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Stunt Crew Network => Aero Reapers => Aero Reapers Video Releases => Topic started by: PM on September 28, 2017, 03:07:52 PM
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Hey you guys!
For the past few weeks, me and my crewmate Biel have been putting together a video for you. The main reason of making this project was our inpatient waiting for the AR crew video. Biel's incredible activity motivated me to stunt intensely once again for some time, just like in the old days, and that made us two collaborate. The editing is very simple this time so the stunts can be clearly seen.
Enjoy!
*Biel is wearing white t-shirt and rides a dark NRG
*I'm the one with the red NRG
Streaming:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZtA0ouFImk
Download:
https://mega.nz/#!8VwCnaRa!q_lrO2H-u8o1_jh3DIjkJdrUF7JIR6KxkQOn7Qozt_k
Full review:
Biel - P2B to police station:
PM - Ramp to electric tower:
Biel - Curbbump to ramp to silo:
Biel - Double grind with 360°:
PM - Verticalbump to grind with a cork:
Biel - Ramp to bump to roof:
PM - Bump to parking lot:
Biel - P2B to airport tower:
PM - Dumperbump to roof:
Biel - Drop to ledgegrind to grind with 360°:
PM - Smallbump to precision:
Biel - P2B to chimney:
PM - P2B to white roof:
Biel - Drop to curbbump to BB grind:
PM - P2B to wallride to casino:
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shit is dope
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Nice!
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Watching
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Awesome stuff!
Backwards backwheel bump?, caligula's prec, 360 2 double grind and the finisher stood out
Liked the edit too :P
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What's this wheel popping all about? I'm assuming it adds extra speed because otherwise I don't think some of these are possible? :unsure: And what is that dumper in the ground, or is there an underground carpark? Asking as someone who has not been up to date with current SA knowledge. Biel's two doublegrinds were sweet regardless.
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Like how did you both managed to land these monsterous bigairs in sa??? All I know is that your engine is now very scarse on bigairs.. nevertheless that was a fucking powerful video equivalent to the good old wh sa videos. Best stunts in my eyes were caligulas prec and ofc finisher... the cc was very fitting, maybe a tad more editing would've added more flame to it but I know you were in a hurry. All in all 9/10 (because of editing) other than that its flawless, absofuckinglutely mesmerising. Will be rewatching it!!
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Laming, mods & landing other people's ideas - well done! ;D
2/10 For the generic editing & song.
R.I.P. GTAS
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What a way to ruin the stunting scene even more, some spots that a lot of people have tried you guys are just landing them left and right, without struggle.I don't know how much fun you are having doing this, but it's not worth it
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Download link added: https://mega.nz/#!8VwCnaRa!q_lrO2H-u8o1_jh3DIjkJdrUF7JIR6KxkQOn7Qozt_k
Should fit perfectly in your database Rusch. :)
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You guys need to put more effort into hiding your mods :cc_detective:
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Not cool. I don't touch the game anymore but it indeed is a shame you're trying to make this pass as clean. Nice doublegrind nevertheless.
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woah dudes :o that was amazing! It has everything that a SA video needs - big airs, some cool grind combos - loved the double grind combo in SF near the stadium, just gorgeous! I just hope all of those stunts are clean, the above comments about mods scare me. And the NRG sliding easier - is it because the tire has been popped? New method?
Also can you explain the Dumper stuck method?? Is it even legal or you stuck it using Dannyes?
Sorry for all the questions, I am always curious about new methods in stunting and this just grabbed my interest by the balls.
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I lost the double grind with the backbump, another stunt i landed 4 years ago for the duo.
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Double post, this is funny how you released that video quickly right after i told you the duo with Taz is close to be released.
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Burn, you should finally release those stunts before you lose them all, didn't you say the duo plan was over? Or Taz appeared once again?
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What's suspicious about the video, isn't really the stunts imo, but the lazy editing. The stunts seem smooth and legit, despite the accusations bellow. First of all, when you have stunts like that, you wouldn't just put the clips after one another and put two or three flashes throughout the whole video. Perphaps it was due to the release of burn's video, perhaps not. But I don't think Promagic would rush a video this good stunting-wise.
