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[Plani]

Why do you always overreact, Plani?

Hi Herb, long time no see. Answering your question, maybe because i'm tired of seeing people without any clue of what is going on inside, talking shit about my crew which includes my friends that are the people i mostly care in this place? Please, read G CODE's posts and take notice of how agressive and provocative they are. You wanted me to call him honey and send flowers to him? C'mon dude, i know you do not like me but let's stop looking the personal side and let's take a look in the context. Your crew isn't the one being flooded by idiots nor is the one being flamed for one week now.

[Art]

@daffylatestposts, but tacklebery also modded in techjam after 2 or 3 years though. plus mxz modded in 2009, 2010 ,2012 (LOOK is in modded section) and 2013 (not sure about 2011, wasnt following gtasat all). And i dont know why tackleberry is so "awesome", i lose almost all my respect given to person/stunter after acknowledging he modded more than once. Plus, tackleberry kept it clean in stunting league, while mxz obviously broke the first and probably most important rule.

[Daffy]

I'm just using him as an example to make the point that some people have the potential to learn from their mistakes instead of repeating them, depends on the lesson they take away from it. He might not be the best example I could have used but now you're really just being difficult and grasping for points to argue.
The point remains the same regardless of who we use as an example so sure if you wanna debate who has more character of those who shown this character flaw be my guest but I'm not interested in that.
Also I don't wanna join some sorta 'who broke the more severe rules' dick-size comparison by which event was the worst to do it in because it's always bad and discussing degree is kinda futile when we really both agree that it's bad either way.

And for anyone interested, more than 2/3'rds of the votes are currently for kicking MXZ out of WH, each poll we do runs for a week where everyone has the option to change their opinion at any time before the time runs out.

[~ Đάмﮖтзя ~]

Might you link me the topic or just give a little more light into the Fugitive modding? I read somewhere that Tackleberry modded (no idea why, since all of his stunts are not only possible but also medium difficulty) but I had no idea about Fugitive doing the same thing. Actually I wonder even about Tackle since Ive been rewatching few old crew videos just few hours ago and I havent noticed anything fishy about his stunts. But when i watched some of the GLS videos, after those years Roche really seems so obvious even without looking at the bump twice or in slow motion.

Did I miss them both admitting or something? I only remember Genyus who was a big surprise to me.

@ Plani there is a reason SSU is not being flamed and WH is.

[Plani]

@ Plani there is a reason SSU is not being flamed and WH is.

First, this isn't about WH vs SSU for fucks sake. Second, do you think the whole crew should take the shit because one guy commited a mistake? Really?

[Art]

Might you link me the topic or just give a little more light into the Fugitive modding? I read somewhere that Tackleberry modded (no idea why, since all of his stunts are not only possible but also medium difficulty) but I had no idea about Fugitive doing the same thing. Actually I wonder even about Tackle since Ive been rewatching few old crew videos just few hours ago and I havent noticed anything fishy about his stunts. But when i watched some of the GLS videos, after those years Roche really seems so obvious even without looking at the bump twice or in slow motion.

Did I miss them both admitting or something? I only remember Genyus who was a big surprise to me.

@ Plani there is a reason SSU is not being flamed and WH is.

Fugitive - Out of Reach, LS serwers p2b
Tackleberry - Out of Reach LV grass2tankbump, Never Gonna stop LS crane p2b, Techjam bump2bridge.

[Daffy]

@ Plani there is a reason SSU is not being flamed and WH is.

First, this isn't about WH vs SSU for fucks sake. Second, do you think the whole crew should take the shit because one guy commited a mistake? Really?

He's not making this a WH vs SSU thing, he's stating the fact that SSU has not had the same problems that WH has had which is true because SSU is a crew that grew naturally with many core-members being active the whole time, and modding was not a problem in WH either when we kinda started again after Bad Company and grew naturally with core-members of our own like Ralleee, Eddeman, Stevex, Luky and myself included.
I'm not found of debating my own members but what's right is right regardless, and it's been after these core-members stopped stunting that we tried to 'inject' new life into the crew with people we didn't really know but seemed seemed like good fellas but it was of course a risk since they hadn't invested as much into the crew as the core-members had so it wasn't as big of a risk to them to mod, at least not an emotional one.

And take notice of this G-something-dude, this is us learning from this experience and how it can (hopefully) be avoided later.

[Plani]

Anyway, my question still remains. Mostly of the members worked hard this year to produce good videos and it's fair to throw their work in the garbage just because one guy fucked up?

And maybe in the near future WH should post the videos in the '' RIGHT SECTION'' the modded section.

[Daffy]

Yeah that's the obvious personal issue he had with us that I mentioned.

[~ Đάмﮖтзя ~]

Anyway, my question still remains. Mostly of the members worked hard this year to produce good videos and it's fair to throw their work in the garbage just because one guy fucked up?

Noone throws the whole video in the garbage, many WH videos, or for example Split the Atom is one of my favorite videos even though its fullfilled with so goddamn obvious mods. The whole crew shouldnt take the shit, but they shouldnt refuse it either because they took someone untrustworthy into their video themselves, and theyd pay for it. It is not completely making a video bad, but in my eyes modded stuff in videos with other awesome stunts is a real shame, and people should pay for it, as they didnt destroy, but they scratched a great video with their modding, and thus you can guess what Id vote for in the Mxz poll. (even thought he might not have modded his Carbon stunt)

I dont know where you found that i was talking about SSU vs WH, Daffy explained what i meant pretty detailed in his post, try to read inbetween lines before you post. This G-CODE guy is mostly someone else who made another account but if not, he is still being a little too straight forward and rude, because yes, after all there are also people who worked hard for the video.

[Plani]

Right.

And do you know another reason why WH is getting flamed and SSU isn't? Let's take Taz as an example (I know you accused him of modding but that's not the point here). When he released Watch this 1 he was accused by so many people and why? Because he was ahead of his time and pushed the limits. Now let's invert things a little bit and let's imagine if Braindead or any SA crew video with ''big airs'' stunts in it were released in 2007. If this suposition was true, Rusch or PrzemOO would be the ones with modding fame and of course SSU too. My point is: Someone have to brake the barriers and set the limit bar and the ''problem'' with WH is that we did it alot of times. Not only in SA but in VC too with Daffy, Eddeman, Luky, Stevex, Ralleee and so on. Many people are landing huge p2b's nowadays and why? Because someone came before and landed the presumed ''impossible'' stunts.

[JL]

Just gonna leave this here.

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I agree with Plani. Taz is a great example for a "bar-raiser" and personally i think that's what makes him very special as a stunter. On the other hand it's a curse, because he'll always have logs of shit thrown at him like in the past. That is sad, but also a little understandable.

[Named]

Hollyshit...you guys like to fight lol

[Art]

It's called progress guys.

Anyway, my question still remains. Mostly of the members worked hard this year to produce good videos and it's fair to throw their work in the garbage just because one guy fucked up?

was it fair for yourselves to accept a modded stunt(s) and get thrown in the garbage?

[Asaaj]

But the real quesiton is how are they supposed to know? SA is just so much of full of shit when it comes to modding that it grew natural to accept that some stunts look fishy because that's how FL off works sadly.