote from: Nitzkit
it was all green screen  ... how could you not know? (dont answer that)

If you look closely at the person who walks past Kenji's, you can see them through the glass rail, so I thought, either really well done, or something else

well kan edited, so its really good
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: GT-7 on September 10, 2007, 07:18:33 AM
Quote from: GT-7
Okey, thx for answers... but some1 would make it to mod..  


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Post by: Neo Anderson on September 10, 2007, 01:35:08 PM
Quote from: GT-7
Quote from: GT-7
Okey, thx for answers... but some1 would make it to mod..  



Try asking in the Mods section  
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Post by: Solaris on September 10, 2007, 05:42:21 PM
I remember Kan saying something about green screen and masking. It isn't hard at all to have characters show up through rails.
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Post by: Psycho on September 10, 2007, 07:06:42 PM
did he tell you how it's done?
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Post by: Solaris on September 10, 2007, 08:41:53 PM
...green screen and masking.
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Post by: Psycho on September 10, 2007, 09:33:45 PM
I'm sorry, I still don't know how to do that.

I mean as far as the green screen, that should be easy, but I usually steer clear of masking cause it's been unnecessary until now.
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Post by: Taclite on October 10, 2007, 12:07:22 PM
Yeah I'm gonna bump this too since I've been away for a fucklong time.

Were you on acid when you made that intro? Sure seemed like it
Nice vid, really nice editing, lovely. Just lovely.

Max you sick fucker, those doublegrabs were.. were... I'm speechless. I think I love you <3

And the ending, couldn't stop laughing, hilarious guys

The amazing thing is that you guys are still around, what are you, like 30 years old?



Loved it. 10/10!

ALL HAIL ATS o/
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Post by: Juan on October 10, 2007, 01:10:57 PM
Dont think i ever commented on this vid as well. Geniouses tbh, all of you. Specially Kan for the editing, and Nitz and Neo for the coding. The B&W mod is hot.
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Post by: Neo Anderson on October 10, 2007, 01:30:31 PM
Thank you guys  
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Post by: FoX`MaSteR on October 13, 2007, 08:45:54 AM
OMFG i'm late !      
 amazing ! great ! omfg the editing pwn
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Post by: sony on October 13, 2007, 10:46:00 AM
Fuck.....I wanted to bump it today when I watched it....
FUCKING NICE VID, WITH THE BEST INTRO and OUTRO EVER
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Post by: Neo Anderson on October 13, 2007, 12:50:12 PM
Thanks again guys  
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Post by: Turtle Boy on October 13, 2007, 03:40:50 PM
Meh might as well post, Yea this is one of my fav vids, The intro is nice, as well as the outro, but the stunts are just perfect. Amazing job Neo and all of ATS. I can only hope someday ill be in such a vid.
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Post by: Madmax on October 13, 2007, 08:07:30 PM
Quote from: Taclite
Max you sick fucker, those doublegrabs were.. were... I'm speechless. I think I love you <3


I love you too <3  
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Post by: sony on October 13, 2007, 11:30:41 PM
Max's sig is a bit old
(But still nice to have a look at it  )
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Post by: Neo Anderson on October 15, 2007, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: Madmax
Quote from: Taclite
Max you sick fucker, those doublegrabs were.. were... I'm speechless. I think I love you <3


I love you too <3  
Couple of pervs  
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Post by: Matbugss on October 19, 2007, 05:13:43 AM
Daffy died in end.  

But fucking pwnage video guys, even this is veeery late.



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Post by: sony on October 19, 2007, 10:16:58 AM
Quote from: Madmax
Quote from: Taclite
Max you sick fucker, those doublegrabs were.. were... I'm speechless. I think I love you <3


I love you too <3  

I have no problem with gays if they're not near to me
jk
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Post by: Zebra on October 21, 2007, 05:53:47 AM
What's the meaning of 6:27 to 6:37 that stunt?TAXI Air Grap?
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Post by: sony on October 21, 2007, 06:05:00 AM
He fall onto the Taxi  Awesome
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Post by: Maverick on November 06, 2007, 07:18:51 AM
Nice movie :]
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: gaaboor on January 08, 2008, 05:05:06 AM
Quote from: sony
He fall onto the Taxi  Awesome

The bridge ride a Inter Global Filmstudio is nice.
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Post by: Dannye on January 08, 2008, 05:10:53 AM
Yeah, shame about the landing.

Thanks guys.
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Post by: Pendji on January 08, 2008, 09:12:08 AM
Quote from: gaaboor
Quote from: sony
He fall onto the Taxi  Awesome

The bridge ride a Inter Global Filmstudio is nice.
bump >_>
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Post by: Darkyy on January 08, 2008, 10:09:19 AM
Quote from: BazrunStunter
Quote from: gaaboor
Quote from: sony
He fall onto the Taxi  Awesome

The bridge ride a Inter Global Filmstudio is nice.
bump >_>
Shut up, you useless boy spamming every topic you can. This video was probably already on top of the list seeing as it is the last video released by ATS.

