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Title: GPU explosion
Post by: Rainbow on May 26, 2013, 04:06:35 AM
I literally heard a loud bang inside my PC, and everything just shut down. After 2 hours of exchanging monitors because mine wasn't responding, asking my dad for his GPU and everything I now got a working piece of PC again. I have to hand over his GPU by tonight so I'd love to see a reply on here before that. My GPU is not repairable me thinks and a clip broke off so I won't even try to reinstall it in my case.

Talking about a case, this is mine(with other parts installed and everything, just an interwebs pic):

(http://www.stuartconnections.com/9839-thickbox/Dell-Studio-XPS-8100-Barebones-Case-Motherboard-350W-PSU.jpg)
It's a Dell Studio XPS case.

I screened all my details with CPU-Z (ignore the GPU as it is my dad's. Might be helpful in some way though because the new card has to fit):
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6056/pcspecsj.jpg)

The card that died a terrible death was the ATI Radeon HD 5670. Since that was some time ago I'd rather make a slight upgrade. I got about 150-250€ to spend. Which should be enough to re-buy the card atleast but more is better. Power supply is 350W. All the details of what I bought 4 years ago are here: http://nl.hardware.info/productinfo/95152/dell-studio-xps-8100-core-i5-650-4gb#tab:specificaties (http://nl.hardware.info/productinfo/95152/dell-studio-xps-8100-core-i5-650-4gb#tab:specificaties)  (In Dutch, sorry, but just click the tabs. I only upgraded the RAM from 4GB->6GB.


If I focus on a 1gb card, that fits my current parts (with or without upgrading the PSU) what should I take?

EDIT:// Got my money on this now:
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Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Dev on May 26, 2013, 04:38:37 AM
allbeast should help.
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Basium on May 26, 2013, 05:05:51 AM
have you ever removed accidentally the heatsink from GPU and started working without it?

350 W is very enough for the whole system by the way.

It may have the heatsink removed or the fan got stuck or stopped somehow.
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Paull on May 26, 2013, 06:00:48 AM
What the fuck bro  :ninja:
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Rainbow on May 26, 2013, 06:27:02 AM
have you ever removed accidentally the heatsink from GPU and started working without it?

350 W is very enough for the whole system by the way.

It may have the heatsink removed or the fan got stuck or stopped somehow.
I hope 350W is enough, got no clue  :P

And the fan still spins. The rest is just broken internally I guess. I am considering the 7850 now but hmm.
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Basium on May 26, 2013, 06:38:20 AM
have you ever removed accidentally the heatsink from GPU and started working without it?

350 W is very enough for the whole system by the way.

It may have the heatsink removed or the fan got stuck or stopped somehow.
I hope 350W is enough, got no clue  :P

And the fan still spins. The rest is just broken internally I guess. I am considering the 7850 now but hmm.
go for it but you need atleast a 450W psu to avoid risks.

If the old GPU internally exploded, there is no way to fix, it is totally damaged. Just leave it, it is outdated.
Go either for a 7850 or GTX 660.
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Sheep on May 26, 2013, 06:41:20 AM
Use this: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp (http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp)
to calculate how much power you need for your components.
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Rainbow on May 26, 2013, 06:59:04 AM
Use this: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp (http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp)
to calculate how much power you need for your components.
With the 7850 selected it comes in at 380-400W. So a 450W should be enough although 500W woulden't really hurt. The prices of PSU's are very variable, is there something I should look for? I mean the 450W's go from 17€-60€.
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Basium on May 26, 2013, 07:06:46 AM
corsair CX 500 is pretty nice for ATX rigs. It costs around 55 euros.
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Rainbow on May 26, 2013, 07:13:59 AM
So all in I'd spend around 240€. Fits the budget. I'll wait for some more opinions before I buy something but thanks a lot man  :)
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Rainbow on May 26, 2013, 09:04:00 AM
I just measured my case and everything. Turns out the 2gb version of the 7850/7870 will NOT fit. Unless I remove my HDD which is not an option. It's 280mm/101mm. Which is just enormous. And I don't want to buy a card that won't fit.


AAAAAAaand we are back to square one.
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Determined on May 26, 2013, 09:07:40 AM
If you can afford it, go for the Coolermaster haf xm mid tower, that shit will never disappoint you, and you'll be able to upgrade it with 1000w psu's if needed (they tend to be bigger than your average psu's and won't fit in standard cases), in case you might want to crossfire or stuff like that.
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Rainbow on May 26, 2013, 09:16:07 AM
If you can afford it, go for the Coolermaster haf xm mid tower, that shit will never disappoint you, and you'll be able to upgrade it with 1000w psu's if needed (they tend to be bigger than your average psu's and won't fit in standard cases), in case you might want to crossfire or stuff like that.
No I just want a good card that fits in my PC. Nothing above 500W is needed here D: Not really an all-out gamer. The most gpu intensive game I own is BF3. Which I ran kind of fine on the now passed away card. Everything on low/medium but I am fine with that. I'd like the make some sort of upgrade though.
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Blaze on May 26, 2013, 09:27:06 AM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131473 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131473)

Might fit. Newegg has the dimensions for each card so you might wanna check them and get a list of what fits.