That being said, I trust Filip and his stunts were great, can't say the same with certainty for Biel, but I guess the folks at AR trusted him when accepting him into the crew. Therefore it's worth mentioning the double grind was dope and the bigair spots as well. Wish you put as much effort into the editing process as into the stunting.
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Laming, mods & landing other people's ideas - well done! ;D
2/10 For the generic editing & song.
R.I.P. GTAS
Modding is allowed only to Butthursch and his friends, beware guys.
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no idea why you 3rd world kids even bother anymore, i guess this is the favelian way to relax after a stressful day of looking for bread crumbs in the dumpsters and dodging ak47 bullets
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I made the mistake of banning them before the replays were posted, even tho that didn't make a difference in my judgement I admit I was wrong for not asking.
Here are the replays which PM sent me in case anyone else wants to check.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/kes560
You're wrong tho, I don't know about Biel, but PM is 100% clean. His stunts are insane but where exactly do you see the mods? Yeah most of the stunters wouldn't be able to land them without mods, but he spends hours in GTA almost every day since 2007, you can't really expect "not insane" stunts from someone like this. I know him for 10 years, we talk every day and I know for sure that he's clean
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Sick stunts, havent seen most of em.
Finally some activity in this thread.
What a way to ruin the stunting scene even more, some spots that a lot of people have tried you guys are just landing them left and right, without struggle.
I really wonder how did you know if they have landed it without struggle? Coments like that always makes me laugh. Like you can judge how many time they spent while you have watched this video once lol. Wizard.
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Stunts were great, Big airs coming in
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I made the mistake of banning them before the replays were posted, even tho that didn't make a difference in my judgement I admit I was wrong for not asking.
Here are the replays which PM sent me in case anyone else wants to check.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/kes560
You're wrong tho, I don't know about Biel, but PM is 100% clean. His stunts are insane but where exactly do you see the mods? Yeah most of the stunters wouldn't be able to land them without mods, but he spends hours in GTA almost every day since 2007, you can't really expect "not insane" stunts from someone like this. I know him for 10 years, we talk every day and I know for sure that he's clean
Only post i gonna make: pm modded in the past and still does, and its fact , even in the ar vids.
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All I can say is that this video is very interesting for the wrong reasons and I am going to leave it at that.
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I made the mistake of banning them before the replays were posted, even tho that didn't make a difference in my judgement I admit I was wrong for not asking.
Here are the replays which PM sent me in case anyone else wants to check.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/kes560
You're wrong tho, I don't know about Biel, but PM is 100% clean. His stunts are insane but where exactly do you see the mods? Yeah most of the stunters wouldn't be able to land them without mods, but he spends hours in GTA almost every day since 2007, you can't really expect "not insane" stunts from someone like this. I know him for 10 years, we talk every day and I know for sure that he's clean
Only post i gonna make: pm modded in the past and still does, and its fact , even in the ar vids.
He definitely modded in the past, that's true. But I know for a fact that he doesn't do it anymore and believe it or not his stunts in this video are clean
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no idea why you 3rd world kids even bother anymore, i guess this is the favelian way to relax after a stressful day of looking for bread crumbs in the dumpsters and dodging ak47 bullets
(https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/f/f0/Mullet_redneck.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110506221002)Double post, this is funny how you released that video quickly right after i told you the duo with Taz is close to be released.
he's fucking coming hide yo kids
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Since this popped tyres shit got widespread, things just got weird. You should have kept it for yourself Burn, I trusted you, but I don't trust videos nowadays :unsure:
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Can't comment on bigairs but the grind combos were dope.
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3 years later, people still don't have any balls to call this garbage by what it is, really makes you think
promagik did you spend all your life savings and fell in debt by going to foo fighters concert that you are still stuck in a basement with med and sacc?
Biel's two doublegrinds were sweet regardless.
Nice doublegrind nevertheless.
kek
Laming, mods & landing other people's ideas - well done! ;D
2/10 For the generic editing & song.
