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GTA Series => Grand Theft Auto - Vice City => VC Chat & Support => Topic started by: Diaz on September 13, 2016, 02:22:14 PM

Title: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Diaz on September 13, 2016, 02:22:14 PM
Hey everyone who's into VC stunting, it's probably the first and also the last topic I open in the VC section, but this time I got curious.

I just started playing VC again because of the good story, the pleasant songs on the radio, so basically because Vice City is Vice City. I guess everyone knows about the pcj challenge 'mini mission' through the alley near the original safehouse. As a kid I always found that track too hard but now, after several years of stunting in SA and several hours of 'stunting' in VC, I beat the race in 59 seconds just for the second try. And I started to wonder how quick skilled VC stunters could beat the map... I would like some members to tell their record time, or preferably to record the run and show it here, I'd be curious to see who can get it the fastest way. I hope someone's up for this hard challenge  :D
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Blaze on September 13, 2016, 03:00:20 PM
The record for it is 44 seconds if I remember correctly, I think the best I've got on it was 49 maybe?
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Knapman on September 13, 2016, 03:04:32 PM
The one near the police station correct? I'll be sure to give it a shot when I get home.
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: KiTz on September 13, 2016, 03:26:26 PM
Anxiously waiting
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Diaz on September 13, 2016, 03:28:54 PM
The one near the police station correct? I'll be sure to give it a shot when I get home.
It's that indeed. Post results!
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Ltab- on September 13, 2016, 06:09:49 PM
I'm gonna give it a shot later for the lulz
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Knapman on September 13, 2016, 07:19:08 PM
Played for 15-20 minutes and got 49, can definitely do better

http://i.imgur.com/0lWwGHD.jpg

Tomorrow i'll give it another 20 and try and beat it as well as record a clip for ya
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: NEM on September 13, 2016, 11:05:35 PM
TURN UP THE RADIO  :mellow:
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: FrankInsanity on September 13, 2016, 11:33:39 PM
O:54

(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/114/139/tumblr_lgedv2Vtt21qf4x93o1_40020110725-22047-38imqt.jpg)
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Diaz on September 14, 2016, 08:54:50 AM
Knapman is officially leading the game! Thanks for everyone who tries it anyway :P
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Knapman on September 15, 2016, 12:34:44 AM
https://youtu.be/JwqKl9N-kPA

0:47, still seconds to be shaved off here and there
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: J.Mario on September 15, 2016, 12:40:20 AM
That neat... ;D
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Rainbow on September 15, 2016, 02:49:22 AM
Looked at some 44 second runs and then found this in the sidebar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3TuR5Nkg_c
Try again folks  :ninja:
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: AllBeast on September 15, 2016, 06:14:15 AM
my version, 46 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdJt7zxJ1HM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdJt7zxJ1HM)

some crazy japan kid maked 43 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2lxET2gcX4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2lxET2gcX4)
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Knapman on September 15, 2016, 06:28:56 AM
https://youtu.be/wJGuoDpB9GE

45
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Blaze on September 15, 2016, 06:34:20 AM
I'd love to see some GTAS guys attempt a VC speedrun, very repetitive but once you have the strategies/methods down I'd imagine years of stunting would help shave off a few seconds here and there :P
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Diaz on September 15, 2016, 06:36:41 AM
These are some really tight runs  :ninja: The 43s kid made the last few checkpoint incredibly well, and the jump over the truck, too. It's funny how he gets some of the cps (especially the one after the underground part) when he doesn't even go close to them  :lol:
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: FrankInsanity on September 15, 2016, 08:49:14 AM
 Ghostown OFF
 Car Vulnerable
 
 0:54 was my best, now I watch those runs and I got depressed as f%ck
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: FrankInsanity on September 15, 2016, 09:10:16 AM
Getting better :D

