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GTA Series => Grand Theft Auto - Vice City => VC Un-Modded Stunting Video Releases => Topic started by: ApeX on January 27, 2007, 07:56:12 AM

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Post by: ApeX on January 27, 2007, 07:56:12 AM
OHOHOOHOHOHO Its Ready!!!!
Google Video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2999518036620259915&hl=en)
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Post by: ApeX on January 27, 2007, 07:58:30 AM
W00t w00t
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Post by: Species on January 27, 2007, 08:00:52 AM
Watching
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Post by: Wozzie on January 27, 2007, 08:01:01 AM
Watching
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Post by: Aeneon on January 27, 2007, 08:02:47 AM
Uplaod A HQ,Google Video Quality is SHIT!
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Post by: Energise on January 27, 2007, 08:05:09 AM
1st post.

This wasn't very good. Editing let the video down the quality was disgusting !
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Post by: Species on January 27, 2007, 08:06:22 AM
great video

9/10
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Post by: Kenny on January 27, 2007, 08:07:12 AM
Hmm.. it would have been better if someone edited for you. I mean, theres barely any synching to the music. I didn't know why people were looking forward to this video to be honest. Sorry. And the camera angles were horrible.


Can there be another release, just for the sake of getting a good video, please?



Hmm.. maybe this time someone else could edit, just a suggestion.
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Post by: Aeneon on January 27, 2007, 08:08:11 AM
I Agree with Kenny
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Post by: Wozzie on January 27, 2007, 08:08:17 AM
Good vid

8.5/10
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Post by: Kenny on January 27, 2007, 08:08:27 AM
Quote from: .Synergy
I Agree with Kenny
So can I edit?
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Post by: ApeX on January 27, 2007, 08:09:22 AM
..... when i make anothet video kenny can be editor......
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Post by: Boo on January 27, 2007, 08:10:00 AM
Well, stunts were good, editing sucked... google video < Utoobe.
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Post by: Kenny on January 27, 2007, 08:11:07 AM
Quote from: ApeX
..... when i make anothet video kenny can be editor......
How about you send the stuff in this vid?

Please man its for the sake of my stunt being in it... and some others that were expecting atleast the editing like your last video, but was disappointed
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Post by: ApeX on January 27, 2007, 08:12:08 AM
hah i edited last video whit windows movie maker and this whit sony vegas....
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Post by: Kenny on January 27, 2007, 08:13:00 AM
Quote from: ApeX
hah i edited last video whit windows movie maker and this whit sony vegas....
finallight uses WMM and he does a MUCH better job than most people using vegas.
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Post by: Aeneon on January 27, 2007, 08:16:32 AM
X2 ^
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Post by: Qouad on January 27, 2007, 08:38:04 AM
Let me guess, In flames - take this life?  

...watching.
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Post by: Daffy on January 27, 2007, 08:39:21 AM
HQ VERSION NOW!
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Post by: Aeneon on January 27, 2007, 08:44:27 AM
X2^
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Post by: Brainkiller on January 27, 2007, 08:45:00 AM
That was bad
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Post by: KillaMarci on January 27, 2007, 08:57:52 AM
That was ugly lol
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Post by: Kenny on January 27, 2007, 09:03:16 AM
Told ya lol.
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Post by: Godfather on January 27, 2007, 09:06:36 AM
The deadline was the 14th February? =O

-------
Stunts pwned
Editing sucked.
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Post by: NuclearDeath on January 27, 2007, 09:07:25 AM
Watching.
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Post by: Daffy on January 27, 2007, 09:10:51 AM
Horrible editing and music but the stunts were good.
At least i got to use my stoppie2grind
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Post by: Question on January 27, 2007, 09:14:57 AM
THIS VIDEO SUCKED OUT LOUD!!!!! !!!!!!!!

10/10  
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Post by: NuclearDeath on January 27, 2007, 09:16:57 AM
Stunt were good, i liked the first pz ptb.

Editing crap.

7/10.
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Post by: Kingjad on January 27, 2007, 09:17:32 AM
Just cos Vegas was used doesn't mean you'll get a greatly edited video...

