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Title: Genesis
Post by: kr3mlin on June 08, 2006, 12:50:17 AM
Genesis (Greek: Γένεσις, having the meanings of "birth", "creation", "cause", "beginning", "source" and "origin")

This is the first video and will not be the last. My three crew mates have pulled out all the stops and produced one hell of an opening video that was a pleasure to edit. I have included the replays of every stunt you will see in the video, so that you can get an insight into how we approach our stunts, and also that we are not perfect...you will see we screw up a bit.

As you know we all use the same skin, we are not looking for personal glory but rather to promote the crew and to be as creative as possible with stunting in San Andreas. We want to land stunts that look cool or are fun to land. This video represents our first attempt at this, and the originality and variety that you will see I hope will convince you

This is The Collective. The is our Genesis.

Genesis (TGA) (http://www.thegamersalliance.com/?do=dynamic&id=3916)

Streaming: Google Video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=492967675065950616&hl=en)

The Collective is:
-Corey
-kr3mlin
-Nucleardeath
-Tackleberry

Official GFX/All-round Photoshop Dude:
Misguided Angel
Title: Genesis
Post by: RAD on June 08, 2006, 12:51:11 AM
Ding-a-ling mate
Title: Genesis
Post by: stuntman on June 08, 2006, 12:54:21 AM
dling cant wait man
Title: Genesis
Post by: colibri on June 08, 2006, 12:56:32 AM
ohh dling!

*watched it*
10/10 loved it.
so, when are the collective fan userbars coming
Title: Genesis
Post by: Ph33r on June 08, 2006, 12:57:26 AM
dling dude....damn..i wanted to get the first dling post  ..but who cares...
Title: Genesis
Post by: C-Jay on June 08, 2006, 01:03:16 AM
Always a pleasure to see new videos especially from professional's like kr3mlin, Tackleberry etc  Downloading
Title: Genesis
Post by: Fugitive on June 08, 2006, 01:05:37 AM
Downloading. I'll write a detailed review after school.
Title: Genesis
Post by: Slim on June 08, 2006, 01:10:48 AM
Downloading!  
Title: Genesis
Post by: Ostits on June 08, 2006, 01:13:20 AM
d/loading, it'll be interesting to see how The Collective will rise!
Title: Genesis
Post by: C-Jay on June 08, 2006, 01:21:12 AM
I didnt like the fact that everyone looked the same because it made it really hard to tell you apart  Other than that it was a nice video but why did it have white bars in the side in the credits?
Title: Genesis
Post by: kr3mlin on June 08, 2006, 01:22:23 AM
^Kind of the point about the telling apart thing...your not supposed to

As for the white bars...a weird thing that happens to be, a bit of a bummer
Title: Genesis
Post by: Ph33r on June 08, 2006, 01:31:24 AM
Just watched it... A damn cool vid man!! IMHO, 9.7 overall!!
Title: Genesis
Post by: Qouad on June 08, 2006, 01:33:57 AM
downloading
Title: Genesis
Post by: kr3mlin on June 08, 2006, 01:34:41 AM
I was just saying to RAD, as a crew we own wallriding  Funny a crew I start up ends up doing that

EDIT:
The main reason for the limited shoutouts this time round is. Well basically this is our beginning, however this began from the end of our time at three awesome crews who pretty much have a stranglehold on SA stunting.

XSA TMS and FB, much love

EDIT2: Oh i stuffed up the file labelling for 3min26sec replay...here is the file if it happens to interest anyone

http://rapidshare.de/files/20835940/Taxi_w...2_roof__LS.html (http://rapidshare.de/files/20835940/Taxi_wallclimb_2_roof__LS.html)
Title: Genesis
Post by: Rise on June 08, 2006, 02:23:01 AM
is it possible to get a ff  or RS link?
Title: Genesis
Post by: Brulla on June 08, 2006, 02:30:26 AM
Have been waiting for this  

Dling

EDIT: Holy shit what a video, those car stunts were  and wallrides were also great. GJ
Title: Genesis
Post by: infested on June 08, 2006, 03:02:18 AM
omfg DLing!