(http://i.imgur.com/hLcVwWq.png)
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Cooper on September 15, 2016, 01:06:25 PM
I made this once xD https://youtu.be/R3TuR5Nkg_c?t=24s
(0:46 seconds)

edit:
Looked at some 44 second runs and then found this in the sidebar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3TuR5Nkg_c
Try again folks  :ninja:
damn you xD
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Blaze on September 15, 2016, 01:17:27 PM
Ghostown OFF
 Car Vulnerable
 
 0:54 was my best, now I watch those runs and I got depressed as f%ck

Should be doing it with original SCM since Dannye's removes the cinematic camera from the few unique jumps in the run.
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Cooper on September 15, 2016, 01:23:39 PM
actually the mission itself removes the unique jump cameras
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Simon on September 15, 2016, 01:40:04 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/cea57319169616b1db776933ea215987.png)

I tried for the longest time to get 44 or 43, but no luck

E:
https://youtu.be/qvm50DNSaVg

Looking at it that last U turn probably fucked me over big time.
(If you don't do a mad spin/krail on the pallet jump u suk)
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Rainbow on September 15, 2016, 02:13:37 PM
You lost time compared to the 43 second run on that underground stair thing as well. The checkpoint going out is pretty easy to get so you can go on the other side of the pole for a quicker line  :ajaja:
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Simon on September 15, 2016, 02:37:40 PM
I noticed that after I got that one, tried re-doing it the right way but would always goof up somewhere. And after a certain amount of tries I just started fucking up more and more so I rage quit  :euro:
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Rainbow on September 15, 2016, 02:52:44 PM
I noticed that after I got that one, tried re-doing it the right way but would always goof up somewhere. And after a certain amount of tries I just started fucking up more and more so I rage quit  :euro:
Just got 46, but man I hate that jump over the truck.. it's so random and even when you finally go straight the landing makes you slide sideways. The rest of the route is super easy to do quickly every single time but I cannot for the life of me do the truck jump  <_<
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: ARS on September 15, 2016, 03:46:57 PM
So i should run with original scm or i can do it with dannye's? just want to try it too.. :happy:
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: FrankInsanity on September 15, 2016, 08:08:18 PM
So i should run with original scm or i can do it with dannye's? just want to try it too.. :happy:
Use Dannye's with Car Vulnerable and Ghost City OFF   :wub: Like Cooper said, in the challenge there are no cinematic views from unique stunts!  :mellow:

/e I'm uploading this Savegame that I use for this run
 1- Load
 2- Load Pos 1
 3- Press F to get off the bike and F to ride the bike so the challenge starts :P (Sometimes you load the Pos 1 and enhances the challange automatically)
 4- Load Pos 2 as soon as you see "PCJ Challangerino" (You skip the explanation)
 5- Do your Best, fucked up? Load savegame
 6- Repeat :P

https://www.sendspace.com/file/wopcvp
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Knapman on September 15, 2016, 08:08:24 PM
Dannye's scm is fine ^

and i'll try beating 45 tomorrow sometime, had a few runs 45 but no luck beating it, i can keep up easily until coming out of the underpass i lose a few seconds.

Why bother with car vulnerable off, wouldnt make a difference, correct me if I'm wrong though.


Quote
/e I'm uploading this Savegame that I use for this run
 1- Load
 2- Load Pos 1
 3- Press F to get off the bike and F to ride the bike so the challenge starts :P (Sometimes you load the Pos 1 and enhances the challange automatically)
 4- Load Pos 2 as soon as you see "PCJ Challangerino" (You skip the explanation)
 5- Do your Best, fucked up? Load savegame
 6- Repeat :P

Also, theres a quicker way for this,
Pos1= pcj start point
pos2= sanchez or something parked very close to pcj

start challenge by getting on pcj, do challange, mess up, spawn pos 1, get off pcj, on sanchez to fail mission, off sanchez, on pcj to start mission, as soon as you get on bike, accelerate, will skip intro, try challenge, rinse and repeat

youtube vid as example: https://youtu.be/Hx43JnBama0
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: FrankInsanity on September 15, 2016, 11:59:06 PM
Why bother with car vulnerable off, wouldnt make a difference, correct me if I'm wrong though.

