Demon & Ruiner - Frostbite

[Ｄｅｍｏｎ]

I'm not denying the fact a mod was used.

The true question is, what are rules? In my opinion, it's something that was written a while ago that covers most scenarios and that lets us know how to react in a situation. If we obey the rules, the video should be moved to the Modded section.

But rules are not perfect, because their author cannot have thought of every single case, and even so if he did there are still sometimes when a human has to interact and voice his opinion, because even if it may not be right it will always be superior to following one piece of text.

When I see a video in the Modded section, I expect it to use stuff like ramps, modified handling or gravity or whatever you can think of. In this video I see great effort of using a clean game and pushing it to the limits, with one stunt where not the run up nor the bump was modified, but the landing. He never meant to make his stunt easier but just to make it look better by not crashing into an invisible wall that shouldn't be there.

A very tiny part of the video is modded. The perfect solution is to move it to the Modded section, the correct solution is to let it in the unmodded section, because we are not perfect and that's the least of credit these guys deserve for such a video.

You can't expect from everyone to accept the communist politics that rules in WH, where modded stunt is same as not modded, where modded vid is same as un-modded vid. You do not talk about the rules and whether they are perfect or not, but utterly hypocritical justify modding and cheating. Stop to insult our intelligence, create the modded vid section in WH and put all your vids there.

we will forgive you because most  stunts which are higher than 100 ft are modded for you . how dare you say these words as a noob

[Skuller]

I'm not denying the fact a mod was used.

The true question is, what are rules? In my opinion, it's something that was written a while ago that covers most scenarios and that lets us know how to react in a situation. If we obey the rules, the video should be moved to the Modded section.

But rules are not perfect, because their author cannot have thought of every single case, and even so if he did there are still sometimes when a human has to interact and voice his opinion, because even if it may not be right it will always be superior to following one piece of text.

When I see a video in the Modded section, I expect it to use stuff like ramps, modified handling or gravity or whatever you can think of. In this video I see great effort of using a clean game and pushing it to the limits, with one stunt where not the run up nor the bump was modified, but the landing. He never meant to make his stunt easier but just to make it look better by not crashing into an invisible wall that shouldn't be there.

A very tiny part of the video is modded. The perfect solution is to move it to the Modded section, the correct solution is to let it in the unmodded section, because we are not perfect and that's the least of credit these guys deserve for such a video.

You can't expect from everyone to accept the communist politics that rules in WH, where modded stunt is same as not modded, where modded vid is same as un-modded vid. You do not talk about the rules and whether they are perfect or not, but utterly hypocritical justify modding and cheating. Stop to insult our intelligence, create the modded vid section in WH and put all your vids there.

we will forgive you because most  stunts which are higher than 100 ft are modded for you . how dare you say these words as a noob

And all you do is keep saying that people suck and you're so good at big airs... Listen now you little cunt you're NO ONE. At least Arnax have his own style and is doing something different than the others and also he did much more for GTAS at all. But no you're mr the best and all guys that keep saying that you mod are noobs for you but actually you're just the same modder like many others - nothing different, overall guys which already ruined this great game. Believe me I don't fucking care what do you think for me or about your arguments, I don't even post here anymore cuz there's no point of that but sometimes I just can't watch this bullshit and I can't believe what anti-people live on this world.

[Ｄｅｍｏｎ]

I'm not denying the fact a mod was used.

The true question is, what are rules? In my opinion, it's something that was written a while ago that covers most scenarios and that lets us know how to react in a situation. If we obey the rules, the video should be moved to the Modded section.

But rules are not perfect, because their author cannot have thought of every single case, and even so if he did there are still sometimes when a human has to interact and voice his opinion, because even if it may not be right it will always be superior to following one piece of text.