(any plans on rendering an LQ version?)
Title: Genesis
Post by: ExPlosion on June 08, 2006, 03:37:29 AM
Downloading
Title: Genesis
Post by: kr3mlin on June 08, 2006, 03:39:04 AM
I will be looking for folks for a low res and FF links etc  Please
Title: Genesis
Post by: Tackleberry on June 08, 2006, 03:40:17 AM
Thanks for the comments so far. This feels like a great start. I love all the creativity in this vid. Good job everyone.
Title: Genesis
Post by: Omni on June 08, 2006, 03:46:45 AM
Hell yeah. Dling boys.
Title: Genesis
Post by: ExPlosion on June 08, 2006, 03:47:58 AM
nice vid  I didn't like the main music but the stunt were good , a lot of imagination and the bycicles stunts were  

9/10

Really Nice vid for a first
Title: Genesis
Post by: infested on June 08, 2006, 03:48:45 AM
That Sanchez wallride was really nice, both for finding and for executing ^^

LOVED the car stuff, I have to say. Btw Liviu will get pissed, believe me. He had pronounced the SF2LV bridge ramp2policestation impossible. Well... Lol someone of these four guys is his overman

Anyhow, a nice way to introduce the crew with a more different vid than what you usually see here at GTAS. I might give ya some ratings after I have watched the LQ version Brulla is rendering for me, so I can hear the music and watch every stunt with good, instead of as viewing them like pictures.
Title: Genesis
Post by: Omni on June 08, 2006, 04:13:08 AM
Sweet vid. Awesome editing, and some cool ideas although there were some weak stunts
Title: Genesis
Post by: Liviu on June 08, 2006, 04:16:59 AM
dling
Title: Genesis
Post by: stuntman on June 08, 2006, 04:24:31 AM
quality vid krem, editing was sweet as, music was top, i saw a couple of old stunts but the stunts were mint, and i also knew who did them just by looking at them, but not everyone can tell so your concept is working, but its not hard if you have watched stunters for long time to know what type of stunt they do and how they do it technique wise or whatever, but yeah defo a good start to the collectives first stunt vid. good job
Title: Genesis
Post by: Corey133 on June 08, 2006, 04:29:44 AM
Thx for all your comments, and good job to krem for the editing, really nice work, i love the intro  



Title: Genesis
Post by: Tackleberry on June 08, 2006, 04:56:20 AM
Quote from: stuntman
quality vid krem, editing was sweet as, music was top, i saw a couple of old stunts but the stunts were mint, and i also knew who did them just by looking at them, but not everyone can tell so your concept is working, but its not hard if you have watched stunters for long time to know what type of stunt they do and how they do it technique wise or whatever, but yeah defo a good start to the collectives first stunt vid. good job
Believe me, you can't say which stunts were made by which stunters, at least not the majority of them. Anyway, enough said about that now (please don't try prooving anything by guessing the stunters, we don't want that). Again, thanks everyone.
Title: Genesis
Post by: Liviu on June 08, 2006, 05:06:49 AM
i cant help it  first hydra stunt - tackleberry, 2nd, wheelie 2 grind - kremlin  last taxi boost - tackleberry written all over them


the vid was ok , best thing in it was the editing, the music was awful, it ruined it for me,  it didn't work at all, ruined it for me. However too few stunts were nice , honestly i watched it 1 time n all i can barely remember 6-7 of them of them, (i will give props for the infernus police station thing for being persistant, i always tried to go up the ramp, i thought of actually bumping the ramp when infested reminded me of the eternal shame i must bare with from now on for not thinking as hard as i can about the posibilities of bumping that) - and no you bum, he didnt allmost over shot it, in fact he barely made it