Also 350w may be cutting it close for a power supply, infact im 90% sure most 7xxx series cards recommend a minimum of 500w. If I was you I would upgrade the card and PSU, wouldn't be too confident running a 7850 on a Dell prebuilt PSU.
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Determined on May 26, 2013, 09:27:54 AM
I think gtx 650's & maybe some others come in multiple sizes, just like your 5670. The 2gb won't really make a difference either, I had 570 1.3gb & when I upped it to 670 2gb, I could barely feel the difference in a lot of games, even battlefield ran the same it did with my old card, which is one of the reasons I  went SLI.
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Rainbow on May 26, 2013, 09:40:10 AM
Might fit. Newegg has the dimensions for each card so you might wanna check them and get a list of what fits.
Nope. The only have them in like 10% of the pages I check. And my PSU is pretty decent so far. They recommended 400W for the HD 5670 although I think that was ridiculous. Going for a 7000 series is a bit too hard for it though I agree.


If I focus on a 1gb card, that fits my current parts (with or without upgrading the PSU) what should I take?
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Determined on May 26, 2013, 09:44:10 AM
Are you focusing specifically on ATi/AMD cards or does it not really matter to you? You probably could go for Nvidia GTX 600 series card.
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Rainbow on May 26, 2013, 11:32:12 AM
Are you focusing specifically on ATi/AMD cards or does it not really matter to you? You probably could go for Nvidia GTX 600 series card.
I really don't care what brand or type I will use. As long as I don't need to buy a new motherboard or PSU (unless I need to ofcourse because of upgrading). If Nvidia fits in my housing and it fits my board then sure I'll go for a 600 series. The problem is that I don't have enough knowledge myself to know whether it is compatible.

EDIT:// Got my money on this now:
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Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Genyus on May 26, 2013, 01:42:52 PM
Getting a bigger PSU is defo a good idea, 500W seems good enough. The 660 is a great budget card, but if you got the extra money I'd go for the 660ti version.
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: MxZz. on May 27, 2013, 12:25:58 AM
Getting a bigger PSU is defo a good idea, 500W seems good enough. The 660 is a great budget card, but if you got the extra money I'd go for the 660ti version.
I'd tell you the same. Eventhough I like ATi's cards more when it comes to low-price/quality.
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Rusch69 on May 27, 2013, 03:57:41 AM
Just look up on Google what the HD 5670's maximum consumption under full load is. I assume it'll be something between 150-180W, so you probably don't even need a new PSU as newer cards are more efficient and need less power. It might be a close call, but sparing ~50 € by not going for a new PSU increases the budget for the GPU. :P

Most decent GPUs require at least 2x6 pin connectors and I don't know if your current 350W PSU offers that. If not, then you either have to go with a weaker card or really need a new PSU. The GTX 660 you mentioned only needs 1x6 pin and is a rather short card. You might just go with that or check out or Palit's OC model. Zotac has a cooler and more silent GTX 660, which is quite short also, but it needs 2x6 pin connectors. A 660 Ti or equivalent definitely requires 2x6 pin, so that kills it maybe, assuming your PSU only has 1 connector.
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Rainbow on May 27, 2013, 12:57:53 PM
Ordered the Palit non-OC. The OC version wasn't in stock and with the boost function on the normal one I can get up to the stock of the OC one (although the boost function of the OC takes it even higher but meh). Which is more then enough really. Ordered a new PSU just incase. I might upgrade other parts in a few years so might aswell buy a suiting PSU now. I'd rather play it save then getting in the risky zone. Eventhough I ordered before you replied still thanks for the input   :P

@MxZz: Yea I am an ATI fan aswell but I was struggling to find a good higher end card that fits in my case. Most of them were either expensive or 10,5" long. Which gives me trouble because it may touch the HDD since I have an SSD in first slot.
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: MxZz. on May 28, 2013, 07:58:37 AM
Just move the ssd to the second slot then :P
Title: Re: GPU explosion
Post by: Rainbow on May 28, 2013, 12:02:17 PM
Just move the ssd to the second slot then :P
Still in the way  :P And even if then the HDD would get in trouble with cables that need to go onto the motherboard. As we speak I am running this PC on my brand new Palit 2048mb GTX 660 and so far so good.  :) Getting the new PSU in was quite some work as nearly everything blocked everything else. But it's in now and temps are still low. Thanks all, I'll close this now (if I have the rights, dunno).
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