Nice stunts, piss-poor editing  sorry.
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Post by: Aeneon on January 27, 2007, 09:20:36 AM
HQ Upload Please
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Post by: Question on January 27, 2007, 09:29:38 AM
^Your point?
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Post by: Kenny on January 27, 2007, 09:32:56 AM
Quote from: -Question-
^Your point?
He wants 2 versions of the video if I ever get a chance to reedit this video... looking at the comments I'd probably get a chance to do it... but then again ApeX seemed that he didn't want me to do it.. hmm.. lol Plethzorb must feel pretty bad for sending his stunts into this video. And disappointed.
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Post by: Energise on January 27, 2007, 09:36:03 AM
i think kenny should reedit this video and make a better intro, sorry thats true .

My idea for the intro ( if kenny gets to reedit).

You have them all standing on different Bill boards and it has there name on it and it zooms out.



Let Kenny reedit.
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Post by: Question on January 27, 2007, 09:37:48 AM
Hmm..Yeah, a re-edit of this vid would be nice. VERY nice indeed, maybe I can even get all 2 of my stunts in this  (even my blooper for the credits ) if this re-edit thing is gonna take place, would you need everyones stuff for it again?
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Post by: Daffy on January 27, 2007, 09:47:42 AM
I'm sending my rep to you know Kenny.
And so should everyone who participated in this... if you disagree i hope you fucking step on a cow-turd barefoot.
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Post by: Bliss on January 27, 2007, 09:49:56 AM
Told you it wasn't going to suceed  . There should be other music in it ( Metal is not the right music genre for stunting ) and maybe some better editing, dont use too much stuff in sony vegas, it will look trashy.

Anyways, maybe Kenny should try yea.

Sorry Apex
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Post by: Boo on January 27, 2007, 09:51:00 AM
^ a good metal is... like Static X and stuff...
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Post by: Bliss on January 27, 2007, 09:56:18 AM
Im with stupid, Cold, Enemy and those stuff could fit yea, i totally agree with you .

Just not those grindcore, black metal, etc.

Tackleberry got a nice choice of music for stunt videos tough.
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Post by: arKy on January 27, 2007, 09:59:18 AM
Watching!
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Post by: Kingjad on January 27, 2007, 10:13:47 AM
Has this ever happened to a video before? The participants in it revolt against the original version and kinda break-off to do their own to salvage some pride?

Quite interesting to take in as a mere viewer.
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Post by: BloodyHook12 on January 27, 2007, 10:23:49 AM
Quote from: Blizzaga
Im with stupid, Cold, Enemy and those stuff could fit yea, i totally agree with you .

Just not those grindcore, black metal, etc.

Tackleberry got a nice choice of music for stunt videos tough.

I disagree entirely. And I aim to prove you wrong in many ways.
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Post by: Bliss on January 27, 2007, 10:25:42 AM
Your opinion .
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Post by: Crazy on January 27, 2007, 10:26:59 AM
Quote from: Daffy
I'm sending my rep to you know Kenny.
And so should everyone who participated in this... if you disagree i hope you fucking step on a cow-turd barefoot.
X2^ me 2
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Post by: Kenny on January 27, 2007, 10:28:29 AM
Quote from: Kingjad
Has this ever happened to a video before? The participants in it revolt against the original version and kinda break-off to do their own to salvage some pride?

Quite interesting to take in as a mere viewer.
Theres a first time for everything
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Post by: Daffy on January 27, 2007, 10:28:48 AM
Quote from: Kingjad
Has this ever happened to a video before? The participants in it revolt against the original version and kinda break-off to do their own to salvage some pride?