Not a bad start i guess, i forgot, some of the bicycle stunts were great

5/10 - music
9/10 - editing
7.5/10 - stunts

total 7.5/10
Title: Genesis
Post by: Tackleberry on June 08, 2006, 05:54:04 AM
Quote from: Liviu
i cant help it  first hydra stunt - tackleberry, 2nd, wheelie 2 grind - kremlin  last taxi boost - tackleberry written all over them
And I can't help it either, wrong...
As I said though, we don't want you to guess and so on, please respect that.
Title: Genesis
Post by: infested on June 08, 2006, 05:58:47 AM
I guess all the stunts were made by kr3mlin, Tackleberry, Corey and NuclearDeath. Correct?
Title: Genesis
Post by: kr3mlin on June 08, 2006, 06:12:01 AM
Haha..correct

You guys are free to guess but you will never get a straight answer. And its funny sometimes to see who gets things wrong
Title: Genesis
Post by: Tackleberry on June 08, 2006, 06:15:01 AM
Quote from: kr3mlin
Haha..correct

You guys are free to guess but you will never get a straight answer. And its funny sometimes to see who gets things wrong
Well yeah, ok then. Don't bother to ask us though.
Title: Genesis
Post by: Juan on June 08, 2006, 06:17:17 AM
  Shit i have a feeling im going to loose some stunts. Dling.
Title: Genesis
Post by: Ralleee on June 08, 2006, 06:20:11 AM
Downloading.
Title: Genesis
Post by: Slim on June 08, 2006, 06:23:59 AM
Great vid guys!
I wanna see more of this shit
Title: Genesis
Post by: Nitzkit on June 08, 2006, 06:36:48 AM
really nice video....i was impressed with mostly the BMX grinds...very creative, nice job peeps
Title: Genesis
Post by: Ralleee on June 08, 2006, 06:38:47 AM
Good vid, but I think it was gonna be better.  

Intro: 9/10. Good one.
Music: 2/10. Really sucks.
Stunts: 7/10. Good ones, some are not.
Editing: 10/10. Simple and great.

Over-all: 7/10. Good vid. But as I said, I thought it was gonna be better.  
Title: Genesis
Post by: NuclearDeath on June 08, 2006, 06:42:09 AM
FINALLY OUT!!
DOWLOANDING
Title: Genesis
Post by: Sweet2 on June 08, 2006, 06:51:54 AM
downloading peeps.
Title: Genesis
Post by: Falcon on June 08, 2006, 06:54:11 AM
dling
Title: Genesis
Post by: Kert on June 08, 2006, 07:03:55 AM
Sweet vid, good job everyone. Music was cool  , stunts were nice, some were weak imo, good tech stuff. Editing nice, good job krem. Nice start to TC, and i wish you all the best. Thanks for the shoutout
Title: Genesis
Post by: Sweet2 on June 08, 2006, 07:11:45 AM
It was awesome, but 3:33 was going to be in Juan's solo.

10/10
Title: Genesis
Post by: Juan on June 08, 2006, 07:24:54 AM
Wow kr3m i see you nailed that stunt you were trying from when you were in XSA.  

Juan's review of "The Collective: Genesis"

Filesize: 95,455,444 bytes (91mb)
Length: 05:33 (5 minutes & 33 seconds)
Codec: WMV
Intro music: Not sited.
Main music: Evermore- Its Too Late
Credits music: Not sited.
Stunters: kr3mlin, Tackleberry, NuclearDeath, Corey
Editing: kr3mlin
Credits: MA

The Stunts:
Editing, intro and music:
Great first vid, everyone keep at it.

Thanks to whoever introduced this method of rating vids.
Title: Genesis
Post by: Omni on June 08, 2006, 07:27:43 AM
Intro: Very cool although the music was a bit too strange

