Author Topic: Tutorial: Matroska x264 Encoding 2.3  (Read 48719 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Daffy

  • V.I.P. Member
  • Posts: 13506
  • WH & NU Founder
    • View Profile
Tutorial: Matroska x264 Encoding 1.9
« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2007, 12:35:45 AM »
VLC and Windows Media Player if you install Haali Media Splitter.

Offline BoBsaget

  • Veteran Member
  • Posts: 2692
    • View Profile
    • http://www.bobsagetisgod.com/
Tutorial: Matroska x264 Encoding 1.9
« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2007, 12:44:41 AM »
Quote from: Daffy
EDIT: Just watched it now, outstanding quality... better than what you see in the best Counter Strike and Quake 3 movies, what bitrate did you use BoB'eh?

I think it was around 7000kbps, I don't know for sure though.. I wanted to keep it ''low'' so it wouldn't be 600 mb.

Offline brandon6199

  • V.I.P. Member
  • Posts: 4019
    • View Profile
Tutorial: Matroska x264 Encoding 1.9
« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2007, 01:28:02 AM »
By the way, you want to keep your quants under 20

It says so in the log, daffy taught me well

oh and also, if you are getting lag spikes, it might not be the video, its probably your computer that cant keep up with going from 0 to 5000 kbps in under a second that causes the lag. There's this one program that daffy knows whats it called but it prevents that from happenining. Haali media splitter right?

EDIT: daffy can i upload that linkin park sample to show them what a non-stunt video .mkv looks like?
« Last Edit: September 14, 2007, 01:30:53 AM by brandon6199 »

Offline BoBsaget

  • Veteran Member
  • Posts: 2692
    • View Profile
    • http://www.bobsagetisgod.com/
Tutorial: Matroska x264 Encoding 1.9
« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2007, 01:39:18 AM »
Okay, I was trying to keep my quants under 20.. But that just didn't happen lol. And I didn't want to render it again, cause 7000kbps should have been more then enough to me... Or whats the reason mine is around 25, how can I get it lower?
« Last Edit: September 14, 2007, 01:39:47 AM by BoBsaget »

Offline brandon6199

  • V.I.P. Member
  • Posts: 4019
    • View Profile
Tutorial: Matroska x264 Encoding 1.9
« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2007, 01:47:22 AM »
more kbps = less quants

daffy showed me a trick a while ago on how to have less kbps and still keep the quants low, something about removing a few lines in the .avs, we'll just have to wait till he gets on
« Last Edit: September 14, 2007, 01:48:04 AM by brandon6199 »

Offline Daffy

  • V.I.P. Member
  • Posts: 13506
  • WH & NU Founder
    • View Profile
Tutorial: Matroska x264 Encoding 1.9
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2007, 02:57:31 AM »
Between 15-20 is good for low motion movies, 20-25 is good for high-motion movies as you don't get much details when there's high motion due to motion blur and when there's low motions the quants will be around 15 anyway.
The higher bitrate, the lower quants but the higher bitrate, the more resources it requires to play properly.
You just gotta find a good natural balance.
When there's low motion it uses so-called reference frames meaning it grabs the pixel information from the previous frames since it's many of the same pixels at the same place.
And of course black and white movies requires less bitrate since there's a lot of colors that won't be shown.
You should keep that in mind when you're encoding, so if you have very smooth camera movement or not much at all you can lower the bitrate and increase the number of reference frames.

Offline Souzuk

  • Veteran Member
  • Posts: 4116
    • View Profile
Tutorial: Matroska x264 Encoding 1.9
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2007, 08:08:06 AM »
wow, Daffy is the best editor and the best man to find new rendering tools  

GREAT !  

Offline VaNilla

  • next week m9
  • Veteran Member
  • Posts: 3805
    • View Profile
    • YouTube
Tutorial: Matroska x264 Encoding 1.9
« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2007, 07:16:14 PM »
Hmm, for me MeGUI says this when I select my AVS file.

Any idea what I can do?

Offline Daffy

  • V.I.P. Member
  • Posts: 13506
  • WH & NU Founder
    • View Profile
Tutorial: Matroska x264 Encoding 1.9
« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2007, 10:09:09 PM »
Re-install AviSynth 2.5.7

Offline VaNilla

  • next week m9
  • Veteran Member
  • Posts: 3805
    • View Profile
    • YouTube
Tutorial: Matroska x264 Encoding 1.9
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2007, 01:54:42 AM »
Still got the problem , any other suggestions?

Offline Torque

  • Veteran Member
  • Posts: 12959
    • View Profile
Tutorial: Matroska x264 Encoding 1.9
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2007, 09:41:22 PM »
Ok, one final question.

If I render a lets say, 5 min vid at 1028 x 768 compared to 800 x 600, how much would the file sizes vary.

Offline brandon6199

  • V.I.P. Member
  • Posts: 4019
    • View Profile
Tutorial: Matroska x264 Encoding 1.9
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2007, 09:45:44 PM »
1028x768? do you mean 1280x768?

Id say about 50MB, but your gonna scale down the bitrate for the 800x600 one anyways, so it depends what bitrate you set it at
« Last Edit: September 16, 2007, 09:47:18 PM by brandon6199 »

Offline BoBsaget

  • Veteran Member
  • Posts: 2692
    • View Profile
    • http://www.bobsagetisgod.com/
Tutorial: Matroska x264 Encoding 1.9
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2007, 01:07:46 AM »
The sizing would be normal with normal bitrates, when you take 1mb bitrate it could be compaired to a normal 1mb .wmv render, probably bigger though.. But because this file type/codec is for quality rendering, you take high bitrates, like I chose 7mb, which will give you a much bigger file size. So it's up to you to see how big it's going to be. Also when you put in the bitrate, you can see the expected file size in the square below.

Offline brandon6199

  • V.I.P. Member
  • Posts: 4019
    • View Profile
Tutorial: Matroska x264 Encoding 1.9
« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2007, 01:08:49 AM »
Yeah, i use around 6000-7000 kbps just cause I can

And to get lower quants

Offline boxXx

  • Veteran Member
  • Posts: 4692
    • View Profile
Tutorial: Matroska x264 Encoding 1.9
« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2007, 06:00:43 AM »
WTF i cant even get past the MeGUI part i dont understand a fuck of this at all :S

can you please add screens daffy ?

 

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2024, SimplePortal