To stay on topic, I keep on watching it from time to time even though it's been some times since it has been released. Everything is outstanding, stunts, editing, music. One of the best video of the year for sure.

Edit : Oh and between 2:41 and 3:03 is that some scm also, where you get those turning camera of your player' skins litteraly stopped in the air.
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Post by: BullzEye on January 08, 2008, 12:02:17 PM
Question: Who thinks of the names for crew videos?  

Quote from: sony
He fall onto the Taxi  Awesome

Not to mention the boost being pretty good  
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Pendji on January 08, 2008, 01:21:19 PM
maybe i spam, but im permanent bored and got no shiz to do
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Post by: Macsta on January 09, 2008, 01:56:00 AM
Thats no excuse ^^  Anyway well ppl are bumping this topic, i would like to say great vid, the stunts the editing the music. Brilliant  Sorry for the bump, but i had to say it, i love it  One of the best of last year
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Post by: Flat Face on January 09, 2008, 03:53:49 AM
this vids defenatly gona win some awards  i voted for it a few times
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Post by: Ferσή on January 09, 2008, 07:18:09 AM
They are your best friends now.
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Post by: Flat Face on January 09, 2008, 07:50:15 AM
Quote from: Feron
They are your best friends now.


everyone's best friends now

btw kaneda .. howlong did it take you to land that air - bump - precision in LC?
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Post by: xKyEx on February 13, 2008, 02:19:16 AM
thats one pwnmage vid
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Post by: JL on February 13, 2008, 03:13:04 AM
...I wish there was a new ATS-video.
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Post by: Pendji on February 13, 2008, 03:57:48 AM
i wish ppl didnt bump =(
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Post by: Neo Anderson on February 13, 2008, 06:04:11 AM
Quote from: JL
...I wish there was a new ATS-video.
Me too  


Quote from: BazrunStunter
i wish ppl didnt bump =(
Me too      
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Post by: puzzLe on February 13, 2008, 06:48:46 AM
Just a little patience
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Post by: SnowMan on February 13, 2008, 10:21:36 AM
Quote from: Puzzle
Just a little patience
a little bit much
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Post by: kaneda on February 13, 2008, 01:13:48 PM
Quote from: Flat Face
Quote from: Feron
They are your best friends now.


everyone's best friends now

btw kaneda .. howlong did it take you to land that air - bump - precision in LC?

...don't ask  
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Post by: Enough on February 13, 2008, 06:50:14 PM
respact kaneda

 
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Post by: Susp3ct on February 15, 2008, 01:42:45 PM
Is there any working link to the LQ?
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: HeX on February 15, 2008, 04:37:00 PM
yeah you tube.
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Post by: Susp3ct on February 15, 2008, 04:40:03 PM
Download, preferencially...
Title: ATS - Trial By Fire
Post by: Neotec on September 09, 2008, 06:02:49 AM
Sry for that late reply but still awesome
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Post by: novo on September 09, 2008, 06:07:23 AM
you bumped
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Post by: Pendji on September 09, 2008, 06:21:41 AM
HOLY S---! YOU NOTICED !


Still one of fav vids (after Exposure. bwahhahaa)
Title: Re: Trial By Fire
Post by: Shingetsu on October 14, 2011, 06:41:10 AM
Can Who share me the VC B&W ? I Like it
Title: Re: Trial By Fire
Post by: Rainbow on October 14, 2011, 06:54:34 AM
Can Who share me the VC B&W ? I Like it

He used an effect in Sony Vegas... Atleast I am guessing he did. Sin city effect?
Title: Re: Trial By Fire
Post by: FloW on October 14, 2011, 07:15:17 AM
No, it was a mod.

For LC: http://www.mediafire.com/?nmzttyjdouy (http://www.mediafire.com/?nmzttyjdouy)
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Post by: Shingetsu on October 14, 2011, 05:29:39 PM
I know . I mean is VC B&W mod , not LC B&W because i had it
Title: Re: Trial By Fire
Post by: Kingjad on October 14, 2011, 06:40:19 PM
I thought they were both mods - at least in History of ATS part 4, Neo said it took a few months to do LC, and he, Nitz and I think Kan tried to do VC as well late on.
Title: Re: Trial By Fire
Post by: kaneda on October 15, 2011, 06:25:05 PM
We never did keep the VC version. It was buggy as hell, and was done in such a rush that we didn't really make an effort to debug it.
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