Stunts:
0:44: Pretty nice but it looked bad how you hit the floor, it was un-finished and you should've kept trying it till you did it cleanly.
0:58: Meh, not so great, the initial wheelie is easy and it wasn't a combo. Grind was unfinished too.
1:11: Strange taxi climb. Didn't look hard.
1:20: I had an idea of tring to 180 into backward stoppie on this from a PB. This is a weakish stunt I might do for fun.
1:33: 3 easy stunts in a combo doesn't make it hard although it was kinda creative.
1:53: An ok wallride but didn't impress me too much.
2:02: Cool bus stoppie 2 grind, although it probably wasn't hard.
2:16: There have been better motorway cab stunts. Again, pretty weak :S
2:24: Good PB. I liked it. Maybe could've double bumped or bumped though.
2:31: I used to do that for fun, never thought it was good enough for a vid tho. Still its original and looks cool.
2:42: A fairly easy freeway PB.
2:47: Not too hard but it was a pretty cool PB.
2:51: First awesome stunt. Really nice
3:05: Loved it. Very nicely done.
3:12: A nice wallride although I'm bored of these ones on the side of road :S
3:21: An ok freeway PB but doesn't look hard at all.
3:26: Really nice cab stunt. Smoothly done.
3:38: Cool idea but I think if you could've made the height less and still managed the krail which would've made the grind alot smoother and fast.
3:50: Cool idea, executed nicely. Nice one.
4:00 Cool but not as impressive as the one from the other side.
4:06: I'm sure many people have done that or similar. I did a krailed one on the flat rail further down before so this ain't too impressive.
4:11: Impressive car bump. perfeclt ylanded which is always a bonus
4:16: I liked this. is was original and well performed.
4:22: Very old and weak anyhow.
4:28: Would've been sweet if you got one of the higher buildings but the lower building made it only ok

Editing: The editing was the best part. I enjoyed the cam angles, and I like the use of the rotated camera effect as it creates interesting views of stunts. It was clean and the effects worked nicely. Nothing to complain about so GJ Krem.

Music: Surprisingly I enjoyed the music. It was different but it was a very nice song that worked well.

Overall: A good vid to start the crew off. Only a few really good stunts but it was still enjoyable to watch and the editing helped the stunts. I look forward to the next vid. But although the idea is cool I don't like not knowing who did the stunts and I miss Krems awesome skin already
Title: Genesis
Post by: Fugitive on June 08, 2006, 07:28:54 AM
Quote from: Juan
Wow kr3m i see you nailed that stunt you were trying from when you were in XSA.  

Juan's review of "The Collective: Genesis"

Filesize: 95,455,444 bytes (91mb)
Length: 05:33 (5 minutes & 33 seconds)
Codec: WMV
Intro music: Not sited.
Main music: Evermore- Its Too Late
Credits music: Not sited.
Stunters: kr3mlin, Tackleberry, NuclearDeath, Corey
Editing: kr3mlin
Credits: MA

The Stunts:
  • 00:43 - Nice Hydra loop, hitting the ground was a minus though
  • 00:58 - Excellent wheelie2grind
  • 01:11 - Didn't have the 'wow' factor
  • 01:21 - Was expecting more than a wheelie
  • 01:32 - Nice combo, try going for a full bw stoppie2grind
  • 01:52 - Awsome fcr wallride
  • 02:03 - Looks awsome, gotta try them sometime
  • 02:14 - A bit old, but very fun to do
  • 02:24 - Good looking pb, it crossed my mind but never tried it
  • 02:30 - Never would have thought of that
  • 02:40 - Nice redo with a freeway, tough to get vertical height in a freeway
  • 02:44 - Ok stunt, could have been done with a slower bike
  • 02:51 - What a distance, props to whoever did it
  • 03:05 - Best MTB wallride I've seen
  • 03:12 - Oh nice, I know someone who was trying that
  • 03:20 - Another ok pb
  • 03:26 - You bastard, it was going in my solo, meh ill still use it
  • 03:34 - Killer pb2krailgrind
  • 03:48 - Best bmx grind so far handsdown
  • 03:59 - Not very hard, i think i did it once messing around
  • 04:05 - Similar grinds have been done there before
  • 04:11 - An the awsome infernus stunts just keep on coming
  • 04:16 - I think Nazgul did it in 'Dusteater'
  • 04:22 - Done by Mr. Wite Gangsta in 'Altitude'
  • 04:28 - Leave some taxi stunts for the rest of us

Editing, intro and music:
  • Couldn't expect less from kr3m on the editing
  • Intro was nice, better than most
  • Music, kinda slow but kr3m can work with anything
Great first vid, everyone keep at it.