 True, but to make seem more legit :P Idk doesn't matter
 I like more your Way Knap!
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Simon on September 16, 2016, 04:54:44 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/a60f52b3b13c9b43479c701e1e15efd5.png)

E:
(https://i.gyazo.com/bef0d365d81d4daf18765d18a0ecaabb.png)
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Blaze on September 16, 2016, 06:26:26 AM
42 next :cc_detective:
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Knapman on September 16, 2016, 06:43:27 AM
Ahhh man, this is gonna be alot of effort to try and beat 43......
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Simon on September 16, 2016, 06:52:54 AM
I honestly don't think I can improve it anymore  :lol: There's so little left to improve, and even if there was enough to improve to nudge it down to 42s, I don't think I'd have the patience to do it.

Here's the clip:
https://youtu.be/uuD35h-tjZ0
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Muhammad Farrukh on September 16, 2016, 07:04:35 AM
I honestly don't think I can improve it anymore  :lol: There's so little left to improve, and even if there was enough to improve to nudge it down to 42s, I don't think I'd have the patience to do it.

Here's the clip:
https://youtu.be/uuD35h-tjZ0
The Control of bike at 0:34 was supper impressive
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: jakuba on September 16, 2016, 07:22:48 AM
C'mon Simon, we're gtastunting.net, we gotta assert our dominance. You can do it. :a-cheer:
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Diaz on September 16, 2016, 10:54:52 AM
Seems like everyone is getting better at this, impressive runs! Simon's was really close to be perfect I'd say, but doesn't that suicidal krail make you lose some time? And c'mon guys, someone should get 43, the record must be done by a professional stunter!
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: dronec on September 16, 2016, 01:58:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSUzfv2zHDM will try again later.
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Rainbow on September 16, 2016, 02:10:44 PM
Simon you lost time in the last part  :ajaja: But sick run! Not as sick as fkcr's 42 though  :cheernutz:
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: jakuba on September 16, 2016, 03:23:28 PM
We won! ;D
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Simon on September 16, 2016, 05:19:04 PM
good fucking job  :mellow:
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: FrankInsanity on September 16, 2016, 09:37:53 PM
Holy Duck  ;D
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Max_ on September 16, 2016, 09:47:59 PM
All the years of stunting finally pay off :euro:
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: AllBeast on September 17, 2016, 02:36:12 PM
my friends Aliens maked this, not me

PCJ Playground 41 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_V4GYvYBaU&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_V4GYvYBaU&feature=youtu.be)

and they said if anyone of humans will make 40 seconds, they will come to his (her) home and fuck his (her) ass
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Blaze on September 17, 2016, 02:47:07 PM
 :| :| :|

god damn
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Max_ on September 17, 2016, 02:56:18 PM
holy moly, almost crashed here and there
what a run
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: dronec on September 17, 2016, 03:18:00 PM
What game was that NFS Most Wanted?I'm sure your friend is so much better than all of us he surely can do it with ingame audio and a proper copy of the game...also I'm pretty close in getting 41 myself and it looks absolutely nothing like the video you provided.
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: AllBeast on September 17, 2016, 03:22:53 PM
What game was that NFS Most Wanted?I'm sure your friend is so much better than all of us he surely can do it with ingame audio and a proper copy of the game...also I'm pretty close in getting 41 myself and it looks absolutely nothing like the video you provided.
lol,  my gta vc and lc and saivc haven't audio at all, when i stunt i just listen aimp or music at youtube
about proper copy of the game, all my repacks use many stunters and haven't any problems at all, i cut audio to make size smaller, because stunters doesn't need any audio from game to stunt