R.I.P. GTAS
Modding is allowed only to Butthursch and his friends, beware guys.
favela still at it
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I just love taking a deep breath and smelling that fresh good old GTAS atmosphere. It really hits you with nostalgia
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include me in the screencap
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no idea why you 3rd world kids even bother anymore, i guess this is the favelian way to relax after a stressful day of looking for bread crumbs in the dumpsters and dodging ak47 bullets
get rusch's balls out of your mouth before talking bro, i can't reallly understand what you're saying
3 years later, people still don't have any balls to call this garbage by what it is, really makes you think
promagik did you spend all your life savings and fell in debt by going to foo fighters concert that you are still stuck in a basement with med and sacc?
Biel's two doublegrinds were sweet regardless.
Nice doublegrind nevertheless.
kek
Laming, mods & landing other people's ideas - well done! ;D
2/10 For the generic editing & song.
R.I.P. GTAS
Modding is allowed only to Butthursch and his friends, beware guys.
favela still at it
3 years later and you're still a pretentious fuck, sheep
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I have no fucking idea what is happening in this topic and in general. The grind2bump2grind was amazing other than that shit was dope but looked very much modded. I have very litte knowledge about modding though so I don't know. Was Biel the one we as WH decided to say no beacause of mods (lol)? I liked the video but if you stole from Burn and/or modded then fuck this. And I'm more inclined to agree with Rusch and Burn. I hope to see the Burn/Taz two duo one day.
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I just love taking a deep breath and smelling that fresh good old GTAS atmosphere. It really hits you with nostalgia
Aye to that
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Double post, this is funny how you released that video quickly right after i told you the duo with Taz is close to be released.
It's even funnier how quickly the opener was "landed", considering many amazing stunters have been trying it and couldn't even land the lower part...
I also wonder if it's clean, then why you didn't include it in the upcoming AR video.
it's a gg for GTAS honestly
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This is modded as fuck,
and some of the stunts are impossible. Seriously guys, if you doubt this is modded, go and try Biel's opener, and especially Promagic's Caligula sign without bonking the building (make sure you RAD near the right side of the curb to avoid the slow road next to the grass/dirt) [I was wrong, I just didn't have any success until recently]. Such a shame to see the finisher too, since it's actually possible, and Burn got close. Very disappointing.
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shitty editing :/ overused popped tire :/ nice cc and biel first grind is dope. your last good edit is diggin 3 PM, stop becoming a lazy mqtH. Biel, stop using my clothes too
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This is modded as fuck, and some of the stunts are impossible. Seriously guys, if you doubt this is modded, go and try Biel's opener, and especially Promagic's Caligula sign without bonking the building (make sure you RAD near the right side of the curb to avoid the slow road next to the grass/dirt). There's a couple of other impossible stunts, but those two stunts should tell you everything you need to know. Such a shame to see the finisher too, since it's actually possible, and Burn got close. Very disappointing.
Breaking my previous post just because i can.
Gotta agree with ss
Tried some stunts in compersion with the reps too and for example i didbt get the height of the 2nd stunt with and without pop tire. And the finisher wasnt even as powerfull as burns close try.
The only way to proof someone mods when they are hidden good is to put them in compersion with a vid with a almost identicly try
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The second stunt is easy, modded or not. Landed it in five minutes while testing some of these spots; the top is more difficult but it's possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYujJHEkZtE
UPDATE: Here's the replay in case you want to compare it with PM's attempt.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/1dmk12
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The second stunt is easy, modded or not. Landed it in five minutes while testing some of these spots; the top is more difficult but it's possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYujJHEkZtE
UPDATE: Here's the replay in case you want to compare it with PM's attempt.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/1dmk12
Well then i was just not getting the right angle i guess
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nice signature chilerboi :P
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6jNXytWBAI [biel]
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I find it hilarious how some posts get deleted while others aren't because they might be true. A bit of a coward move if you ask me but I wouldn't be surprised if this post also gets deleted. :euro:
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dude srly u talk too much shit, why the fuck would u care if they modded?
the entire video in my vision is perfectly clean, and what made me happy was that i got the same surprised feeling as WH and SSU later videos..