Thanks to whoever introduced this method of rating vids.
You stole my layout!
Title: Genesis
Post by: Juan on June 08, 2006, 07:38:09 AM
Well it should be a compliment then.
Title: Genesis
Post by: BloodyHook12 on June 08, 2006, 07:44:14 AM
Nice video. Just what I expected from you guys. I love the whole creativity going on with the crew. A lot of the stunts were very nice to watch. A lot of cool wallrides and grinds. Can't wait to see more.
Title: Genesis
Post by: Falcon on June 08, 2006, 07:49:46 AM
I didn't liked the way of showing the names ( not ) but the stunts were cool
7/10 ( 10/10 for stunts ) ( -3 points for the way do not have any names )
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Post by: Tackleberry on June 08, 2006, 07:57:06 AM
Thanks for the big reviews, those are always lovely to read. Thanks Juan and Omni.
Title: Genesis
Post by: Kert on June 08, 2006, 07:58:08 AM
Falc, that is their point...not showing names...   duh
Title: Genesis
Post by: NuclearDeath on June 08, 2006, 07:59:11 AM
Great edit krem,i like the intro idea.and some great stunt sure

8.5/10,it's just the heating.
Title: Genesis
Post by: Master_Yayo on June 08, 2006, 08:33:30 AM
that was schweeeet! the bmx wallride was awesome! also the fcr, nrg, and sanchez!! the freeway pbs were really good. also the taxi ones though i didn't expect i hydraulic flip, the grinds were extreme and also the infernus ones. The collective is cool because you don't have to worry about which stunts were done by who, although you could pretty much guess some  it lets you just enjoy the video. good job all stunters! 9/10 A-
Title: Genesis
Post by: VaNilla on June 08, 2006, 08:42:14 AM
Im downloading, will edit post
Great video, some were easy, about 3. Others were great and original, one BIG gripe about it though
3.13 I HAVE BEEN TRYING IT FOR AGES WITH BMX!!  9/10 video guys
Title: Genesis
Post by: kr3mlin on June 08, 2006, 09:24:12 AM
Quote
I didn't liked the way of showing the names

Dang i new id stuff up the editing somehow...i forgot to write who did the stunts...i even forgot on the reps...  j/k

Thanks for all the replies detailed and simple. Im glad to get a positive reaction. This video production was smooth. I set up the system, the guys stunted and the video came together. No real fuss and everyone was happy to work together

Update on our next crew video: approx 19/25 stunts required are landed (I took ages to edit Genesis due to exams)
Title: Genesis
Post by: corevil on June 08, 2006, 10:52:42 AM
thanx for share mates.... great first video!!!!
Title: Genesis
Post by: Turtle Dick on June 08, 2006, 11:03:18 AM
Cool vid dudes. I really liked the non-nrg stunts. Awesome vid. :bowdown:
The only bad thing is yous got Juan's taxi stunt.
Title: Genesis
Post by: kr3mlin on August 17, 2006, 04:12:54 AM
Another Collective video topic bump....we now have Google Video option for viewing this video. Check the first post

This is an option that will be available for all current and future videos from The Collective
Title: Genesis
Post by: VaNilla on August 17, 2006, 05:46:00 AM
You could have posted that in The Collective thread at SA Chat
Title: Genesis
Post by: kr3mlin on August 17, 2006, 06:00:58 AM
But then it would get lost when that particular discussion no longer worked...that topic isnt something i would be maintaining, too hard to do in a public section
Title: Genesis
Post by: Supdario on August 18, 2006, 04:29:51 AM
Quote from: kr3mlin
Another Collective video topic bump....we now have Google Video option for viewing this video. Check the first post

This is an option that will be available for all current and future videos from The Collective

And the video quality?
Title: Genesis
Post by: Coolman on August 19, 2006, 12:52:38 AM
Good Job  

This vidéo is very good  
Title: Genesis
Post by: Black cameleon on August 19, 2006, 01:33:36 AM
Good job, guys  

Very nice vid  
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