make 40 seconds and you will say hello to my friends
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: jakuba on September 17, 2016, 03:26:11 PM
For some reason I always thought you were from middle east Allbeast. :| Dope ride.
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: AllBeast on September 17, 2016, 03:29:20 PM
For some reason I always thought you were from middle east Allbeast. :| Dope ride.
i'm from Azerbaijan, it is Eastern Europe
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: jakuba on September 17, 2016, 03:42:20 PM
Do you use Russian in game? Or does your language use cyrillic?
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: AllBeast on September 17, 2016, 03:49:40 PM
Do you use Russian in game? Or does your language use cyrillic?
I use english and russian in the games, it is really doesn't matter, i know 3 languages: azerbaijan, russian and english, best of all i know russian language, also i know some words on japan, i liked playing japan games when i was kid, and i just remmeber words and also password on japan, the music which you listen at 41 second video was from one of my favorite games Captain Tsubasa 2 on NES (Famicom) (it was cover on one of the songs)
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Diaz on September 18, 2016, 01:35:48 AM
This went way too far  :lol: Fckr's was flawless indeed, but Allbeast came up with a totally different run. I also thought of making the first ramp without touching the roof, but never really tried. Will someone get 40?  :D
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Rainbow on September 18, 2016, 05:12:16 AM
but Allbeast came up with a totally different run
That was a friend of his. But the run itself was super sick! I'm sure 40 seconds is possible if I look at the two videos, but it's the absolute limit I guess.
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: AllBeast on September 18, 2016, 05:27:19 AM
but Allbeast came up with a totally different run
That was a friend of his. But the run itself was super sick! I'm sure 40 seconds is possible if I look at the two videos, but it's the absolute limit I guess.
lol, it was joke about alien friend, didn't think anyone will seriously think that i have alien friend

also i didn't know who the fuck is fckR anyway, and why he use another nickname at forum with 2 posts, maybe he has forever ban, like i had, anyway, i watched now his video DECERTO and was shocked a bit, very good and skilled stunter, i'm so sorry that i beat his record
also if someone have his skin - send to me, i wanted to show him what is proper copy of the game
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Rainbow on September 18, 2016, 05:41:46 AM
but Allbeast came up with a totally different run
That was a friend of his. But the run itself was super sick! I'm sure 40 seconds is possible if I look at the two videos, but it's the absolute limit I guess.
lol, it was joke about alien friend, didn't think anyone will seriously think that i have alien friend
You said it as if his nickname was 'Aliens'.
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: dronec on September 18, 2016, 05:45:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfxqwAm-gzc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfxqwAm-gzc)
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: AllBeast on September 18, 2016, 05:53:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfxqwAm-gzc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfxqwAm-gzc) will edit my post later.
cool, looks like you can do 40 seconds, you was near to do it
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Diaz on September 18, 2016, 02:09:13 PM
Cool one, you did that crucial ramp very well but the landing after the first upstairs jump was a bit time wasting, wasn't it? Anyway I think it's one more second off and that's the end of the game  :P I'm proud this one got such attention  :a-cheer:

Only waiting for SS to come up with a 30 something run.
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: VaNilla on September 19, 2016, 02:27:09 AM
Only waiting for SS to come up with a 30 something run.

Don't tempt me :ninja:, I would obsess over this :P.
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Simon on September 19, 2016, 04:18:16 AM
Only waiting for SS to come up with a 30 something run.

Don't tempt me :ninja:, I would obsess over this :P.
Don't you dare until you're done obsessing over that other thing.
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: VaNilla on September 19, 2016, 05:08:38 AM
Not going to :ninja:. However I analysed everyone's attempts frame by frame, and figured out the best way of doing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSb3nPLGgqQ

You should do the first ramp like fckR instead of AllBeast, because if you ramp all the way to the ground, you will always be facing left upon landing. By landing on the roof first, you don't lose any time until you hit the first checkpoint, and when you land back down on the ground, you can face perfectly towards the stairs ramp, so you don't lose any speed driving towards it. It's also much more consistent, so you won't fail as often. Even if you did angle yourself to the right by ramping all the way, turning to the right from the ramp would make you lose too much speed by comparison.