srly idk if its a good or bad thing but i just don't see modded something that just may be possible, u certainly should do the same
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what a group of cucks you are lmao
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dude srly u talk too much shit, why the fuck would u care if they modded?
the entire video in my vision is perfectly clean, and what made me happy was that i got the same surprised feeling as WH and SSU later videos..
srly idk if its a good or bad thing but i just don't see modded something that just may be possible, u certainly should do the same
All you have to do to confirm this is get close attempts on Biel's opener and PM's Caligula (with a single bump like PM, not a building bonk), and show us replays or live attempts [I was wrong, I just didn't have any success until recently.] That way you could say there's a chance these stunts were not modded, even though Biel and PM's executions look modded too. But nobody will get close to these stunts without mods, because they are impossible. Caligula is potentially doable with a building bonk, but the idea of doing it with a single bump is laughable if you've tried it yourself. [I was wrong, I just didn't have any success until recently.]
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Biels bumbs looks weird as fuck
this video and Nem as moderator Im done...R.I.P gtas
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Double post, this is funny how you released that video quickly right after i told you the duo with Taz is close to be released.
It's even funnier how quickly the opener was "landed", considering many amazing stunters have been trying it and couldn't even land the lower part...
I also wonder if it's clean, then why you didn't include it in the upcoming AR video.
it's a gg for GTAS honestly
I actually had the lower part landed, showed it to biel and he stole it, no idea why :cc_detective:
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Double post, this is funny how you released that video quickly right after i told you the duo with Taz is close to be released.
It's even funnier how quickly the opener was "landed", considering many amazing stunters have been trying it and couldn't even land the lower part...
I also wonder if it's clean, then why you didn't include it in the upcoming AR video.
it's a gg for GTAS honestly
I actually had the lower part landed, showed it to biel and he stole it, no idea why :cc_detective:
You're my friend and I never was going to steal a spot of you, I already showed you some attempts since I saw it as spot in GTAS. Also everyone already tried it, it's a known spot. I was not going to try it if you had the top landed :cc_detective:
So you just decided to mod it instead :cc_detective:
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dude srly u talk too much shit, why the fuck would u care if they modded?
the entire video in my vision is perfectly clean, and what made me happy was that i got the same surprised feeling as WH and SSU later videos..
srly idk if its a good or bad thing but i just don't see modded something that just may be possible, u certainly should do the same
All you have to do to confirm this is get close attempts on Biel's opener and PM's Caligula (with a single bump like PM, not a building bonk), and show us replays or live attempts. That way you could say there's a chance these stunts were not modded, even though Biel and PM's executions look modded too. But nobody will get close to these stunts without mods, because they are impossible. Caligula is potentially doable with a building bonk, but the idea of doing it with a single bump is laughable if you've tried it yourself.
https://plays.tv/video/59cfe3bd15bbd0e9b7/lvpd-p2b-close-attempt-3
Take your conclusions, it's time to you all make silence. That's all.
so, take your conclusions :D
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Decided to fully test Biel's LV Fountain P2B, because I must admit, I trusted the SSU guys' bias too much, having only tried it a little myself. My findings show that the stunt may indeed be possible, but I can't confirm this for sure, having only got close. However, they also show that while Biel's live attempts may be legit (doesn't account for SACC, gravity, handling adjustments, etc), his landing in Unease was potentially modded.
Video Link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwBMWyqX3fE
Based on how much slower his attempt was, I'd say the likelihood he modded is reasonably high. Just to be safe, I followed all of the instructions he gave on YouTube (bottom paragraph).
(https://i.gyazo.com/2b675c04c0d980b79cf9939b6ab0896c.png)
You can make your own judgements based on my presentation :ajaja:.
My Replay - https://www.sendspace.com/file/7t7gb5
Biel's Replay - https://www.sendspace.com/file/mkhia9
UPDATE: Found something really strange in his live attempts. Using Biel's same live attempt from my video (https://plays.tv/video/59cfe3bd15bbd0e9b7/lvpd-p2b-close-attempt-3), we can show Biel's speed increased when he touched the Packer; it absolutely should not do this. Note: These are the most accurate frames I can get, given Biel's live frame rate.