When I see a video in the Modded section, I expect it to use stuff like ramps, modified handling or gravity or whatever you can think of. In this video I see great effort of using a clean game and pushing it to the limits, with one stunt where not the run up nor the bump was modified, but the landing. He never meant to make his stunt easier but just to make it look better by not crashing into an invisible wall that shouldn't be there.

A very tiny part of the video is modded. The perfect solution is to move it to the Modded section, the correct solution is to let it in the unmodded section, because we are not perfect and that's the least of credit these guys deserve for such a video.

You can't expect from everyone to accept the communist politics that rules in WH, where modded stunt is same as not modded, where modded vid is same as un-modded vid. You do not talk about the rules and whether they are perfect or not, but utterly hypocritical justify modding and cheating. Stop to insult our intelligence, create the modded vid section in WH and put all your vids there.

we will forgive you because most  stunts which are higher than 100 ft are modded for you . how dare you say these words as a noob

And all you do is keep saying that people suck and you're so good at big airs... Listen now you little cunt you're NO ONE. At least Arnax have his own style and is doing something different than the others and also he did much more for GTAS at all. But no you're mr the best and all guys that keep saying that you mod are noobs for you but actually you're just the same modder like many others - nothing different, overall guys which already ruined this great game. Believe me I don't fucking care what do you think for me or about your arguments, I don't even post here anymore cuz there's no point of that but sometimes I just can't watch this bullshit and I can't believe what anti-people live on this world.

I never see people said that my bigairs are blalalala. though most of these guys are or were in WH . so they are not the points in your eyes. and Arnax 's style with what he has done for GTAS doesn't make any sense for accusing me in the area which he is actually a NOOB in it.

[MxZz.]

And arnax' stunting style is to land a stunt that contain nothing, great

[Simon]

Let's stop there shall we? If you guys can't keep to PM I'll have to lock this topic.

[Luky]

Awesome video, lots of insane big-airs that blew my mind, and that grind2ledgegrind by Demon completely knocked my socks off.

Oh and concerning that one 'modded' stunt, I believe moving the video to the modded section because of this single stunt is ridiculous. Everyone knows that the word 'modded' has more connotations and people do associate it with a modded handling, etc. which is (hopefully) not the case here, so it's rather disrespectful to the guys who put in so much effort. Hell, I bet not even one tenth of the GTAS members browse through the modded videos section. If half the video was riddled with this, then I guess it would be reasonable to put it here, but just one stunt...come on. The way it should be solved - mentioning it in the first post and/or in the credits of the video...just my two cents.

[FloW]

I completely agree with Luky on this:

Everyone knows that the word 'modded' has more connotations and people do associate it with a modded handling

And that's a perfect idea, I can't believe that no one has proposed it yet:

mentioning it in the first post and/or in the credits of the video...

[Rainbow]

And that's a perfect idea, I can't believe that no one has proposed it yet:

mentioning it in the first post and/or in the credits of the video...

A few already did, but oh well. It's not a bad idea, but harder to put into practise unless you force these rules.

[Ed]

If all parts were agreed to put this stunt in, it shall definitely be put in VC Modded Stunting Videos section. But what I see here contradicts with my logic. Oh well, we're already used to this kind of shit.

Keep it up.
(GTAS 2014)

[Daffy]

[Plani]

I was going to write something but this sums up everything for me.

And arnax' stunting style is to land a stunt that contain nothing, great

[godson]

cool videa!

[Srcry]

I was going to write something but this sums up everything for me.

And arnax' stunting style is to land a stunt that contain nothing, great

I hate to sound defensive, and I'm not defending what Arnax said, but...

you have to be fucking stupid to not acknowledge how good Arnax is at stunting.

ARNAX' STUNTING STYLEZ CONTAINZ A LOT OF SUBSTANCE

I HATE YOU WH 

[Turtle Boy]

That fencegrind2ledgegrind around 5:30 was SIIIIIICK. Great vid guys. 

[Artifex]

The LV double grind was the best. To bad people land old SA stunts or SA spots in VC.