The only other point of contention is the final ramp, and I would suggest ramping all the way to the final checkpoint. It's definitely less consistent, but you do shave off enough time to make it worth it. To improve the time beyond 41 seconds, you simply have to do each technique shown here as quickly as possible :mellow:.
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Diaz on September 19, 2016, 05:18:42 AM
Thanks for the analysis SS, you never disappoints  :P Now waiting for someone the complete the 'perfect' run.
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: dronec on September 19, 2016, 06:21:15 AM
I allready deleted the game as I only installed it back to play this,and luckily I still had some clips in my fraps folder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwl3brYRr0M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwl3brYRr0M) using this yesterday I think once or twice I did the pallet jump with close to 1:44 as possible,as you can see its about a second faster.Goodluck to whoever tries this.I'm outta here.
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: VaNilla on September 19, 2016, 07:50:48 AM
Fixed the video with fckR's new roof technique. Had a look myself at different variations, longer runups, trying the course in reverse, and more, but I couldn't find any way of improving this. The only thing you could do is use a Packer to get the first checkpoint with a massive runup, but that would be lame :jajaja:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM_CScxCOIk

You can't drive through the building poles at the end of the alleyway without losing time, so that's out of the question, and the stability of slowing down after the shopping stairs doesn't save any time, so this is absolutely the best way of doing it.
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: FuriousStunting on September 19, 2016, 08:48:43 AM
they should add this to GTA V to be honest, would be fun.
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: ARS on September 19, 2016, 08:58:17 AM
Cool topic! Like to read what's going on here. :D
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Muhammad Farrukh on September 19, 2016, 08:52:06 PM
Cool topic! Like to read what's going on here. :D
Grab Some PopCorn too :jajaja:
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: AllBeast on September 19, 2016, 09:51:27 PM
Impossible 39 seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_-2xBV90cA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_-2xBV90cA)

Original Video

https://www.sendspace.com/file/jc6c3b
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Max_ on September 19, 2016, 11:36:52 PM
I wonder how many tries that second ramp took ya
Insane run once again gj!
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: VaNilla on September 20, 2016, 01:00:44 AM
Jesus christ ;D.
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: J.Mario on September 20, 2016, 01:40:33 AM
BEAST!!!!!!! ;D FUCKIN GREAT JOB!!!
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Rainbow on September 20, 2016, 02:40:03 AM
Well, this game is over  :rolleyes: Godlike run!
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: mehmet on September 20, 2016, 03:09:27 AM
cant really get any better than that... gj allbeast!!
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Simon on September 20, 2016, 03:30:19 AM
holy shit  :lol: I was toying with that second ramp idea, never thought it would actually work though  :ninja: good job man  :a-cheer:
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: FrankInsanity on September 20, 2016, 10:00:29 AM
I'm claping man! Congrats for the world record m8
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Cooper on September 20, 2016, 12:58:03 PM
holy shit, ps2 even
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Diaz on September 20, 2016, 01:25:18 PM
Quote from above: holy shit.. can't really express myself better, unbelievable run, I tried to watch yours and SS' 'optimal' run simultaneously and gotta say you managed to win some time somewhere in the alley, even if you were not faster with that imposs ramp usage at the third cp. Amazing run once again, I guess I can be satisfied enough by now and lock the topic  :lol:
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: AllBeast on September 20, 2016, 02:53:50 PM
Quote from above: holy shit.. can't really express myself better, unbelievable run, I tried to watch yours and SS' 'optimal' run simultaneously and gotta say you managed to win some time somewhere in the alley, even if you were not faster with that imposs ramp usage at the third cp. Amazing run once again, I guess I can be satisfied enough by now and lock the topic  :lol:
yes, you lose at third checkpoint, but then win at 5th, because you have more speed. with fckR way 39 second is impossible
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Blaze on September 20, 2016, 02:54:49 PM
soooooooo.......38? :cc_detective:
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: AllBeast on September 20, 2016, 03:01:59 PM
soooooooo.......38? :cc_detective:
not happen
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Blaze on September 20, 2016, 03:22:13 PM
In that case congratulations on having the world record for PCJ Playground :P
Title: Re: The well-known PCJ challenge
Post by: Urban Legend on September 27, 2016, 02:47:37 PM
What...the...fuck. amazing.
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