My speed before the Packer - https://i.gyazo.com/7f9980e0df3e4ed4b947b29ba26e5d5c.png
Biel's speed before the Packer - https://i.gyazo.com/40909e800fac21538779439021f88a69.png
My speed on the Packer - https://i.gyazo.com/d9c2ba6a7357d5e0b91b6a99af8dd47f.png
Biel's speed on the Packer - https://i.gyazo.com/825bd9c4963b04dfbbe9ad3905a8374a.png
My speed decreased from 142mph (228.527kmh) to 138mph (222.089kmh) when I touched the Packer; I didn't drop my RAD or anything like that, this is simply unavoidable. Biel's speed increased from 226kmh to 227kmh; he used the same RAD technique as I did. My speed decreased by 6.5kmh, Biel's speed increased by 1kmh. That should not be possible; I'm sure everyone understands this. As far as I'm concerned, Biel modded using tools like SACC to achieve this, as opposed to modifying his handling file.
UPDATE 2: Now here's the real kicker. Watching Biel's 4th close attempt (https://plays.tv/video/59d039c5b6a5d782b5/lvpd-p2b-close-attempt-4), you will notice that he gets a road bump during his runup. This significantly reduces his speed when he reaches the packer; what do you think should happen in this situation? Note: These are the most accurate frames I can get, given Biel's live frame rate.
My speed before the Packer - https://i.gyazo.com/7f9980e0df3e4ed4b947b29ba26e5d5c.png
Biel's speed before the Packer - https://i.gyazo.com/940015c20476c12adb2bd5742708c26d.png
My speed on the Packer - https://i.gyazo.com/d9c2ba6a7357d5e0b91b6a99af8dd47f.png
Biel's speed on the Packer - https://i.gyazo.com/56122136b3bfdb29356d5474cbf040ca.png
Biel's speed when he reached the Packer was 216kmh, and it decreased to 211kmh when he touched the Packer, just like it should have. This was 12kmh slower than my attempt when he reached the Packer, and 11kmh slower than my attempt when he touched the Packer. Despite this, Biel managed to get his closest live attempt so far; he edged the top of the building. This should definitively show that Biel is modding; thanks for wasting my time :mellow:.
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is speed the only factor here? Wouldn't hitting the right part of the fountain or something else important? Also could it be that the low graphics Biel uses make an impact.
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is speed the only factor here? Wouldn't hitting the right part of the fountain or something else important? Also could it be that the low graphics Biel uses make an impact.
The low graphics wont effect the collison of a bump or the nrg so i dont think so
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My frame rate was about 120fps when I got my attempt. The game cannot go much higher than that, because it has an approximate cap of 142fps (see my post here - http://www.gtastunting.net/index.php?topic=68959.msg1350651#msg1350651). Having 22 more frames would not change bumping physics in any major way. The bump is an important factor, but the speed is the most important part of this stunt. To that point, let me show you something that should demonstrate exactly what I'm talking about. We have established that both my and Biel's replays are animating at the same speed; we can rule out replay lag or anything like that. He gains less speed than me during the runup; we have established that as well. Keeping that in mind, please look at the boost of speed he gets on his way towards the Packer.
(https://i.gyazo.com/ba63c956ceeb499389c09ab4c3370644.gif)
Video Link - https://i.gyazo.com/ba63c956ceeb499389c09ab4c3370644.mp4
As you can see, my speed drops on a linear basis when I touch the Packer. Biel's speed increases drastically on his way towards the Packer, and continually increases when he touches the Packer; this allows him to land the building despite previously having a slower runup. Keep in mind that Biel was slower than me up until this point, but starting both clips from the middle of the grass, Biel somehow manages to reach the Packer first. Biel is CLEARLY modding, it shouldn't even be a discussion now.
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I see. So how exactly is he doing it? Is there a line in handling that you can change to allow less speed loss when hiting the packer? Beacause it looks more like the SACC thing where he just clicks a button to get a slight speed bump at the right moment.
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I see. So how exactly is he doing it? Is there a line in handling that you can change to allow less speed loss when hiting the packer? Beacause it looks more like the SACC thing where he just clicks a button to get a slight speed bump at the right moment.