Quite interesting to take in as a mere viewer.
Haha not in my time here
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Post by: Rev on January 27, 2007, 10:28:54 AM
Quote from: Boo
Well, stunts were good, editing sucked... google video < Utoobe.

x2, couldnt have said it better myself  
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Post by: BloodyHook12 on January 27, 2007, 10:29:38 AM
Quote from: Blizzaga
Your opinion .
Yes, and I'm proud to have a less-narrow view of stunting than yourself. Because once you accept what every genre offers to videos, you learn to appreciate everything you watch.
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Post by: Kenny on January 27, 2007, 10:30:36 AM
Quote from: BloodyHook12
Quote from: Blizzaga
Your opinion .
Yes, and I'm proud to have a less-narrow view of stunting than yourself. Because once you accept what every genre offers to videos, you learn to appreciate everything you watch.
Even Superiority by ZeroX? If so then you fucking rock lol.
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Post by: Crazy on January 27, 2007, 10:37:36 AM
apex , why did you said you have skills (editing) ?  
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Post by: Cdarmy on January 27, 2007, 10:48:37 AM
Whahahahaa
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Post by: Turtle Dick on January 27, 2007, 10:49:08 AM
Go Kenny!
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Post by: Crazy on January 27, 2007, 10:52:12 AM
X2^ 4 That
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Post by: Aeneon on January 27, 2007, 11:00:53 AM
Ill do some new stuns and PM kenny them then.
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Post by: sony on January 27, 2007, 11:10:16 AM
O_o Just Googlevid link? :S
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Post by: sony on January 27, 2007, 11:17:19 AM
Shit editing sorry
and that's made the stunts worse...
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Post by: Aries on January 27, 2007, 11:20:19 AM
You guys really know how to shit on someones parade don't ya?

I have to agree with the opinions that the editing wasn't as good as it could've been, but keep trying man, if you feel more comfortable in WMM, use it, Vegas can be confusing and daunting to use, so just keep at it or switch back to what you like best.

Also, don't let all the stupid offensive comments offend ya mate, people here expect way too much from beginners.

Good luck in future videos.
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Post by: Brainkiller on January 27, 2007, 11:24:37 AM
A remake/re-do sounds like a dumb idea  
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Post by: Glen1992 on January 27, 2007, 11:33:03 AM
I dont understand why you guys are botherd that much about editing  thourght this place was called gtastunting not gtaediting. I could understand if the editing ruined the stunts but it didnt.
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Post by: Aeneon on January 27, 2007, 11:48:59 AM
Quality was shit.
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Post by: PlethZorb on January 27, 2007, 03:35:08 PM
ApeX is one of the most unique stunters/editors I've seen on the scene lately!
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Post by: Devision on January 27, 2007, 04:45:26 PM
IMO The whole video didn't fit at all. The stunts we're ok but the rest imo wasnt that good.
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Post by: Nitzkit on January 27, 2007, 04:45:41 PM
what...the heck....was that?....im guessing all of what im currently thinking has been said, so just take people's advice and improve your editing next time. I did like the stunts...some were nice. I see someone did my drop bump krail to grind in havana... nicely done. I also liked the tank bump to the roof behind in LC...that looked sweet
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Post by: Torque on January 27, 2007, 04:58:19 PM
Instead of just bashing on the new guy you guys could try and help him out. In flames isn't that good to use in a stunt vid unless done correctly. It was a good effort I liked most of the stunts keep it and and try practicing with old stunts. I'm sure you'll get better.


edit: Ok I just read through the entire topic. I expect CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM instead of bringing someone down on their hard work on a vid. If anymore posts like

Quote from: Crazy
apex , why did you said you have skills (editing) ?  


Quote from: sony
Shit editing sorry
and that's made the stunts worse...


Quote from: .Synergy
Quality was shit.


Quote from: .Synergy
X2^


Quote from: KillaMarci
That was ugly lol


Quote from: Simon
That was bad



and the LIST goes on are made I will delete them. Sorry for not helping you out earlier today Apex. Keep on stunting and don't let what these immature idiots say get to you.
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Post by: memorex on January 27, 2007, 05:05:12 PM
stunts was good, but editing can be better with WMM, i dont belive its vegas  I turn off sound when hear music
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Post by: Neo Anderson on January 27, 2007, 05:08:38 PM
  uuuhhhhhh.........ok I'm gonna bite my tongue on this and just ask, don't you guys watch a prerelease of a video you've participated in? Ya know so you can check for mistakes and shit? Doesn't look like there was much help from those involved?
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Post by: Crazy on January 27, 2007, 05:14:31 PM
Quote from: Torque
Instead of just bashing on the new guy you guys could try and help him out. In flames isn't that good to use in a stunt vid unless done correctly. It was a good effort I liked most of the stunts keep it and and try practicing with old stunts. I'm sure you'll get better.


edit: Ok I just read through the entire topic. I expect CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM instead of bringing someone down on their hard work on a vid. If anymore posts like

Quote from: Crazy
apex , why did you said you have skills (editing) ?  