Sacc boosts are almost always seeable, only not if you do it on a certain way
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He could be using Rochepeach's method for sacc.
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Good old SS is back :P I'm not sure what to say about this video honestly, guess I'm gonna give some of the spots a shot. Don't expect much from me though, as I haven't really touched the game in a while.
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I see. So how exactly is he doing it? Is there a line in handling that you can change to allow less speed loss when hiting the packer? Beacause it looks more like the SACC thing where he just clicks a button to get a slight speed bump at the right moment.
I haven't used SACC myself, so I don't know exactly how it works. I just know that it allows you to boost, and I think it allows you to configure the power of that boost. The tool isn't really what I'm describing, just that the speed is clearly boosted with a tool of any kind as opposed to handling modifications, given the way it props up after consistently normal speed behaviour prior to the grass and the Packer. By the way, I mixed up two of the play.tv links in my main post, but I've fixed them now :).
UPDATE: This is not to say that handling modifications couldn't have been used in conjunction with tools; I'm just saying I don't have any evidence to back that up. Artifex linked an incredible example of the behaviour I'm describing, which looking at it now, seems to validate everything I'm suggesting :lol:. Notice how Biel's coasting along normally, and suddenly gains a massive speed boost? That's exactly what's happening in his landing of this P2B, on a smaller scale.
Video Link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6jNXytWBAI
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Typical 3rd worldians, who are you trying to fool at this point. :lol:
PS. Go ahead Nem, remove my post again you modding fuck. :)
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@VaNilla While I still find some stunts in this video a bit hard to believe (the finisher in particular), your statement that PM's caligula sign landing is impossible with a single bump is simply incorrect. I tried it for about 15 minutes using the same runup as him and managed to edge it.
Replay here: https://www.sendspace.com/file/9bahx6
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I'm not sure I trust that attempt UDX, especially since you kept your wheelie up on the curb before the bump just like PM did; no RAD is faster at the very end. Benefit of the doubt though; I should really dive deep into this one too, but I'm honestly exhausted at this point and don't want to give any more time to this video.
UPDATE: I got a close single bump in two tries when I went to try it again, with the wheelie maintained too... what the fuck is wrong today :lol:. I was wrong about single bumping this for sure, my bad. I can't say I trust PM's execution though, given his other stunts. Going to bed, but honestly, I don't want to come back to this discussion anymore. https://www.sendspace.com/file/884m2u
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I'm not sure I trust that attempt UDX, especially since you kept your wheelie up on the curb before the bump just like PM did; no RAD is faster at the very end.
That might be true, I don't use a speedometer myself so can't test it. My intention was to replicate the way he did it.
Let's be honest here, I have absolutely nothing to gain from defending this stunt, apart from wanting the truth to come out. Why would I mod myself to try to prove that it's possible? I don't care about stunting anymore and I'm pretty much out of it, apart from wanting to land a few last stunts.
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Yeah, please read the updated part of the post.
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I find it hilarious how some posts get deleted while others aren't because they might be true. A bit of a coward move if you ask me but I wouldn't be surprised if this post also gets deleted. :euro:
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How does your post address my findings exactly? Was it all a mistake, that you were able to gain more speed on the bump than me, in a landing where your entire runup was worse, all the way up until the grass, where you magically gained a speed boost? Why exactly is your savegame any better, when all you need to do is place the Packer as far forwards as possible? Your response is to point out one stunt that everyone said was legit, including Art who requested the replay, and one which I got close to very easily when asked to provide an FL on replay, and received no accusations about since. You constantly direct attention elsewhere to take it away from yourself, and fail to respond to any genuine findings. How exactly did you edge the building on an attempt where you got a road bump and lost 11kmh? There are skilled stunters who failed to get close, and sure, they might not be as skilled as the very best, but you lost 11kmh, and still managed to edge it? That's an interesting situation, don't you think? :P
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The speed isn't a big factor? Sounds like you're the beginner here; I already have got close :lol:. UPDATE: Something about your explanation is confusing to me. You mention that you mustn't "ramp to packer without lose speed", but somehow, it's okay to lose 11kmh in the runup, because "the speed isn't a big factor". Not only that, but you also lost 5kmh when you hit the Packer in that attempt; so you actually did the exact thing you said not to do, and still got your closest live attempt out of it. Aren't you contradicting yourself, "beginner"? ;)
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You make a mistake, and get miles closer than highly experienced stunters who didn't necessarily make any mistakes. I have got close to your stunt (closer than any of those who told you they couldn't reach it), and analysed exactly how to do it. That's all I wish to say :ajaja:.
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Where is Ja Rule where you need him.
Someone get a hold of Rusch or Przem or Burn or whoever and let them try it with the goddamn savegame so we can settle it.
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Decided to fully test Biel's LV Fountain P2B, because I must admit, I trusted the SSU guys' bias too much, having only tried it a little myself. My findings show that the stunt may indeed be possible, but I can't confirm this for sure, having only got close. However, they also show that while Biel's live attempts may be legit (doesn't account for SACC, gravity, handling adjustments, etc), his landing in Unease was potentially modded.
Reading isn't your strong suit, I see. Nor stunting. You should be glad I try to prove myself wrong in these situations, and do my research, instead of making an opinion and sticking with it no matter what. Take Caligula for instance, I was wrong. Take this P2B, I trusted SSU members far too much and I knew it, so I tested it myself and got close. Yet somehow, I arrived at the same conclusions I made about you modding even after I tested your stunt.
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Where is Ja Rule where you need him.
Someone get a hold of Rusch or Przem or Burn or whoever and let them try it with the goddamn savegame so we can settle it.
Why them? Wait for the god, we are only humans. xD
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I admire those who are doing actual research by themselves to inspect for modding. What I despise is judgmental guys who 'think' the stunts are modded without doing the needed personal verification or reasoning with someone else's verification. So when I found out that MtS banned those 2 guys before the talk and replay checking had started, I thought is quite troubling.
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"I was wrong, stunt is possible but you're modder anyway, I'm only one who can land it, fuck you" That's it.
Thanks.
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"I was wrong, stunt is possible but you're modder anyway, I'm only one who can land it, fuck you" That's it.
Thanks.
that was pretty accurate
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Also my landing from how long i cant even remember. You dont even have to rad the whole runup, it may actually harden things up
https://youtu.be/4iBtUxu_QjQ
sry for double posting
and also, you dont even need to pop tires or anything.
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Video Link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILF5txZb-j0
Left replay = landing attempt. Right replay = edge attempt. For some reason, Biel's new replay is much faster than his landing; my attempt (and IceD's) was the same speed as his landing, which shows that his landing is the game's default replay speed. This could be related to two things; frame rate, slowitdown, or both. You can't rule slowitdown out, but since it can't be proven, you have to imagine there's a difference in frame rate causing this; I'm still curious as to why though. This try looks legit to me, replay speed aside, but it's hard to make any precise comparisons given the speed difference, so it's hard to say. Personally, I've felt that the spot is possible ever since I tried it myself, got close very quickly, and stopped listening to SSU members. I don't trust Biel though, for the reasons I listed with my previous video (none of which have been explained); not to mention a couple of his other stunts. Have fun guys, this is the last thing I want to provide to this conversation :).
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I don't know why SSU members are specifically mentioned all the time, to be honest.
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Those who convinced me they had tried it extensively and found it to be impossible were SSU members, and obviously, many of the most skilled SA stunters are SSU members; I'm not speaking against SSU by any other means :P.
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Keep the thread rollin'
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1:25 is the real bullshit why are ya'll arguing about the opener? its clean af.
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Full review: bLADE
Biel - P2B to police station: modded
PM - Ramp to electric tower: unmodded
Biel - Curbbump to ramp to silo: modded
Biel - Double grind with 360°: modded
PM - Verticalbump to grind with a cork: unmodded
Biel - Ramp to bump to roof: modded
PM - Bump to parking lot: unmodded
Biel - P2B to airport tower: modded
PM - Dumperbump to roof: unmodded
Biel - Drop to ledgegrind to grind with 360°: modded
PM - Smallbump to precision: unmodded
Biel - P2B to chimney: modded
PM - P2B to white roof: unmodded
Biel - Drop to curbbump to BB grind: modded
PM - P2B to wallride to casino: unmodded
hihi jk
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1:25 is the real bullshit why are ya'll arguing about the opener? its clean af.
haha no shit just looked at it again, it's the most obvious one. Just went full Nem.