Quote from: sony
Shit editing sorry
and that's made the stunts worse...


Quote from: .Synergy
Quality was shit.


Quote from: .Synergy
X2^


Quote from: KillaMarci
That was ugly lol


Quote from: Simon
That was bad



and the LIST goes on are made I will delete them. Sorry for not helping you out earlier today Apex. Keep on stunting and don't let what these immature idiots say get to you.
ok  
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Post by: Bliss on January 28, 2007, 03:00:32 AM
It's not that bad after seeing it for a second time
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Post by: Kenny on January 28, 2007, 03:38:49 AM
So I'm not gonna re-edit anything?
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Post by: PlethZorb on January 28, 2007, 03:41:43 AM
Go ahead Kenny
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Post by: Kenny on January 28, 2007, 03:43:17 AM
Quote from: PlethZorb
Go ahead Kenny
I don't have your reps lol any many others too..
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Post by: FoX`MaSteR on January 28, 2007, 03:51:42 AM
7/10

i know better^^
the editing is too simple.
the stunts are classics.
Good job

HQ ! XD
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Post by: mAsTeR on January 28, 2007, 03:56:01 AM
I watch vid and its not bad but is nice to see how kenny edit movie so i vote  :reediting
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Post by: Bliss on January 28, 2007, 03:56:13 AM
Kenny, who still needs to send you the .rep files?
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Post by: Kenny on January 28, 2007, 03:59:56 AM
PlethZorb
-Question-
Cdarmy
Stunter Elite
.Synergy
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Post by: Aeneon on January 28, 2007, 04:21:47 AM
Ken Ken Kenny Im restunting
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Post by: Bliss on January 28, 2007, 04:29:13 AM
I gave him some new .rep files instead of the oldies .
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Post by: Kenny on January 28, 2007, 04:32:03 AM
Yeah, but now     

PlethZorb
-Question-
Cdarmy
Stunter Elite
.Synergy

needs to send me the stuff or else there's not going to be re edit.
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Post by: PlethZorb on January 28, 2007, 04:33:27 AM
Apex has them
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Post by: Kenny on January 28, 2007, 04:37:29 AM
Quote from: PlethZorb
Apex has them
You mean you don't keep your replays? Dude thats fucked up lol
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Post by: PlethZorb on January 28, 2007, 04:44:01 AM
rofl not for this vid, this vid is a one and only. but i think i have one stunt.
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Post by: SoRu on January 28, 2007, 04:45:54 AM
many stunts were old but there were other nice stunts
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Post by: ApeX on January 28, 2007, 04:50:45 AM
I let kenny re edit this...but i dont have replay so i send movie files  and i do few more stunts
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Post by: Kenny on January 28, 2007, 04:56:31 AM
Quote from: ApeX
I let kenny re edit this...but i dont have replay so i send movie files  and i do few more stunts
Hmm lol dude.. I rather recieve the replay files because your camera angles really sucked since the camera jumps everywhere.

Hopefully the people who sent reps would cooperate.
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Post by: PlethZorb on January 28, 2007, 04:58:34 AM
Add me.
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Post by: Kenny on January 28, 2007, 05:02:06 AM
Quote from: PlethZorb
Add me.
I don't have your MSN lol
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Post by: Aeneon on January 28, 2007, 05:51:04 AM
Mines [email protected]
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Post by: Kenny on February 03, 2007, 09:19:28 PM
Hurry up ApeX, I'm gonna start editing.
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Post by: PlethZorb on February 03, 2007, 09:50:51 PM
lol nice!
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Post by: brandon6199 on February 03, 2007, 10:16:54 PM
Well that video sucked im sorry