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1:25 is the real bullshit why are ya'll arguing about the opener? its clean af.
haha no shit just looked at it again, it's the most obvious one. Just went full Nem.
at 1:27 he goes straight forward to the roof to bump like a missile. Gonna start calling him Rocket Man
whatever when burn and taz release their duo SA will be done so stop arguing
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this bullshit is passing as clean, im done with this community :lol:
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this bullshit is passing as clean, im done with this community :lol:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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so sad that ar is dead
.....aaaaand another dislike from mati hehe
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I didn't know we returned to 2008! God, I feel old.
The grinds were sick. I will not make any comments about legitimacy here, I didn't know how to properly spot this shit even when I was active, and I sure as hell don't intend to start now.
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And there we go again based on proofs and facts people can't be objective anymore. All I see here is biel having a shit pc and landing good stunts. It must be hard to accept that promagic turned out to be one of the best stunters. Hats off for nailing dat finisher. Good video keep it up
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Thanks for all the nice comments! :euro:
The other ones are not worth mentioning.
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Care to adress the 1:25 stunt?
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Had thought about doing this or not and well i did.
So to kinda take the defence here for the guys of the video and or anyone who gets accused of modding.
It is almost impossible to spot mods if the person who tries to mod knows what he is doing especially when it comes to sacc boosting, sure it can be spotted if it is done poorly.
here a little example for "boosts" as a normal habbit of the game aswell, the first isnt boosted with sacc and looks boosted but the 2nd is boosted and looks clean.
https://youtu.be/qn4APunLbrw
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I read like 10 theory about aliens, space, moon, JFK, men in black, pyramids, jews extermination..... everyday. but this topic is even more interesting, incredible guys, FoxMaster would be proud of y'all :cc_detective:
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I read like 10 theory about aliens, space, moon, JFK, men in black, pyramids, jews extermination..... everyday. but this topic is even more interesting, incredible guys, FoxMaster would be proud of y'all :cc_detective:
I lol'd :lol:
thats like getting roachpeach and tacojoe down here
I just don't get how can people still argue about modding after like what? 10 years?
The video itself was huge for me, it contained some crazy spots and some that looked impossible for me.
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This is AWESOME as fuck, and some of the stunts are incredible especially the FINISHER
:a-cheer: :a-cheer:
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Random bump, I just find it funny to see SS bitching about this video when we have intricate unsolved mysteries regarding him like for instance Oracion's freeway stunt for which I heard he never provided replay after being asked. All this conversation here now gets clear to me: some guys are simply gealous.
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Random bump, I just find it funny to see SS bitching about this video when we have intricate unsolved mysteries regarding him like for instance Oracion's freeway stunt for which I heard he never provided replay after being asked.
he sent me the replay in private and after trying the stunt myself i can confirm its most likely clean
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Random bump, I just find it funny to see SS bitching about this video when we have intricate unsolved mysteries regarding him like for instance Oracion's freeway stunt for which I heard he never provided replay after being asked. All this conversation here now gets clear to me: some guys are simply gealous.
True
Random bump, I just find it funny to see SS bitching about this video when we have intricate unsolved mysteries regarding him like for instance Oracion's freeway stunt for which I heard he never provided replay after being asked.
he sent me the replay in private and after trying the stunt myself i can confirm its most likely clean
Looking forward to see it landed by you
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Well it would be really nice if he shares the replay pubblicly so more people can verify it, especially those who have asked for it.
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Thanks for bumping, I appreciate you.
Biel's grind at 2:10 was fucking awesome, great style and a nice find in general!
Promagic's stunt right after that to the Caligula's prec was also super sick!
These are the 2 stunts that stood out to me and I liked them the most. Really cool finds!
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Not enough mods
I hope you find this as a joke kids