The windowed views, the annoying music, stupid editing, and some decent stunts, but thats all, im sorry guys that sucked :S
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Post by: Question on February 19, 2007, 04:33:06 PM
Bump; What's the 411?
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Post by: Cdarmy on February 19, 2007, 04:34:14 PM
Are you still redoing this kenny?
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Post by: Omega on February 19, 2007, 04:51:53 PM
the edition is
A HOLY SHIT
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Post by: Kenny on February 20, 2007, 12:49:02 AM
Yeah recorded all the shit. Editing should begin anytime soon.
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Post by: Jason on February 20, 2007, 01:03:45 AM
what just happened?
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Post by: PlethZorb on February 20, 2007, 01:15:24 AM
This vid is teh poon.
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Post by: ApeX on May 22, 2007, 07:24:56 AM
OLDD TOPIIC I SO MUCH HATE MY EDITING IN THIS VID  LETS BRING THIS OLD TOPIC BACK AND SAY THERE WAS NOOB EDITING LOOL THE EDITING WAS NOOB
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Post by: Kenny on May 22, 2007, 08:03:52 AM
lol, why didn't you bump my version of this video lol.
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Post by: jessrocked on May 22, 2007, 08:46:20 AM
bumped!! wahaha
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Post by: theonly_one on May 22, 2007, 09:06:32 AM
Shit! You did that in Vegas? Damn i can make better than that in the oldest version of WMM
The stunts where awsome, but some of theme where old, great job to all the STUNTERS!
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Post by: Rod on May 22, 2007, 09:09:05 AM
Quote from: theonly_one
Shit! You did that in Vegas? Damn i can make better than that in the oldest version of WMM

u suck
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Post by: DJ Marchello on May 22, 2007, 09:09:38 AM
i didnt like editing, the stunts was ok
a liked most daffy's stoppie2grind
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Post by: Heartagram Design on May 22, 2007, 09:10:42 AM
The most of the stunts are good, but the editing realy sucks^^
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Post by: Cody on May 22, 2007, 09:11:11 AM
Quote from: ApeX
OLDD TOPIIC I SO MUCH HATE MY EDITING IN THIS VID  LETS BRING THIS OLD TOPIC BACK AND SAY THERE WAS NOOB EDITING LOOL THE EDITING WAS NOOB
Kinda like your crappy editing in the AST vid.
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Post by: ApeX on May 22, 2007, 09:11:40 AM
I said this is old ^^ meh
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Post by: Viper- on May 22, 2007, 09:12:25 AM
watching
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Post by: Kenny on May 22, 2007, 09:17:26 AM
You bastards, DOWNLOAD MY VERSION AND STOP BITCHING
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Post by: ApeX on May 22, 2007, 09:26:53 AM
Kenny they dont want it ^^
THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!THIS IS MY OLD VIDEO!!!
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Post by: Rod on May 22, 2007, 09:37:48 AM



Quote from: Kenny
You bastards, DOWNLOAD MY VERSION AND STOP BITCHING


and where i download  
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Post by: Kenny on May 22, 2007, 09:50:18 AM
http://www.gtastunting.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=19593 (http://www.gtastunting.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=19593)
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Post by: Butler on May 27, 2007, 10:04:40 AM
as you told in my video... WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SHIT? do you liked it?
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Post by: Butler on May 27, 2007, 10:08:38 AM
all that guys did nice stunts.. the ediction was very sux all the guys not.. Apex didn't do any good stunt!
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Post by: Butler on May 27, 2007, 10:12:24 AM
Sorry apex but this video is a trash
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Post by: Kenny on May 27, 2007, 10:13:03 AM
LOL I THOUGHT I TOLD YOU TO STOP BITCHING AND DOWNLOAD MY VERSION


EDIT: Please don't double/triple post everywhere you go lol.
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Post by: Butler on May 27, 2007, 12:17:22 PM
yeah it's because this guy makes me nervous
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Post by: jessrocked on May 27, 2007, 04:05:49 PM
Quote from: Butler
Sorry apex but this video is a trash

OUCH!  
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